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  • Apartment Dwellers Grilled About Cooking Out Save Email Print
    City ordinance difficult to enforce
    Posted: 5:52 PM May 20, 2008
    Last Updated: 9:15 PM May 20, 2008
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    With the warm weather, a lot of Omaha residents are breaking the law and don't realize it. Fire investigators say there are a lot of misconceptions about outdoor grills and apartments.

    These laws apply to multi-family dwellings, apartment buildings, condos and town homes, almost anytime there are three or more dwellings in one building.

    One part of the law in Omaha is if you have a charcoal or gas grill, it must be 10 feet away from the building to use it and store it. As you might imagine, that rules out most balconies.

    Taking a drive past The Heights apartment complex at 120th and West Dodge, it's not hard to see gas grills on dozens of balconies. Resident Lois Hoover doesn't have a grill and now wonders about the danger posed by those who do.

    "I suppose if I think about it, yes, I would think it should be a concern of everyone’s."

    Enough of a concern for The Heights management to at the very least, put out notice. "They just put out little fly sheets and they put 'em in each door so everyone has them,” says Hoover. “Mine was taped to my front door."

    Still, balcony after balcony shows a complete disregard by some residents for the city ordinance banning charcoal and gas grills on apartment balconies.

    “I know it's an inconvenience for people and it's probably a disappointment to a lot of them, but also when you're endangering a whole group of people you have to sometimes change your habits," says Hoover.

    We found other apartment balconies around Omaha with illegal grills. It's a law the Omaha Fire Department hopes to get some help enforcing.

    "It's a difficult one to enforce," says Omaha Assistant Fire Marshal Daryl Giles. "To get to each tenant, we are directing our enforcement to the management and expect the management to address the enforcement with all their tenants."

    A grill law enforced by a misdemeanor, possibly turning a cookout into a blowout. "That's not our intent to ruin anybody's fun, but I think the message needs to be put out and warn people that it is a hazard and our intent is to protect life and property," says Giles.

    In Omaha, the law allows you to use a propane grill on your apartment balcony if the tank is one pound or less. If you want to grill on your apartment balcony, best bet is to get an electric grill. Those are always allowed.

    Other cities also have ordinances concerning grills and apartments. La Vista and Council Bluffs are the same as Omaha, no gas or charcoal grills unless they are stored and used at least 10 feet away. Electric ones are okay on balconies.

    Bellevue and Papillion allow electric and gas grills, but not charcoal ones.

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    Posted by: GR Location: omaha on May 22, 2008 at 08:33 PM
    Apartment living, has it's drawbacks. It's better than being a LIABILITY to your landlord and other tenants if YOUR grill burns the place down. Renter's insurance does NOT cover damage cased to OTHER people property. $$$

    Posted by: Samantha Location: Omaha on May 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM
    If my children were playing on a balcony I would be aware of what was going on around them and ask them to come in if somebody was grilling. Problem solved-grilling is a way to prepare food- most people are responsilbe. I have workied in the apartment industry for 12 years and I have never heard of somebody dropping embers etc on the balcony below- that is just silly.

    Posted by: Bob Location: Elkhorn on May 22, 2008 at 08:03 AM
    I am telling y'all, the smoker is the way to go. I live on the second floor of a three floor apartment. Smoker's are much safer and the people above me just love that sweet smell of the cherry and apple woods I use to smoke my meat. Take care now.

    Posted by: What's next that I can't use my stove! Location: Omaha??maybe on May 21, 2008 at 08:34 PM
    I live just outside the Omaha city limits. No on has told me that I can't use my grill until now. This is crap... I understand that grills can cause fires-- but so can kitchen stoves... so what is the OFD going to do next... tell us that we can only us a microwave. My apartments also are equiped with a sprinkler system and my landlord requires us to show proof of renter's insurance-- so based on that.. I think I am entitled to use my grill--

    Posted by: Bob Location: SW Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 04:41 PM
    One fire is one too many!!!!!

    Posted by: Dale Location: Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 03:21 PM
    True Jeff. But I have the right to be stupid and burn down my own house. I don't have the right to put 100 people out of a place to live. Also I have a thermometr on my deck at my apartment and some days it is over 150 degrees on my deck because of the siding retaing the heat. That is not safe even for a propane tank to be subjected to for several hours at a time.

    Posted by: GAry Location: Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 03:07 PM
    Go invest in a electric Charbroil Patio Grill. They are amazing,easy to clean,cook great. There a little small bur are good for apartment dwellers. They have them at Home Depot for around 150.00

    Posted by: Jeff Location: Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 02:57 PM
    At my apartment complex they went to each apartment violating the law and confiscated the grills.

    Posted by: RM Location: Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 02:10 PM
    I can see the charcoal grills but not a small propane grill being a problem. House fires have beem caused by grills and fireplaces but there are no restrictions on them.

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: Bellevue on May 21, 2008 at 02:05 PM
    Samantha most apartment balconies are situated above the living areas of other balconies/patios depending upon one's floor. When grilling there is the risk of wayward embers etc that can land upon the people below, it's not fair that the people living in the apartment below (or their children for that matter) should have to worry about getting hurt just because someone wants to "grill out". This warning is not just for fires started by grills on apt balconies there are other dangers.

    Posted by: Hank from La Vista Location: La Vista on May 21, 2008 at 10:59 AM
    Better go out and get the George Foreman.

    Posted by: Bob Location: Elkhorn on May 21, 2008 at 10:52 AM
    I would get around it by putting a smoker on your deck instead of a grill. There is nothing more tasty the a nice smoked briskett or pulled pork. Good luck and good eats.

    Posted by: DB on May 21, 2008 at 10:49 AM
    My grandmother used to tell a joke: "Back in my home country, when people would cook food outside using an open flame, we called that poverty!"

    Posted by: Samanatha Location: Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 10:22 AM
    Exactly how many apartment fires has there been due to gas grills on balconies. In the last 5 years? the last 10 years? Did the apartment complex have a sprinkler system? The Fire Marshall does not even know the answer to this question. I think there should be some sort of statistic backing up this so called danger.

    Posted by: James Location: Bellevue on May 21, 2008 at 10:01 AM
    To those that invoke "common sense" , sorry the law is the law. Landlord enforcement will be worse if he has a police visit about balcony grills. so, to avoid landlord wrath because he's being hauled down on, don't have a grill on a balcony. You're sharing a building with other people and there are rules to follow. once again you've shown no common sense so , No pity, no sympathy, you're a law-breaker.

    Posted by: Dave Location: Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 09:41 AM
    If you own a house YOU MUST carry insurance,its the LAW. So you have insurance to pay if your grill burns down the houses arfound you. I honestly believe the stae should require every owner,renter,squatter,whomever havbe insurance on the dwelling the reside in. Or make it mandatory for the Leasing Company to get it for everybody and make it a part of the rent you pay.

    Posted by: Justin Location: omaha on May 21, 2008 at 09:20 AM
    thing is, if you are a homeowner and burn down your house as a result of carelessness with a grill, then it only affects the homeowner and family. In an apartment complex, 1 accident can literally affect dozens of other families, so I can see why this law is in place. Just be careful...unfortunately, some who grill also like to get a little tipsy while thier at it...

    Posted by: Richard Location: Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 09:14 AM
    What a joke!! I wont allow the city to bann me from grilling outdoors. This is soo dumb. What about the idiots that leave there candles burning or stoves on that also can cause a fire!!? we dont do anything about that but grilling, OH MY, better bann that!! Unless your a complete idiot that never cooked b4, its about impossible to cause a uncontrolled fire with a grill. Why doesnt the city put there time into something more hazerdous, like old people driving or solving some crime.

    Posted by: Greg Location: Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 08:46 AM
    Why does everyone say well I didn't know that? It has been a law for quite some time. I am sure that we will get a follow up story about some "victim" that don't know why they are taking their grill away. Get serious. You don't have any right to own a grill on a property that you don't own. If the law says you can't have it and you can't see the reason for the law then check yourself into a clinic! You are the one who CHOSE to move into an appartment. I am sure someone will respond with, " Where else am I going to Live?" There are plenty of houses for rent or for sale. And if you can't afford that, stay at home in Mommy's basement and she will grill your steak for you! Get serious Omaha.

    Posted by: Jennifer Location: Council Bluffs on May 21, 2008 at 12:56 AM
    Just look at the house *oh wait it's not there anymore* that was on 24th *or 23* and Ave A in Council Bluffs. They had a grill going and went inside for only a min or less, well I was on the corner watching the roof cave in and the cars catch on fire while firefighters battled to put the flames out. Even houses, not just apartments need to be carefull

    Posted by: Brad Location: Omaha on May 20, 2008 at 11:38 PM
    The apartment complex at 74th and Blondo has built in gas grills on all the balconies. True- they CAN be dangerous, but so can they be in a private home. I think people just need to use common sense. It is sad that the city bans them at apartment complexes, but then again, people don't always use good judgement.

    Posted by: Greg Location: Omaha on May 20, 2008 at 10:29 PM
    Ok so what is going to happen to us. Is the fire department going to come to our apartments and give us a ticket and then show up in court or do the police give the ticket. Everything is so vague here and every year they do the same thing.

    Posted by: Laura Location: Omaha on May 20, 2008 at 10:00 PM
    All I can say is darrr. I knew that, its very logical. Why risk the whole apartment going up in flames for a damn steak...dont get it.

    Posted by: john Location: Omaha on May 20, 2008 at 09:46 PM
    If the city wants to enforce this, then it should apply to every dwelling with a grill on a wood deck, not just apartments & condo's

    Posted by: Griller Location: papillion on May 20, 2008 at 09:32 PM
    Maybe if the apartment complexes could provide a space to grill, it would be safer. Some do, many do not. Of course I feel the same way about storm shelters. Yes, I live in an apartment.

    Posted by: shanon Location: omaha on May 20, 2008 at 09:24 PM
    I live right by there and never have I heard that the gas grills had to be 10 feet away. There is suppost to be no charcoal grills however and I think thats just a duhh makes sence thing as you cant control it like a gas grill. I have personally scene more fire department personal respond to indoor mishaps as apposed to outside since I have lived where I live and that is almost 10 years.You are also responsible if anything happens to the balcony etc, as of damages. I do not trust anyone in the kitchen at the end of the night and that even includes my husband my neighbor above me, my neighbors teen daughter above me, the college kids right around the corner from me , and the elderly lady across the hall. All in all thats one of the reasons that everyone needs renters insurance.

    Posted by: Voice of reason Location: omaha on May 20, 2008 at 08:51 PM
    Check out the fire damage to Beacon Hill Apartments, just a little NW of 90th and Maple. I understand it was a grill that starte that fire. Drive up that hill - it gives you chills.

    Posted by: J Location: Omaha on May 20, 2008 at 06:52 PM
    My cousin melted the vinyl siding outside his apartment by accidentally getting the grill to close. BE CAREFUL!

    Posted by: Tom Location: Omaha on May 20, 2008 at 06:35 PM
    It would be nice if you give the tenants some time to figure out a place to store their grills. Since when has this been the law? If it has been the law for a while it sure seems not many knew of it. Who owns a propane tanks that weighs less than a pound?

    Posted by: Laura Location: Council Bluffs on May 20, 2008 at 06:27 PM
    Geez. I had a charcoal grill for years before this happened. And I never started one fire. I miss those steaks. But I guess that's the lot you draw for living in apartments.........

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