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  • Mother, Son And Psychosis Save Email Print
    "...the disease had taken over"
    Posted: 10:14 PM May 18, 2008
    Last Updated: 11:31 AM May 19, 2008
    Email Address: sixonline@wowt.com

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    "I knew he'd be back to do me harm. This went on all night, I kept looking at the clock petrified ‘til about 7." An Omaha woman knew her attacker very well. It was her son.

    She knew something was going wrong when her son started reciting Bible verses at age 19 and claiming he was God. One night, he jumped from a billboard.

    Then his mother's doorbell rang. When she answered it her son was there, but his mind was gone.

    At 26 years old, John is living an existence no one understands, not even his mother. "It's hard to think somebody you love would put hurt to you." It's the world of psychosis. Channel 6 News is protecting her identity because she's invited us into a world that, for her, is still very volatile.

    Just over a week ago, she opened her front door and found her son in a full-blown manic episode. "I was fearful of him. I knew that it wasn't the son that I knew. It was the disease had taken over."

    John came inside and turned off all the lights. For nearly two hours, the mother and son sat in the dark in silence. Inside John's head, police were watching and listening.

    "It's awful sitting in the dark wondering whether your son's going to harm you.” At some point, John forced her to lie to down. "He said just go to sleep and dream of heaven and I thought, oh my God, he's going to do me in before he goes. So I asked him, are you thinking of hurting me? And he said, no, I am going to take care of you tonight and I thought oh my God.”

    As the night wore on, mom drifted in and out of sleep. Every time she woke up, he was there staring at her in the dark. When he finally left, John told her not to leave the bed. "I said, I'll have to go to the bathroom, (and he said) you pee where you are."

    Eight hours and mom finally left thinking dying would be better. That night John tried to take his own life. He took his mother's car and drove it into a ditch where police found him unconscious. He was wanted on some outstanding traffic violations.

    He is now in custody, waiting on the outcome of an emergency petition to require the state to keep him in custody until he's on his medication.

    What can be done to prevent this from happening? The family says when he is medicated he is fine. The problem is the drugs make those who take them feel badly, so they often get off them thinking they don't need them. That's when incidents happen.

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    Posted by: Marie Location: Omaha on May 21, 2008 at 09:31 AM
    So much ignorance. Absolutely, mental illness can strike anyone, anytime, anywhere. None of us knows for sure whether we (our families) are immune to it. I have a daughter with Asperger's Syndrome and possible BiPolar as well. She would go through episodes of huge, violent tantrums. She would hit me, throw things, break things, pull out her own hair, put holes in the walls. I was told that she too, was just a spoiled brat. It took years of therapy, psychiatrists and various drugs to get her diagnosed. I have almost had to commit her as well, and she is just barely a teen now. It was a constant uphill battle and many times I felt like giving up, started to believe I was just a bad mom, spoiling my daughter. Believe me, that is so far from the truth. I was told that lots of people with mental illness, become drug addicts and alcoholics to try to deal with their illnesses. This is not the cause of them. God Bless all of you who understand and deal with this in your lives.

    Posted by: to steve--- on May 20, 2008 at 10:39 PM
    excuuuusssee me--my ex is young-in his middle 50's and is nowhere near the end of alzheimers. Actually the disease he has is called Picks which is the version of alzheimers that hits people in the middle 40's and 50's. It is much more virilent(sp) than the slower progressing later stage alzheimers. The point is though that mental illness can strike any family at any time for a myriad of reasons. I hope for any one in your family never suffers from any type of mental illness--you would be the type to completely disown them or totally deny anything is wrong and never get them help.

    Posted by: Krissy on May 20, 2008 at 04:06 PM
    prayers out ot hte family. this can happen in anyone's family. its called mental illness. it can be ur grandson or daughter. Jimmy, no meth for him. he has been that way for years. Steve, if its a 1.0-1.6% i guess i know most of those 1.6% here in omaha then.Joe U, what is wrong with u. u dont kno this family! he has mental problems doesnt mean he was spoiled and cant live by himself. he could of killed her, not a 26 year old living in her basement. u need to grow up. prays to the family

    Posted by: John Location: Omaha on May 20, 2008 at 03:18 PM
    The woman should have been told about the various programs for people with mental illnesses and their families. NAMI Nebraska offers the Family to Family course free of charge to families in this position that teaches them how to deal with this and the hope for recovery. They also offer a program for people with MI, also free that helps them understand what they are experiencing. For further information, call 402-345-8101 or go to http://www.nami.org

    Posted by: Joy W Location: Douglas County on May 19, 2008 at 11:37 PM
    My heart goes out to the mother. This story rings a familiar bell in my mind, as I have a brother who, like John, was (finally) diagnosed with a severe mental illness at the age of 26. From the description, it sounds more like a schizophrenic-type disorder as opposed to bipolar disorder, and definitely a deep seeded psychosis. I wish I had a way to contact this mother and put her in contact with my mother, as well as the rest of my family, as a way to help her deal with the difficulties she is undoubtedly going to endure with this illness. Yes, it CAN happen to anyone and any family. It's NOT a result of being "spoiled." As a side note, after consulting a former professor of mine, I learned that psychotic disorders (in males) typically manifest between the ages of 18-30, most commonly in the mid-20's. It's a shame that there are so many undereducated, judgmental people that don't bother to think before they react.

    Posted by: Mary O. Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 07:44 PM
    Joe U: Send your drafts to a publisher if you want to be a writer of fiction. It is very insensitive and offensive to families and friends of mentally ill persons to read such comments. I suggest you do some research on mental illnesses. You might learn something.

    Posted by: R on May 19, 2008 at 07:33 PM
    This is just so sad because there are very good organizations out there to help people. People who are ill & their families. There is also an event every year called "Breaking the Silence" of mental illness, helping to break the stima associated with mental illness. Most people are a danger to themselves NOT others. You can ALWAYS file a Board of Mental Health (commitment) but unless they are a danger, nothing will be done, but at least you can TRY. WAKE UP PEOPLE, this will NOT go away, be a part of the solution, not the problem! To quote Jarbeau "Most of us simply turn our back on the mentally ill and hope they will go away. Eventually they do." THAT is the problem! Quit turning your back and HELP!!

    Posted by: max Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 07:08 PM
    Go to www.beforetheyfall.com. This what happened to My Friends family. A good documentary He and News reporter made.

    Posted by: s. omaha on May 19, 2008 at 06:52 PM
    my husband has very similar episodes, including believing people are after him/poisoning him and we have had no luck in getting any treatment for him. He refuses to have an exam/eval and unless he is deemed a threat to himself or others, he cannot be committed. You can't be deemed a threat unless there is an eval, so what can you do?

    Posted by: Lisa Location: Papillion on May 19, 2008 at 06:50 PM
    Mental illness knows no racial,ethnic, or economic boundaries. It's stories like John's mothers, that help break the stereotypes and encourage people to seek help.

    Posted by: J Location: Bennington on May 19, 2008 at 04:48 PM
    Thank you to WOWT for airing this story. Prayers and strength to John's mom. The gov't shut down the means to lock up these people under the Reagan administration, and my mother has been living with the exact, and I mean exact, same kind of hell that John's mom has been living with ever since then. There are organizations that will help counsel the family: Al-Anon, Narc-Anon are 2, since bi-polar people who refuse to take meds rarely are clean and sober. If anyone else knows other organizations that will help for free, please advise. That being said, the family members do have to take advantage of the counseling and recognize that they are NOT responsible for their adult children's lives/outcomes. There is a line between helping and enabling. Counseling will help determine where that line is. It differs from individual to individual.

    Posted by: Kris Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 04:29 PM
    Hearing stories like this and then reading ignorant comments like some of these inferiorate me. It can and will happen to anyone without notice. My dad was bipolar and it wasnt diagnoised until it was too late, he committed suicide when I was 15. 3 weeks before his death, he went into severe pychosis to the point I didnt know it was my dad anymore. He also thought police were after him and would sit there talking to himself. Keep in mind, he had faught mild depression his whole life but never anything like that before. My mom tried hard to get him help but in the state of NE, you need 2 "next of kin" of legal age to commit someone against there will - UNLESS you can prove that there is intent to hurt themselves or others (keep in mind, 95% of the time the sick people hurt themselves, not others). My heart goes out to John and his family & I truley hope some of you ignorant people - stop buying into the media reports on mental illness and read up on it on your own. You'll learn alot!!

    Posted by: Jimmy Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 03:38 PM
    Does the kid have any history of using Meth? I have seen people really high on Meth who were certain that DEA agents were hiding in the trees watching them at night... It is scary to see people that far removed from reality because they believe what they are thinking beyond any doubt. One cannot reason with them in any way. You never know what the individual might do in that state. Family or friends should be allowed to have someone committed if they even remotely feel threatened by them. If they are committed and checked out to be OK and there without the need...they could be released. It is sad that it takes someone getting hurt or killed now before you can take action. I would rather see prevention on the side of caution myself. Better to be safe than sorry.

    Posted by: Dave Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 01:44 PM
    Hey Steve, Next time you think about sharing your thoughts with the rest of us, forget about it.

    Posted by: B. Location: OMAHA on May 19, 2008 at 12:01 PM
    To Tom, I absoutley agree with you. What happens next b/c you know he is going to get released. I pray to God he doesn't kill or hurt his Mother. Or anyone else for that matter.

    Posted by: Greenie Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 11:38 AM
    I strongly believe that anyone who is mentally ill who could with high probability be a danger to others should be institutionalized, regardless of their medication. When I was a teen, my paranoid-schizophrenic Aunt tried to stab me to death in my sleep, and she also had injured threatened complete strangers upon occasion. Because of her "medication," they let her loose, and my grandparents were of a generation that believed it was "shameful" to have someone committed. I'm sorry, but I believe medication is not a 100% guarantee of preventing the violence.

    Posted by: Steve Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 11:37 AM
    Time to get educated folks. Mania is most often a sign of bipolar disorder (considered a serious mental illness). Bipolar disorder has a prevalence of 1.0-1.6% in the general population. That would indicate that the high majority of families don't have to worry about this issue. Also, strokes don't often create mania in a patient. The other Steve's anecdotal example of his father's change of personality occurred as the frontal cortex changed towards the end of Alzheimer's. This isn't a common area for a stroke to hit. While it is important to keep track of changes within those around you, it remains a fact that this doesn't concern ~98% of the community. Chris' point that anything can happen to any family is ridiculous. For example, s/he could be infected with Leishmania here in Omaha during the winter but the odds of that are astronomical due to the fact that the parasite only survives near the equator. Please have facts as that's what's needed to educate the public.

    Posted by: Anne Location: Council Bluffs on May 19, 2008 at 11:30 AM
    It saddens me that this mother has to endure this fight. Probably the biggest fight of her life. I too have a son with a mental illness and admire her for standing up and letting others know. Thank~you

    Posted by: Joe U Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 11:15 AM
    Sometimes drugs do more harm than good. Maybe he should just "grow up". His Mom probably spoiled this kid rotten and now he can't survive in the real world so he cries to a doctor and the doctor prescribes medicine that makes this big baby accept life, then when they wear off hes the little spoiled 10 year old again, and comming down off the medication it makes his immature mind that much more weak then before.I have friends who act nuts at the age of 40. They were spoiled rotten as kids and their folks got them on Zoloft type drugs years ago, today they're just 40 year old brats that do stupid things.People need to start raising their kids the old fashioned way with a belt and stop sending them off to doctors who can only drug them up!

    Posted by: BG Location: OMAHA on May 19, 2008 at 10:22 AM
    I would be frightned for my life if I was that MOM. I know they are our kids but you have to take action or someone will get hurt. My friend has a son that has bi polar and tryed to strangle his mother to death but, failed they had him commited for his own good. You never know what can happen to you protect yourselfs.

    Posted by: Jamie Location: Fremont on May 19, 2008 at 10:14 AM
    I strongly disagree...it can happen to anyone. Mental illness doesn't discriminate. That's what Knicely meant. No fear mongering involved.

    Posted by: to steve on May 19, 2008 at 10:11 AM
    yes it can happen to any family--especially in this day and age with the high stress levels. You never know when someone is going to have a stroke and have a complete change of personality or when alzheimers hits. My ex was a good father but alzheimer turned him violent and you never knew when he would explode. We didn't know for a long time what was happening so yes people need be AWARE of what's happening to other family members.

    Posted by: Jarbeau Location: Bellevue on May 19, 2008 at 10:10 AM
    Unfortunately this happens more often than most people want to admit. Most of us simply turn our back on the mentally ill and hope they will go away. Eventually they do.

    Posted by: Susan Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 09:39 AM
    I was married to a man who would go off his medication in a manic moment when he felt he could walk on water. Then would come many days of no sleeping and creeping paranoia, it was a never ending cycle. And there is NO talking any sense into them when their in that state. Its frightening to see someone so out of reality. In years back, family members could commit a person so they could get restarted on meds...now a days if their not hurting themselves or others (even if theyre staying up all night afraid the governement is watching them thru the tv...little can be done to force them back on meds.

    Posted by: M Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 09:29 AM
    Steve, it is closed/narrow minded individuals such as yourself who perpetuate the stigma of these types of diseases & perhaps why many people DO go off their meds. My loved one does not have "severe mental issues", he is bi-polar and my family IS "any family". To John's Mom, me heart goes out to you and I hope that your son will realize the need to get back & stay on his meds. Be strong for yourself as well and God Bless

    Posted by: Chris Location: Millard on May 19, 2008 at 09:14 AM
    Calm down Steve anything can happen to anyone and any family.

    Posted by: Tom Location: Omaha on May 19, 2008 at 06:42 AM
    Glad to see the Mom is OK. and the son is in custody, but what happens after he starts taking his meds, and the state releases him? Does he go back after his Mom or someone else to possibly harm?

    Posted by: Lock M. Up Location: Nebraska on May 19, 2008 at 06:01 AM
    You can't rely on people to take these meds as directed! You can't even rely on their families to make sure they take them, and all it takes is a missed dose. You have to lock them up and make sure they don't flip out and start killing people.

    Posted by: Mary O. Location: Omaha on May 18, 2008 at 11:35 PM
    As I've posted before, before I was born my mother went off her meds because she said she didn't need them anymore. She wasn't feeling bad, though. She was feeling great on them. She didn't realize she was feeling great because she was taking them and they were working for her. By the time I was 5 months old, she wound up so messed up that my now late father refused to tell her what put her in the hospital. To this day, 41 years later, she still doesn't know what happened. Fortunately, my father talked sense into her and she never went off her meds again. I feel so sad when I read stories like these. This could be my mother. I also know people who go through the same thing with their own family members. How do you force an adult to take medication? Again, I think it's imperative that our mentally ill who are a danger to themselves and others be involuntarily admitted to a treatment center. For some it should be permanent.

    Posted by: Steve Location: Omaha on May 18, 2008 at 10:20 PM
    Correction to Knicely's lead in tonight. This can't happen in any family and to say so if just plain fear-mongering. These issues only occur with individuals with severe mental issues and care should be taken when one is in your life but most parents do not need to be worried about this.

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