Cabin Owners Blame Corps For Flooding
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Posted: 6:34 PM Sep 23, 2008
Last Updated: 12:59 PM Sep 24, 2008
Reporter: Mike McKnight
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Imagine owning a vacation getaway you can only reach by wading through water and mud. About two dozen cabin owners, many from the Omaha metro, say they're being intentionally flooded out.

Their cabins are three hours north of the metro near Gavins Point Dam. The owners blame the Corps of Engineers for not doing enough to prevent flooding of their vacation property every summer.

Omahan Mike Aliano wonders if that's on purpose. “I believe they want us out. They want that whole river bottom out, they want it to themselves and I don't see them doing anything to solve the problem."

“Heavens no," says Paul Johnston of the Corps of Engineers. If we could find a nice economic way to fix their problem we'd sure do it."

Cabin owners say the problem is like an almost plugged drain. When water is released at Gavins Point Dam, the water flow miles upstream back up onto their property. They say a solution is dredging the mouth of the Niobrara River, about a mile away. Though that sounds simple, the Corps says dredging the mouth of the Niobrara is not cheap or easy.

Cabin owners say a trip to their weekend getaways is hardly a vacation anymore. They are now fighting a plan to spend millions of dollars to move a highway affected by the continual flooding. They believe that money would be better spent digging out the silt that causes the water to back up onto their land.

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Posted by: michael on Sep 30, 2008 at 09:15 PM
The flooding on this property is just portion of the problem that exist. Farmers have lost thousands of acres of firtile farmland to this problem. When Hi-way12 becomes impassible,the city of Niobrara becomes cut-off which causes an inconveince for everyone involved.This siltation problem is alot bigger than a person can imangine.Gavin Point has become so silted in that the Corp has stated that they would like to Directional bore a few 12ft. holes under the dam and try to remove the silt that way.The Corp would be better off dismantling Gavins Point and let the river run free.There are too many people in charge that don't know the extent of this problem and don't care.Bottom line is we are all going to pay wether you own property up river or not

Posted by: M on Sep 29, 2008 at 08:51 PM
People don't understand this situation, they just like to spout off about other peoples issues without any knowledge. The land has trailers on stilts to avoid water damage. The problem that arises is the fact that thousands and thousands of dollars are poured into a property to add gravel to the roads and around the trailers to raise the level due to high water. And after buying property and investing in improvements you go on vacation only to find that if the water is low enough that you can get into the property, you will be wading in ankle deep water. This does not make for a good time for the kids. Occasional flooding would be acceptable, an entire summer is not. This is a new problem that needs to be addressed. Anyone that wants to make a negative comment should first look at the Advanced Hydrologic Prediction Service web site, you will see that the Niobrara station is the only one that never at a normal level. It shows at least near flood stage or minor flooding at all times.

Posted by: Travis on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:36 AM
I have been up to Niobrara on the river. It is being destroyed by the Corps of Engineers!

Posted by: Informed Humanitarian on Sep 27, 2008 at 12:54 PM
travis, you have a lot to learn about probability and assumption. It seems the only place left for you to live is the side of a volcano. Enjoy!

Posted by: mac on Sep 26, 2008 at 11:07 PM
First of all, these people have not "built" luxurious vacation homes. These are middle class, working people who work two to three jobs. These are people who have families and are trying to make ends meet. These people have put a little "cabin--trailer" on some land because they can't afford to take luxurious vacations. Their land is purposely being flooded. There is a difference between nature taking its course and the corps doing it. Maybe some of you should do more research into what your tax dollars are being spent on and give these working-middle class families a break!

Posted by: travis on Sep 26, 2008 at 07:01 PM
So according to everyone no help for people who build in an area prone to flooding. So no help for people who build in areas prone to tornados, no help for people who build in areas prone huricanes and no help for people who build in areas prone to earthquakes. Real bunch of uninformed humanitarians you all are.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 26, 2008 at 05:46 PM
They want free money from the government. Wait a minute! That's my money!

Posted by: Jim on Sep 26, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Some of you people or missing alot of information. first of all these are not homes but trailers and small weekend cabins owned by people who work 9 to 5 jobs like everyone else. Second is this lands never flooded for 25 years until 5 years ago when The Corp of Engineers stated raising and lower the river for no reason. The flooding that is cause is not because of nature, but because of the core.the flooding always happens during the summer months, never after heavy rain falls or after the spring thaw. They wipeout areas where terns nest and spawning areas.

Posted by: ez on Sep 25, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Well gee... you have a home in a FLOOD PLAIN and complain when it floods. Suck it up and quit blaming everyone else for it. If my cabin on the Platte floods, guess what? It's in a flood plain too and I deal with it. Get a life.

Posted by: Essie on Sep 25, 2008 at 11:31 AM
to "Trish" - why should the corps worry about 12 homes built in a flood plain no matter how many years they've owned them? You get what you deserve if you build in a flood plain. And what town? The article says nothing about a town. Is there a town flooding? How many homes and businesses are damaged by the frequent flooding? What are the costs? Are the taxpayers picking up the bill for the damages? I didn't think so ....

Posted by: A Nebraska Taxpayer on Sep 25, 2008 at 10:48 AM
This is not just about vacation homes, but also about NE wasted taxes that has already built a new highway less than 10 years ago because of this same problem and now 60 million to reroute a new road because of high waters backing up from blocked (silt) river. NE tax dollars helped to build a Bird Sanctuary that was destroyed the following year to high release of water, islands were cleared to place endangered nesting species and then flooded them out the next year with high release of waters. If a rerouted road as the Corps suggest, the Niobrara park and town would perish - presently part of Hwy 12 is closed due to this problem. Our tax dollars need to be accounted for and spent in a productive manner!!! Take care of the problem, not the symptom. Opening the mouth of the river would only help to benefit the flow for our folks down south, save the NE taxpayer mega bucks, save a highway, park and town.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 25, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Cry me a river...

Posted by: Chris on Sep 25, 2008 at 01:33 AM
I thought a cabin vacation was supposed to be a communion with nature. What are these people complaining about?

Posted by: AB on Sep 25, 2008 at 12:15 AM
And so reigns the problems of the poor, American people. No wonder other countries see ours as a bunch of rich, whiney brats...

Posted by: Trish on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:57 PM
I know these people and this land has been in their family for years!!! It is a tradition and it is too bad that the corps doesn't think of the town or these people!!!

Posted by: carol on Sep 24, 2008 at 07:21 PM
what part of "river front" don't they understand? My grandparents had river front property but they had the good sense to put their home on stilts, hence, no flooding......it isn't like opening the dam at times was a surprise to anyone....so live with it or move....

Posted by: ron on Sep 24, 2008 at 03:50 PM
their flooding up north, and were stuck in the mud in bellevue.raise the river

Posted by: jan on Sep 24, 2008 at 03:43 PM
boo hoo-Was the river not there when you built your home??--this the same as the people who built out their Fancy houses out in the country-- by farms and businesses that have been in the area for 50 years then complain about the smell or the dust on the road from the farm trucks and expect the farms and business to stop their animals from smelling and pave the road. get over yourselves you picked a spot by the river I'm sure to enjoy the river ect. Why should tax money go to help 2 dozen people - when the highway services an entire community

Posted by: ron on Sep 24, 2008 at 03:21 PM
if the corps would quit trying to play god with the river flow we would have less problems

Posted by: RM on Sep 24, 2008 at 03:05 PM
Look at Galveston that tells you what happens when you build in flood plains and on lake shores river banks and seashores. Stop crying because of where you build.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 24, 2008 at 02:33 PM
Hey, geeze, these people must have misunderstood when they heard the banking system was going to collapse. They were thinking of their riverfront homes.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 24, 2008 at 01:59 PM
This Aliano needs some meds for his paranoia. The most you could accuse the corps of doing is just plain not really caring (I mean, why would you build there to begin with? do any of US care??) but to think it is intentional is rediculous!

Posted by: Mary on Sep 24, 2008 at 01:40 PM
I have absolutely no sympathy to anyone that builds on the bank of a river.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 24, 2008 at 12:37 PM
You have wasted a lot of money on a recurring problem. It's not the Corps fault you built in a floodplain. Maybe you should look at relocating instead of complaining about nature.

Posted by: Agree w/move on on Sep 24, 2008 at 12:32 PM
right, i don't see anyone helping me with my permante home that gets flooded. I choose to live next to a river and that is the consequence.

Posted by: Why on Sep 24, 2008 at 12:28 PM
How is digging out the silt in a fast moving ever changing river to basically improve your vacation home better then working on a highway that continuously floods that affects all the people that live there on a day to day basis? And I'm pretty sure that if digging out the silt would be the answer they would have done it already. Because you may be dealing with the flooding now, but it's been a problem for a long time.

Posted by: Understandably a concern on Sep 24, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Has a study been done to determine if dredging would help the situation, or is this just a suggestion of the cabin owners? How often would dredging need to be conducted because this is not a one time all's fixed? How much will each dredging cost? And finally what will dredging the mouth of the Niobrara change downstream? These cabin owners know they built or bought in a flood plain, but there could be a bigger picture that hasn't been painted yet. Good luck.

Posted by: Steve on Sep 24, 2008 at 11:17 AM
People that live THAT close to water have no right to complain. They knew from the get-go that eventually something like this could happen. I have NO SYMPATHY for them whatsoever ! ! !

Posted by: geeze on Sep 24, 2008 at 10:43 AM
The entire banking system in on the verge of collapse and you only care about your vacation cabins. You Americans are something else.

Posted by: Essie on Sep 24, 2008 at 10:13 AM
am I missing something here? Why would anyone, in their right mind, purchase a piece of property knowing it floods every year? As far as whether to support moving the highway vesus dredging the mouth of the Niobrara, I'd like to see the cost to do each. I have a feeling that dredging would be cheaper if it were a one time thing, but I'm wondering how often it would have to be dredged in order to keep the flooding from happening again and again. Personally, I think these dozen people are idiots for purchasing river bottom land to begin with. Duh, water doesn't drain well on river bottom land - that's a given and why should the taxpayers pay to keep 12 vacation homes dry? I want a better argument that what information has been presented here!

Posted by: Alex on Sep 24, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Curiosity overwhelms me, but what was there first, the dam, or the cabins? I would think that is a risk you run when building near a river.

Posted by: barney on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:30 AM
Can't really blame the corp of engineers. They just work with their hands. They're not mother nature.

Posted by: Kevin on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:14 AM
So, this problem would be solved if we ignored 100 years of hydrological engineering and allow the rivers to flood on their own. After all, these peoples vacation homes are more important than infrastucture in Sioux City, Omaha, and Kansas City, etc. 'They bought the plane tickets, they knew what they getting into - I say let 'em crash!' --Airplane!

Posted by: Jarbeau on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:01 AM
Too bad. The owners should find a sucker to take the property off their hands. There is bound to be a buyer, heck, they bought a cabin.

Posted by: Erin on Sep 24, 2008 at 07:04 AM
If the cabin owners what the mouth of the river dredged & the corps says it si OK, then the cabin owners can foot the bill.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 24, 2008 at 06:58 AM
move then

Posted by: Chris on Sep 23, 2008 at 11:17 PM
I thought cabins are a "get back to nature" vacation. What's the problem?

Posted by: Move on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:51 PM
Why are the taxpayers responsible for your vacation homes. I guess you should've built them on higher ground.

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