Credit Not What It Used To Be
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Criteria has changed in this economy
Posted: 9:26 PM Oct 3, 2008
Last Updated: 10:16 PM Oct 3, 2008
Reporter: Jodi Baker
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Much of what we buy is done with plastic. Whether we can get credit and the amount of interest we pay on it, comes down to our credit scores. But in this economy, the way we're graded has changed.

Credit is a big issue in this country. "It is the American dream to have the home and the extra things that you love to have," says mother of three Amanda Folks. "Really, that American dream that we speak of isn't very attainable without that credit."

She’s right and all that we buy with credit cards and bank loans, from appliances to cars and homes, often comes down to one number, a FICO score. It ranges from 300 to 850. A score 720 and up is typically considered good.

Now the consumer group Take Charge America says 760 is the magic number. Local businessmen who gathered at Brite Ideas Decorating at 38th and Farnam Friday to talk about the economy say it's not that simple.

“Anything over 720 is still an excellent credit score, but what we've started to see is more and more credit that maybe is unused, that is affecting people's credit scores," says United Republican Bank president and CEO Mike Pate.

Pate says having too much revolving credit or too many open accounts, even if they've got zero balances, makes us look risky to lenders. "So the best thing to do is tear up the credit cards, close the accounts, that'll improve your credit score."

Pate adds that in the Midwest where spending has been more conservative than in other parts of the country, getting credit for things like cars shouldn't be a problem.

"(It’s) not the access to credit, but how much credit and that's probably the one thing that we've seen changed a little bit," says Steve Hinchcliff, president and CEO of H & H Chevrolet.

Hinchcliff says zero money down offers are few and far between these days and that our credit score isn't all that counts. Lenders are looking at the bigger picture. "Things like time on job, time in grade at job, things like who you know, what your references are."

Folks says the state of the economy may serve as a wake-up call. "I think that in the long run, it pays to be consistent in what you do and to certainly spend what you earn and not over."

Lenders say you should stay on top of your credit rating. You can get a free report on your credit every 12 months at annualfreecreditreport.com.

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Posted by: A on Oct 6, 2008 at 09:28 PM
Hello there Lori, glad to hear you're so perfect. I'm even more glad to hear that you are finding some discomfort in this entire situation. You need something to drop you down a bit from that self absorbed five bedroom home you are so comfortable in.

Posted by: ANON on Oct 5, 2008 at 02:20 PM
We all live in a "buy now pay later" world. Those of us who don't have to have it all still suffer. I don't feel sorry for those people out there that make 50k a year that drive 3-4 20k to 30k vehicles and live in 250k - 750k homes. You brought it on yourselves and we all have to pay for it. Thanks! Thanks alot!

Posted by: Lori on Oct 5, 2008 at 03:13 AM
Um, MY FICO score is 858. And my husbands is 793. Chris is right, why should I work at having great credit if people that are "below the bar" get loans and default on them which created this mess in the FIRST place!?

Posted by: chris on Oct 4, 2008 at 07:02 PM
Well all I can say is bleh. I was taught as I was growing up, " if you can't or dont have the money for it you don't need it " Well I have worked my behind off to try to get a good credit rating, And for what to have them raise the bar again. Not all people that have lower than 700 FICA score are " deadbeats " as somone in a earlier post said. It is a re-occuring circle, I don'thave credit, Or i don't have enough credit. Sadly you have to have credit for alot of things that mean somthing, IE: houses/Cars. I know people who have filed chapter 13, with 10k and over, had it finalized and then get 4-10 CC's shoved into their face with out a problem, But if I pay with cash for items at dept stores/gas stations/car lots, I am penalized with a low credit score. Since I have no credit or Low Credit, I do not qualify, And I work my tail off for the things I have. So it makes it harder for people like me to get the nice things in life.. like credit. Raising the bar higher isn't right.

Posted by: Sally H. on Oct 4, 2008 at 04:45 PM
To Oh Really: I have been in the mortgage lending environment for the last 10 years, and have only seen 2 credit reports with scores above an 800. Both borrowers had a long credit history (> 25 years). Do really know what type of history you have to have to have an 800 or above??? 800 scores are not attainable overnight. Maybe you should have done your homework before assuming so much! Or maybe you are one of those living outside your means.

Posted by: Steve on Oct 4, 2008 at 04:17 PM
I do this for a living. Credit score determines the rate tier, nothing more. Debt/income ratio, payment to income, time in residence, time on job, repayment history determines approval. A 720 score will get you best rate, but if your over-extended you may not be approved.

Posted by: Keith on Oct 4, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Oh Really, I suppose all of those parents with huge medical bills from a sick child are either unwilling to live within their means or deadbeats. My insurance company dumped me after one child was injured, and credit companies have no compassion for my situation. They want blood from a stone, but milk for my children comes first. You sound as critical as they. Please research a topic before you spout of with your misguided opinions.

Posted by: Chuck on Oct 4, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Whatever happened to delayed gratification, maybe people should only buy what they can afford and need, not always buy what they want. We as consumers need to think about our purchases a little more than what we do. Then maybe we wouldn't have this propblem with mortgages and credit cards in this country like we do. Educate yourselves people. That's the bottom line.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 4, 2008 at 10:27 AM
The real problem with the credit system is the companies that make up these bogus scores, I know 2 people that went bankrupt that had excellent scores and i know dozens that have low to mid sixes that are debt free and living the dream! the thought of judging someone by a number is absurd to say the least, baks, lenders and credit score people are all extorting the nation, just borrow for your house and live on what you make, you will be fine, and happy.........as we are

Posted by: Give me a break on Oct 4, 2008 at 07:08 AM
yeah oh really you are rude and maybe people aren't deadbeats maybe they lost their job, have cancer or whatever maybe you are a judgemental deadbeat. Get a grip!

Posted by: Kim on Oct 4, 2008 at 06:20 AM
To Oh Really: Good for you for being able to have almost perfect credit but just because someone has a credit score below 720 does not make them a deadbeat or mean the are "unwilling to live within their means". Some of the loans that we "deadbeats" have happen to be school loans that are very diffucult to pay back when you have a child and husband to feed. You can only forbear a school loan set number of times before you have to start paying it back. So I guess by your definition I'm a deadbeat because I provide for my family first before I pay for the loan.

Posted by: To Fred on Oct 4, 2008 at 04:51 AM
You are part of the reason that the economy is in the shape it is now. You are a deadbeat. Glad you are proud of yourself for something because you apparently don't have any self respect.

Posted by: to fred on Oct 4, 2008 at 03:06 AM
245? I'm not sure the FICO scale goes that low - 300 is the minimum.

Posted by: excuse me... on Oct 4, 2008 at 02:26 AM
Oh Really... Glad you are rich. Proud of ya. We should all strive to be as cool as you.

Posted by: OmahaAnnie on Oct 4, 2008 at 02:21 AM
720- that is why we got into this mess. If you can't afford to pay cash for something today what makes you think you will be able to pay the bill when it comes in next month.

Posted by: John on Oct 4, 2008 at 01:55 AM
If your score is that low there is nobody to blame but yourself, this economy has nothing to do with your score, you're a worthless deadbeat in any economy. Please, light up the pipe again while professing your innocence to the public. Any one that even attempts to pay their debts has a score of around 400, please include a detailed description of your planned suicide so all America doesn't waste our money bailing you out too.

Posted by: fred on Oct 4, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Dang my credit score is 245 guess Im a deadbeat Im glad your doing so good in this economy there oh really

Posted by: Oh Really on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:33 PM
720 is not an excellent score! It's not bad, but it's by no means excellent. I wouldn't consider anything much below 800 to be excellent. For people with an 800 FICO and a great income/expense ratio, low-interest loans are easy as pie to get. Credit is only tighter for the overextended that are unwilling to live within their means, and for slow-pay/no-pay deadbeats.

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