Decision Made, Community Still Bitterly Divided
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Fremont illegal immigration ordinance defeated
Posted: 10:04 PM Jul 29, 2008
Last Updated: 7:25 PM Jul 30, 2008
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A vote was taken and a decision made, but the debate in Fremont hasn’t ended. Mayor Don Edwards broke a tie by the City Council Tuesday night, voting down a proposed ordinance that would have made it against the law to knowingly hire or rent to illegal aliens.

The issue was so controversial that the City Council meeting had to be moved to Fremont High School where more than 1,000 people turned out, required to walk through metal detectors to enter the auditorium.

City leaders heard more than three hours of public testimony. Some spoke in favor of the ordinance, referring to medical costs, job losses and increased crime as part of the impact illegal immigrants have had on the community. Those against it called it divisive and discriminatory.

Dozens of law enforcement officers were on hand from the Fremont Police Department, Dodge County Sheriff's Department and Nebraska State Patrol.

It was the second of what was supposed to be three hearings on the issue with a final hearing and vote scheduled for August 26th.

But the council decided to suspend its rules and immediately take a final vote, which ended in a 4-4 deadlock. Mayor Edwards cast the deciding vote against the measure. “I vote no.”

Citizens and non-citizens would have had to obtain a $5 occupancy license to rent a home or apartment. Renters without licenses or landlords renting to people without licenses would have each been subject to a fine.

The issue still has people talking. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing depends on who you ask.

The International Bakery has been at East 2nd and North Main streets for five months and has established a diverse customer base. "A lot of people, a lot of white people, they come here and they love bread, Mexican bread, they love our stuff,” says Carlos Barranco.

That is until recently when the illegal alien ordinance was first proposed. "The last two to three weeks, we had a lot of business down,” says bakery owner Antonio Granillo.

Operators suspect the proposal stirred up a lot of bad feelings and generating some fear among Hispanics. "A lot of people think Fremont is not a good place to live because white people is like racist," says Barranco.

Small business owner Dana Mackey says the community is united and its issues are not unique. "I really think this is just part of the process that the whole nation is gonna go through before this thing is settled."

While he didn't support the ordinance, he says the debate has been healthy. "Dialogue is needed and the masses have to come together. They have to come together and we have to work together."

It’s a sentiment echoed by those at the International Bakery. "I hope this is a problem from the past so we should work for a better Fremont."

In time, Barranco hopes the division he sees will fade, for the bakery's bottom line and for the community's spirit.

The city councilman who proposed the ordinance, Bob Warner, is not planning on running again after his term expires in December. Mayor Edwards is organizing a community task force to examine the issue of illegal immigration further, working with state and federal lawmakers.

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Posted by: Fed Up on Aug 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM
I hear you Gloria, that is my main topic to for voting. I think the president and anyone else I can vote for needs to step to the plate and get the illegals out of here. We are spending way too much money to keep them here. Since there are legal people in our country that need our help, that sometimes can't get it. Round them up. All you have to do is go to the ER or malls. They have all the money in the world, since they get free medical and food. Park the bus out back and start loading them up.

Posted by: Gloria on Aug 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Fremont has every right to demand citizenship of people who want to rent homes or to work there. Read the Constitution. The illegal folks are really cocky around Omaha, just go to the South O Target or the Crossroads one, and try to make your way around without being exposed to loud chattering by groups of illegals in Mexican. They are really confident of their invincibility, and of course, Target stores want to sell to anyone. They don't sell to me, anymore. This is such a sad situation with the Congres not doing anything to regulate illegal immigration - probably because of their PAC money from big business that wants cheap labor. Someone from Lee Terry's office called and asked me for the topic I really wanted him to work on, and I said Immigration, and if he doesn't do anything, I will not vote for him. Of course, I am only one voter, so it probably won't mean anything.

Posted by: John on Aug 2, 2008 at 06:50 AM
EM. a better, more streamlined immigration process? I shouldn't have to tell anyone this, again, but. The U.S. is the third most populated country in the world. The U.S. accepts more legal immigrants than all other countries in the world combined. More than any other country in history. Never in human history has there been such a massive migration as that which is occurring from latin America to the U.S. Is this a taste of the equality that illegal alien advocates call for, cause it sounds like a system that babies and coddles a certain ethnic group or groups while placing the burden of responsiblity on the rest.

Posted by: Wondering on Aug 1, 2008 at 08:27 PM
Skid Edwards, Mayor, must own houses and apartments? Maybe not, but his type usually has more irons in the fire than one can find. Only the residents and legal citizens can vote him out of office. Running out the back door to avoid the press, just about tells it all. Chickcn is putting it mildly.

Posted by: Sounds Good on Aug 1, 2008 at 08:56 AM
"No renting or jobs to people with ANY gang affiliation?" Sounds good to me! I'd like to see mere gang membership become a major felony crime, with the penalty of 40 years on a hard-labor chain gang with no parole, no early release.

Posted by: AMY on Aug 1, 2008 at 05:12 AM
Skip Edwards let Fremont down by casting the deciding vote. He is suppose to be the leader of the community not be paid off by Hormels for voting their way. I am so ashamed of a mayor who would put big business interests before the interests of the legal citizens in the community. Please resign because you do not belong as mayor of Fremont. Perhaps we can get him impeached?

Posted by: Send it to Mexico on Jul 31, 2008 at 09:50 PM
I would rather see the money go to Mexico than to the Middle East.

Posted by: Jeff on Jul 31, 2008 at 08:07 PM
To the people who corrected my under the mircoscope statement-Thank You! But the message is the same,If your here illegally and you want to stay do it the right way.and learn the language of the land!!!

Posted by: david on Jul 31, 2008 at 06:35 PM
United States Consitituion agreed by state ratification by The State of Nebraska. Section 2 - State citizens, Extradition The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The illegals breach thesse rights of every U.S. citizen residing in each state. The law enforcement has the power and responsibility to arrest illegals for their U.S. constitutional responsibility to each citizen to exercise privileges of U.S. citizneship and the state is liable for not arresting illegals.

Posted by: david on Jul 31, 2008 at 06:15 PM
Fremont's vote was in violation of the U.S. constitution where the state is in violation of not protecting the welfare of its own citizens and the law enforcement has the power and obligation to arrest illegals. This is a liability under the U.S. constitution to promote illegals at the expense of U.S. citizen residing in Nebraska. Nebraska, by not arresting illegals has violated the U.S. constitution. This is a serious infringement and is still legally prosecutable against the state.

Posted by: jay-o on Jul 31, 2008 at 05:14 PM
Doesn't anyone find it interesting that a country who once welcomed and promoted imigration, and whos history is rooted in imigration, now pushes them away, and ignores the fact that a great majority of our ancestors were in fact imigrants.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 31, 2008 at 04:44 PM
There goes the neighborhood - I wonder what this decision will do to the housing market in Fremont. I predict there will be plenty of houses for sale soon.

Posted by: Em on Jul 31, 2008 at 03:55 PM
Divisiveness does not make a country strong. What will be the next proposal? No renting or jobs to people with ANY gang affiliation? Let's work on making a better and more streamlined immigration process.

Posted by: W on Jul 31, 2008 at 03:38 PM
Sorry Gomez but why does 24th street look like mexico then? Why aren't there signs in english? This is an english speaking country. I do not shop at anyplace that doesn't want me. I find it funny the asians and germans and irish and EVERYONE else from other countries except the hispanics have english signs in their stores.

Posted by: Been To Mexico b4 on Jul 31, 2008 at 02:38 PM
This is a big problem. The illegal’s are hurting the schools filing up the jails. They don’t pay any tax or have a care about what goes on. There are the Mexican that have done it right. I applaud you for that. Please help us help your family and friends. We will welcome them. like one of the other bloggers said. Just look at South Omaha. What a turn around over the last 12-15 years. We only ask that you do it the right way. Good things come to those who wait, follow the rule and try hard. Good Luck with this fight.

Posted by: Sylvia on Jul 31, 2008 at 02:32 PM
To Mexicano 100%: "I feel that ignorance should be illegal". That is the case right now, with the illegals being ignorant of the laws, or choosing to act ignorant and so surprised when we resent them, and trying to get them to understand that they are not, repeat not, welcome. Guess that is one benefit of ignorance - they don't speak English for a good reason. If they did, they'd maybe get the message.

Posted by: g on Jul 31, 2008 at 01:47 PM
Hey Gomez, Take all of the illegals then and you put up with the freebees in south o being your community is so rich, you can pay for them as they are your own kind!!!!!

Posted by: J on Jul 31, 2008 at 01:44 PM
@Lori, NW Omaha: You have to show some type of ID to register to vote, either in person (motor-voter) or if you register by mail, when you show up to vote for the first time. Nebraska is pretty trusting - we ask name and verify address. A person COULD go to multiple polling places, giving multiple names and addresses, but he/she would have to sound very confident in rattling off the address so as not to arouse suspicion. You do not have to show ID to vote in Nebraska - but as I pointed out before (and you have pointed out indirectly) the current driver's license in Nebraska can be easily forged. Matter of fact, there was a d.l. station (one person staff) in Western Nebraska selling them. I am all in favor of REAL ID, despite the initial personal inconvenience. As to the other states - I can only advise you as to Nebraska voting procedures. If you think there's a problem, tell the Inspector at that polling place. That's why we get the "big" bucks.

Posted by: Phil on Jul 31, 2008 at 11:06 AM
As a former Nebraskan that now lives in a third world country (California) I know first hand the consequences of illegal immigration. Don't let the same happen to Nebraska. All illegal aliens should be deported no matter what country they are from. If want to come to this country follow our laws.

Posted by: Doesn't make sense on Jul 31, 2008 at 10:25 AM
I have a question. Why should we do anything other than send illegal immigrants back to their homeland? Why should we reward them for breaking the law by fastracking their way to legal status or providing amnesty? If you were to find out your child stole something would you say, "Now, son that was wrong to steal that candybar, but I realize you were just hungry. So instead of making you put it back, apologize, and be grounded until you earn the money to pay for it on your own, I'm just going to buy it for you instead." It doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: GOMEZ on Jul 31, 2008 at 10:16 AM
the truth of the matter is that all of you bitter americans are just jealous beacause we actually do something thanks to the hispanic community even south omaha has grown and has given tons of money in taxes look at south 24th st? MONEY MONEY every where the south omaha business association has created the wonderful look that is has we are doing something and not shooting ourselves like North Omaha my father has worked very hard and now work for himself he has two busineses and Fremont here we come yes we plan on buying land and becoming established there as well. and we will stop working for our American dream so all you who oppose keep arguing we will only grow strong. GOD BLESS AMERICA MY HOME SWEET HOME!

Posted by: Lori on Jul 31, 2008 at 09:54 AM
J= what about the "motor voter" law encated by Clinton? Where all you had to do was provide a driver's license to register on the premises and then immediately vote? Or has that fallen by the wayside? Plus, how do we know legal aliens aren't voting more than once, supposedly on behalf of illegals? Granted, this type of fraud isn't exactly common in Nebraska but I understand it is on the Left Coast and in the big states back East...

Posted by: Jane on Jul 31, 2008 at 08:51 AM
To Wife: If you're married to an illegal person, my guess is that your marriage is not actually legal also. Fourteen years is long enough to get through the paperwork to become a U.S. citizen.

Posted by: M on Jul 31, 2008 at 08:13 AM
I like the whole "annex Mexico" stance. Let's elect Fahey to president and we may get Canada thrown in there too!

Posted by: John on Jul 31, 2008 at 07:52 AM
Mexicano 100%, I find it ironic for someone who calls himself 100% Mexican to be telling the rest of us to work as a team. Here's where the confusion is. Your in the U.S.A. now. Your have to join our team. I don't think most of us are interested in joining Mexico.

Posted by: Gary on Jul 31, 2008 at 07:44 AM
Good spineless job Mayor! Your "LEGAL" citizens will remember that. To all of you pandering to the illegals, remember your tax dollars too are funding their free ride. Why don't you step up and double or triple your share to the CAUSE? I bet you won't. To all the smug illegals that think you squeaked by another victory...you didn't. More and more local communities and states are starting to feel your DRAIN on the system. Take a look at the states that have chosen to enforce the laws...you all ran out of there. Wonder why that was? Oh, I know, no more hand-outs. What happened to being here for the American dream? No fun when it involves pure WORK with no handouts! You're not fooling anyone. As long as the economy keeps getting worse, we are going to keep working on cutting out the welfare freebies to non-citizens. We'll see how many of you stick around here afterwords. We "racists" (your terms) are not going to stop trying to enforce the laws here. Good luck! Adios!!

Posted by: B on Jul 31, 2008 at 05:45 AM
WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DON"T YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND! Go to your nearest I.C.E. office, I'm sure they will explain it to you!

Posted by: A on Jul 31, 2008 at 01:33 AM
I just want to know why is it that when stuff like this comes up people proud of their Mexican heritage make a big noise? If you are doing nothing wrong, then why act so guilty? Sorry I know little Spanish so maybe most of you won't understand.... Oh this is for mr/mrs 100% mexican and Jessica. Face it we don't want you here if you come here illegally, so stop whining when we treat you badly. Stop making things hard for the good people who come from your countries and do us proud by coming in with an understanding and a love for our country. Because of you others in probably worse positions then yourself cannot come here legally, does that make you feel proud. Because once again if it does that proves your selfish worth and makes you even less a human being. Please don't argue this, it's all too true.

Posted by: K Ols on Jul 31, 2008 at 01:26 AM
#1. Get organized and push for a Constitutional Amendment to change the definition of what constitutes a citizen of the United States. This would resolve the "anchor baby" problem which is why so many of the invaders come. Read Amendment XIV, Section 1. We must push Congress relentlessly to make this change. Call, write, and e-mail them regularly. #2 Fine and jail anyone who aids and abets in the lawlessness of helping them stay here. This is already in immigration law that it is illegal to help illegals in commiting the crime of staying in the United States. i.e. enforce laws already on the books. This would include employers, churches, social services, and educational systems. These law breakers should be sent home where they can petition and/or protest their own governments to do something about their own economy. To all illegals: Stop flounting your illegal status and being arrogant by waving your flag in our country. You help create resentment.

Posted by: Sid on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:39 PM
All I hear is Nyaa Nyaa Nyaa on the part of the illegals who got their way. Fremont is going to have a task force to explore the situation, and I hope they can get facts and figures about the school costs, the medical costs and any other figures relating to the illegals. School costs run from $7,000 to $9,000 per year apiece, and the hospital just writes the bills off, adding to those who can pay. Why do you think Omaha had to go to a Learning Community to get the money to deal with the hundreds of children we must educate because the government will not send the illegals back. Go to a hospital in Omaha and you will see whole illegal families on the elevators, getting off on the maternity floor to visit. Medical facilities must pay for translators at $40 an hour or part of an hour. Folks there are lots of costs involved in this situation and we citizens are paying. Even if the illegals became instant citizens, they would still be sending money "home". This isn't over yet.

Posted by: Non-hyphenated American on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:56 PM
Do you think that the mayor voted as he did because he was afraid for his safety if he didn't? Maybe he saw the hordes of people promoting those who break the law and rightly feared for his life and property. Find the illegals and send them back to wherever - now - before we become a third-world country because of these criminals. Fix the immigration system to make it run more smoothly so that those who wish to come legally can do so. I'd be more than happy to help any legal immigrant and I'd be equally as happy to report an illegal alien to the nearest INS official, no matter how long the criminal has been living here. Of course my grandparents were immigrants, but they learned English without special programs and made a living without a government handout. They didn't expect to find their native language on every document. They were proud to be Americans - no hyphens needed - and flew the American flag, not the one they chose to leave behind.

Posted by: It IS our business! on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:52 PM
Jessica in Omaha: As Americans this IS our business. In fact, it's our obligation to demand that the Federal government enforces the laws that its meant to enforce. I don't care what your nationality is, I don't care what your skin tone is, what I do care about is people having some respect for our country. How can illegals really claim to love our country and want to be here so badly if they can't even follow the most basic of law: COME HERE LEGALLY! Those who have come here legally have earned my respect and it's sad that they had to make the effort to do things the right way while so many others flip us the bird on their way over and laugh hysterically all the while they're here because they know our government isn't going to do one darn thing about it until citizens (born here and legal together) rise up and demand that they do! WE THE PEOPLE. THEY (our government) SERVE US (the citizens)! MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD!!

Posted by: tst on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:40 PM
I'm sick of the US being the appointed world Savior. Worried about poverty & starvation? Fix the problem here first. Worried about a good education for your children? Fix our schools before allowing other children in just because our now "sub par" schools are better than their even worse (or non existent) education system. Why is it the job of the US to take care of everyone else? We don't even like to take care of our own. (Think welfare complaints). I won't be made to feel badly because I was born in a country with some of the best opportunities and freedoms around and someone else wasn't. If you can't show even the minimum amount of respect to this country and all the opportunities being here provides, by coming here through legal measures, you shouldn't be here to begin with. Stay and suffer where you are. How many of you would continue to help someone you saw suffering if they accepted your goodwill while spitting in your face?

Posted by: DB on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:29 PM
Why does everybody want to yell at the illegal immigrants? When our lawmakers can't even be bothered to enforce the laws. THEY are the ones you should be screaming at.

Posted by: born here, but 100% mexican on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:08 PM
DON'T BE IGNORANT PEOPLE. WE COME TO WORK AND TO SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES, WE DO NOT HAVE THE ACCOMODATIONS WE HAVE HERE BACK IN OUR COUNTRIES....AND WHAT IF WE DO SEND MONEY TO OTHER COUNTRIES FOR HELP....DID YOU EARNED IT OR DID I ? "NATIVE SON" DON'T BE A SELL OUT!!

Posted by: JESSICA on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:25 PM
DEAN AMERICANS, STOP YOUR CRYING AND COMPLAINING MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.. COMPRENDE??? BECAUSE WERE NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND AS YOU CAN SEE IT ONLY GETS WORSE SO CHILL OUT AND SEE YOU AROUND BUDDIES....

Posted by: Greg on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:24 PM
It sounds like the the Fremont mayor wanted to appease some of his buddies in the business community. Folks, we need to really bug our congresspeople and get the laws that are supposedly on the books pertaining to ILLEGAL immigration enforced.

Posted by: Sue on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:49 PM
Congratulations Fremont, You have just announced to the world ,that you are a "sanctuary city". The welcome mat is out to all illegals. "Come one come all, we will provide free medical,free education,free school breakfast and lunches for your children,free english lessons, subsidized housing, EBT cards, and anything else we can come up with. You are perfectly safe here. Tell your relatives." We must look like the biggest chumps to the rest of the world. We bury our heads to a mass invasion from another country. Say good-by to the America we love, we will become a third world country eventually. Do you realize how many people 20 million illegals are? Nebraska has 1.7 million residents. The illegals amount to over 11 times Nebraska's population. Can someone stop this insanity!!!!!!!

Posted by: to Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:38 PM
Yes I agree anyone would do this work for the right price, however then Hormel packs up and moves to Mexico like many of the fruit companies have done because we are now in a global economy. They cannot pay line workers 15 dollars an hour unless you want to pay more at the grocery store.

Posted by: J on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:32 PM
@Lori, NW Omaha: Illegals cannot vote. Only legal US citizens can vote. When you hear about those rallies and the "We vote!" signs, it refers to those who are here legally who sympathize with the cause. If you ever see someone at a polling place attempting to vote that you know is an illegal, you have the right to challenge that person. Just tell the polling place Inspector that you challenge (use those words) that person's right to vote. You do have to state why, and who you are and do have to sign a form. As to SSN#, identity theft is rampant and is not restricted to non-US citizens - plenty of red-blooded Americans steal SSN#s and sell them - including to illegals. We need the REAL ID ACT implemented here in Nebraska, but we'd have to give up our multiple driver's license stations in Douglas Co. and pay a lot more for our licenses. Tough/impossible to forge a REAL ID - easy to forge the current license. But you'll need a certified copy of your birth certificate and SS card.

Posted by: anon on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:28 PM
I was born in the USA, as well as my parents, their parents, and even their parents, so,my documentation is here. These folks were born elsewhere and have no intentions of becoming legal citizens. They even take much of their money back to Mexico to help others smuggle their way in to the US. I for one will no longer to the bakery after the owner called white people racists. All I want, is that if you live here, you live by the laws set forth. If you'll break those laws, then what other laws are you willing to break?

Posted by: Mexicano 100% on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:16 PM
What a best way for our economy to raise up to standard. Give US all opportunities to contribute to our state. whether we're here legal or not, we are HERE and we are a community..no, legals do NOT provide any benefits to Ilegals...they dont feed or house them..ilegals just as LEGALS have the right to "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness"...have we forgotten our constitution? Yes, citizenship can be obtained, but what about world peace? do I have to be a CITIZEN for YOU to like me? I dont think so. Im glad to say I had the opportunity to migrate LEGALLY and make a living, but I do have relatives that did not have the same opportunity yet they are hard working people, have no problems w/the law...to be quite honest, I've seen CITIZENS do more crazy things than those of us that are not...who are we to JUDGE? why dont we all just work as a TEAM...I feel that Ignorance should be Ilegal...

Posted by: Terri on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:06 PM
I wish Fremont would have made the stand since the Federal Government can't seem to fix this problem. Either make them all legal, so they can pay taxes and speak our language ENGLISH, or lets round them up somehow and get them out of here and build the fences as high and as strong as possible. Fremont could have been applauded by the whole country, instead they cowered in a corner. I wish someone would stand up and take care of this problem, because INS says they won't do anything unless there is at least 20. Well you have to start somewhere don't you. Start rounding them up 1 at a time, you would have 20 in no time and load up the buses.

Posted by: dave on Jul 30, 2008 at 05:57 PM
The Number one legal immigration race for 4 decades per the U.S. Census is Latino. Making illegals legal would be racist because it would place the Latino as a master race and telling the 168 countries in the world that the u.s. is racism against other than Latinos. The U.S. is not racist against Latinos because they are the highest legal immigrants in the U.S. for four decades. To decry rasism against illegals is a lie.

Posted by: Native Son on Jul 30, 2008 at 05:44 PM
I am Cherokee/Choctaw Indian and my peoples history goes back as far as the stone age. The "white" government made my people learn english and would beat our children if they spoke our native tounge. LEARN ENGLISH! Furthermore; those claiming that "Native Americans" ran out the first true American are foolish. For those "immigrants" or "Aliens" who are looking for a better life need to apply to get their citizenship. Don't come over here and work for 3 months and send money back to Mexico. If your going to live in America, pay taxes, have car insurance and learn english.

Posted by: Jon on Jul 30, 2008 at 05:29 PM
It's all about the Zenophobia. On both sides! The race card has been pulled about a handful of times by posters here. Why is that such a useful argument? I notice, too that the only people using the race card are those from a race other than white. so...just because someone is white, and they have a problem with people breaking the laws of their country, it makes them racist? Hmm. Also, on the other side. Isn't there a genuine need for labor in this country? Consider the amount of professional jobs out there (look in the paper). Instead of bickering over race, taking jobs, blah, blah, blah, shouldn't we put our time and money into studying the amount of people needed to fill the basic-labor jobs, (At equal wages), and maybe start enforcing the equal wage act, that should settle things down on both sides of the issue, don't you think?

Posted by: agree w/tired of it on Jul 30, 2008 at 05:28 PM
I agree with tired of it. I don't care that you are here. I welcome that you and your children and families are here - that is one of the things that makes this nation great - but you need to do it legally. I would think any good person who really wants to do the right thing woudl agree and would take the necessary steps to become a citizen. That is what I would be expected to do (and would want to do)if I went to any other country...Why should it be different here r.H.?

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 04:57 PM
To Kim: Hormel used to be very good place to work with adequate pay. When the illegals came along, they scrambled to get the jobs saying they would take less pay, squeezing out those who had done the work for many years. One of the packing houses that had a large raid (Iowa I believe) had a full complement of workers in one week, but had to pay a dollar more. It is not that folks will not do this work, they have for generations, but the illegals pushed them out and the employers opened their arms to the savings. I don't get this "our citizens won't do this work" They will if the pay is adequate. The Quest Center construction is another example: lots of carpenters around here were squeezed out by illegals brought in deliberately to save money for the contractor (the people of Omaha made not one dime). Wonder who we could get to squeeze out the illegals?

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 04:44 PM
I wonder how many of our ancestors could prove that they were really 'legal citizens'. As proud as one should be about citizenship you would think that we would know the exact date our ancestors acquired their citizenship, in fact one would think that the documentation would be handed down from generation to generation. During the great immigration of the early 20th century when most of Omaha and the surrounding farming communities were built there were blanket citizenship's awarded. Having to prove the legality was not necessary, just proving that you worked for a living was good enough (speaking the language was not a requirement). I'm not certain any of us can cast a stone. Perhaps a good start towards settling this issue would be for everyone who is currently an American citizen to be able to prove that through documentation.

Posted by: John on Jul 30, 2008 at 04:27 PM
Illegals who are paid above the table simply claim so many children that they pay little or no taxes. Personally I can't see what the division is about. Meaning the current wave of immigrants needs to ask permission to enter the U.S. the same way they would have to anywhere else in the world. And furthermore pass a criminal, and medical screening the same as U.S. immigrants of the past. In the past there was a quota as to how many persons could immigrate to the U.S. from any given country. Immigration from Mexico both legal and illegal has already by far exceeded any fair quota. Furthermore this discussion isn't really about immigrants in the first place. It's about criminals in the U.S. illegally.

Posted by: Lori on Jul 30, 2008 at 03:12 PM
Could SOMEONE explain to me why illegal immigrants have the right to vote in U.S. ELECTIONS? Or are we allowed to cross the border and vote in MEXICO'S elections???? Am I alone in assuming that UNITED STATES elected officials should be elected by CITIZENS (and by that I mean LEGAL citizens) of the United States? Who can I call/write to get this changed??? And how do you get a SSN without citizenship??!!

Posted by: r.H. on Jul 30, 2008 at 03:04 PM
All i have to say is that Latinos are here and we are here to stay! legal or illegal. if a certain person does not like to see brown people speaking different languages around town move back to Germany or to a 100% white town. Because we aren't going NOWHERE! have a good day.

Posted by: Tired of it on Jul 30, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Illegal is illegal, politicians need to quit pandering to minorities who only have power because they don't want to be labeled a racist. If I'm a racist for wanting the law upheld, then so be it. I really don't care if you're here from Mexico, France, Russian or Mars, if you're here illegally, you need to be deported. If you want to make a better life for your family, then you shouldn't teach them that it's ok to break the law. Do it the right way or face the consequences. Shame on you Mayor Edwards, shame on you.

Posted by: Jdean on Jul 30, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Have another immergency council meeting in Fremont concerning the ordinance and then have the feds come in and do an immigration sweep. Should have did that last night. I dont have problems with legals though. They are trying to do the right thing.

Posted by: DWJ on Jul 30, 2008 at 02:25 PM
These Illegal’s invaded our country and most do not follow our laws and could care less to assimilate into our population. Kick the criminals out and vote out our government officials who have turned a blind eye to this issue the last 4-5 decades. I have no problem with the immigrants who came in the legal way they at least care about joining our country and living the American dream, the rest our parasites on our country.

Posted by: Jeff on Jul 30, 2008 at 02:05 PM
Never did I think I could side with the "opposition". In the job I have I get to see a great deal of the "bad" illegals - and quite frankly I'm sick of them. HOWEVER - there was a point made at this meeting that threw me for a loup. Before my stance was: come here and learn to speak OUR language, get a job and pay taxes - no free ride. Well a point was made at the meeting: There are a great number of "illegals" who work and get a legit pay check. However since they are illegal the money that goes to their taxes and social security is never claimed. So my question now is WHERE IS THAT MONEY??? Our government is so far n debt it's not funny. I think this is why the Feds don't care about the illegal situation because they can use them for all this extra unclaimed money andn the general public is none the wiser. Hummm I say..........hummmm. What a racket by our government. Well every great empire falls - we're next thanks to stuff like this.

Posted by: Wow on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:57 PM
"WOW!" ... all i can say it's a shame... i can't help it but to laugh and feel sorry for you. I mean you sit there and cry and cry about it and guess what... it WILL NOT change... I wish you get what you want :) but it's better to LIVE IT, LOVE IT, and LEARN IT. One day when you are really really old and your kids put you in a nursing home, maybe you will think twice about making friedns no matter what there status is because it might matter when the only person that is there it the one cleaning your room, and changing your sheets. :) C - ya around. I'M NOT MOVING TO FREMONT, I'M GOING TO STAY RIGHT HERE. :)

Posted by: RM on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:41 PM
To Wife why after 14 years is he still illegal and where did he get a SS number in order to be employed legally. Does he drive and have a legal driver license.

Posted by: M on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:39 PM
To "Wife": So, you chose a criminal over a deadbeat? You are definitely on the right track to a very successful future. Definitely seeing some good decision making skills in you.

Posted by: Eric on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:38 PM
This seems to be an issue of racism, I wonder if the citizens of Fremont forget there origins. It’s a proven FACT that immigrants improve the economy of the communities they reside. Ask yourself were do they spend their money that they earn?

Posted by: Huh on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:35 PM
To Wife, why doesn't your illegal husband of 14 years do something to try to become a legal citizen? And I've never heard of something so ignorant as to be ok with paying in taxes that you can never claim. Do it right or goodbye....

Posted by: Paul on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:35 PM
They are doing more than just the jobs nobody wants to do. They are taking the electricians, plumbers and a/c personal jobs and they hardly have a clue how to do the jobs. The corners they are cutting are putting lives in jeorpordy, but hey your cost is cheaper. And try to find them or collect from them when there is a life or property loss...good luck cause they have no insurance.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:12 PM
Now maybe all the illegals from Omaha and surrounding communities will move to Fremont.

Posted by: Hey WOW! on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:02 PM
Posted by Wow "Why don't you worry about making sure you have a good family a good job and mainly mind your on business about other people?" Uhhh, that's exactly what we are doing by fighting illegal immigration. I'm trying to support my family while my tax dollars (to the tune of $10billion a year) go to pay for you 12 million that are not supposed to be here in the first place. If your house gets robbed are you going to ignore it? Of course not. Same principle here. We as Americans are being robbed and we are doing something about it!! Don't tell us to mind our own business!!

Posted by: Vacation Mexico on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:02 PM
Annex Mexico. We solve our immigration problems, energy problems, the border is much smaller to fence with central America and we have great places to vacation at.

Posted by: Bob on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I'm getting tired of hearing "They (refering to the illigal immagrants) do the jobs no one else will do." This is a common misconception that needs to be corrected. The truth of the matter is, they do the jobs no one else will do for what they're getting paid. Most of the places that hire them do so as a source of cheap labor. This does not mean the savings are being passed on to the consumer. It means they receive a substantially larger profit margin. One way to win the battle against illegal immigrantion is to boycott businesses that hire these people. As long as it's profitable for some it will be allowed to continue.

Posted by: omaha on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:57 PM
according to Aurelio Rojas in the article “Illegal Immigration from Mexico Provides a Long-Term Benefit to the United States” in Current Controversies: Illegal Immigration, “Illegal immigrants ‘provide long-term benefits because more low wage-earners return home, and those with higher taxable income settle down in the United States” (75). As a result, many immigrants who make a decent living and have a stable financial status stay in the United States which is in turn good for our country’s economy. This means more immigrants are applying for matricula consular identification cards and requesting an ITIN from the Department of Revenue to file taxes and become tax paying citizens. Immigrants do not use as many resources as they pay in taxes. According to Chomsky in “They take our jobs!” and 20 other myths about immigration, “Immigrants, documented or undocumented, are more likely to pay taxes than they are to use public services” (40). As mentioned above, immigrants are consumers in the United States and they contribute to the economic flow that the American society participates in. Immigrants buy groceries, clothes and shoes, as well as pay a mortgage payment and utilities. Immigrants are human beings that have needs as well as wants and if they have to buy groceries or have to pay rent, then that is giving someone else money and therefore, immigrants are contributing positively to the United States economy.

Posted by: Wife on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:54 PM
To ALL: I am married to an human being who is here illegally.... before I met my husband, I was with a US citizen, who allowed his family to be on welfare, who didnt, wouldnt hold down a job, thought it was fine for the mother of his children to support the family while he was in and out of jail and on drugs, and his family STARVING!...when I finally met my illegally alien husband, he has given us a completely different life, he has held a job for the last 14 years, has raised a "legal" persons three children with grace and dignity, mean while all state and federal taxes as well as Social security taxes,have been taken out of his paycheck for 14 years, that he WILL NEVER be able to claim at retirement...please tell me the USA doesnt realize this and know that having illegal immigrants in the US is a benefit, they will NEVER give amnesty...then they would loose millions or billions of FREE "tax" dollars they take from the "illegal" workers...think about it...

Posted by: Bill on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Much ado about nothing. Trying to pass a law to enforce the law. It is a sad day indeed. I am disapointed in the Fremont government.

Posted by: Mayra on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:48 PM
i disagree with anyone who has nothing better to do than harras immigrants they dont come here to see you they come here for an opportunity to work and do right by their families all the tax money they dont collect at the end of the year the government keeps it so if anyone is doing wrong its the government for stealing money that immigrants worked so hard to earn without Mexicans employers would be out of business Mexicans are hard workers, reliable,and go the extra mile to earn a little more,and they dont complain so leave us alone!

Posted by: OMAHA on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Why is it that when people start talking about immigration..It's an automatic (Mexican) deal?? Reality is not all immigrants here are Mexicans. It might be the majority...By the way...if your so against immigration, etc...maybe next time you buy a shirt you should buy All AMERICAN..made in the USA..matter of fact is these items are much more expensive than those made elsewhere..i.e. Mexico, Guatemala, Vietnam... America--not only exploits in it's own terriroty, but in other country's what a shame

Posted by: On the fence on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I'm just not sure which way to fall on this whole ordenance. I don't want illegals here draining our system but on the other hand Fremont shouldn't be tackeling a Federal Law. If only Bob Warner would work with the State Senators to get something started and show that Fremont and other small communities need help with the illegals. The other problem with Fremont's ordenance is there was not "factual" evidence shown. Just that one councilmen didn't want illegals in Fremont. I wish Bob Warner would have done his research and found numbers from the local hospital about how many illegals leave unpaid bills, the number of gang related crimes, and so on. If he would have done this and shown this to the public the ordenance would had a better chance of passing. Again I see both sides on this issue and I think a city ordenance could have been better executed.

Posted by: Connie on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:36 PM
I applaud Fremont for trying to do something about the immigrants. You can't compare the immigrants of today with the ones of the past. The immigrants today from Mexico are not educated and expect benefits which I help pay for. The immigrants from years ago took care of themselves. So don't compare!!

Posted by: anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM
This is just a pre-courser to New World Order. Citizens would have to jump through this hoop as well to prove the live there.

Posted by: David on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:13 PM
How can this issue even be possible? We are raising four children. Which United States laws shall I tell them they are exempt from honoring? Illegals are criminals, as are their employers and people who give them shelter. This is insanity. Stop the welfare to them now.

Posted by: CM on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM
All of us are descended from immigrants. The biggest difference is that they did it the right way. There is a procedure to become a citizen and it should be followed. It's not my fault that it takes a while. So, using that logic, if the speed limit is 25 and you are in a hurry, you can do 60? In other words, break the law to get what YOU want. No thanks. There should be penalties for those who "speed." Fremont tried to but apparently there was too strong a lobby against it. Too bad. I have nothing against hard working people, regardless of where they came from...as long as they did it legally. You want to be a citizen? If it is worth having, it is worth waiting for.

Posted by: M on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Your right "WOW" and we can't get rid of the millions of dollar drug trade every year so we should ignore that too right? I don't know you, but if you are ILLEGAL, hit the bricks chief. Unless you want to invade then, let's do it chief.

Posted by: Mason on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:50 AM
To Sandra, This is a poor excuse to break the law. I happen to think USA is greatest country in the world. Go back to your country of origin if you don't like it.

Posted by: SI on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Kick them out, unless they are going thru the legal process. If they were legal citizens they would not work at the packing plants for pennies - in turn maybe prices would go up - but so would the integrity of the American way. And if no one "wanted" those jobs - maybe we could force the hand and put the low lifes sucking welfare to work - food for thought.

Posted by: M on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM
To "Historian" I'm sure the native american community was not too pleased to have the europeans come over and take over their land. Are you saying then, that we should allow just anyone to come and invade the country again, taking it from us, to make things even? The native americans put up a fight, and that is exactly what we are doing. We're just better at it.

Posted by: to phil and jeff on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM
move to fremont, we will be happy to be rid of you

Posted by: Dave on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:27 AM
It wasn't that long ago that our forefathers were immigrants to a country in which they committed cultural genocide. Read, too, the history of the America that at one time did not want Irish or Italian immigrants. And they were legal. The bottom line is they are human beings. Whether or not you are okay with them being here is irrelevant. They should be treated with dignity, even if the US sends all illegals home, wherever they came from.I also do not believe they are "taking our jobs." Perhaps some of you know someone aspiring to be a garbage collector, or work in a packing plant, or be a janitor. I don't know anyone willing to do that work. There is a solution somewhere, but treating people badly, whatever they've done, isn't the answer. Some of you Christians need to look into your hearts and ask how Jesus would treat these people.

Posted by: M on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Your right "Omaha" from NE. We shouldn't call them illegal aliens. After all they are only ALIEN to the area and here ILLEGALLY!!! Are you kidding me?!? They contribute more money to the economy than they consume? I'm sure an illegal, I'm sorry a "legally challenged non-resident" who sends their kids to public schools, receives medical care, welfare, and whatever other ridiculous, free loading government programs that they somehow get qualified for without actually paying taxes is somehow helping our economic status. There is nothing wrong with immigration. This country was founded on immigration. There is something wrong with breaking the law though. If you don't like the law, lobby to make changes to it. Right now however, the law is clear cut about coming into this country with no documentation. It is illegal to do so. Period. The only thing I don't get is how does one rent an apartment or give a job to an illegal individual without being charged with being an accessory now?

Posted by: To Omaha on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:19 AM
WHAT! You are so wrong! ILLEGAL immigrants do NOT contribute more than they consume by any standard, where are you pulling those bogus facts from? I know many families who are here illegally and the LAST thing they want is attention so they DON'T pay any income tax and most of the money they do earn is sent to support family living outside of this country. It's funny to see you fighting harder for the illegals in this country than the legal homeless who are struggling to survive everyday. Do illegals curb gang violence? NO... Do they help support our government and pay income tax like the rest of us? NO... Do they tax our healthcare, legal and welfare systems to the brink of failure? Yes... If they provide support for anything, it's the argument that we are too lax in enforcing illegal immigration laws already on the books. I am all for 'give me your huddled masses' but only if they are here legally. Any other way is a snub to this country and all it's LEGAL citizens.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Rather than fighting over this, why don't illegal immigrant supporters help them pass their citizenship test? That way, they are 100% legal?!?!?! Come on people, illegal is illegal, there is no way around it. Guess what! Thanks to kim, I bet I know where the next big raid on illegals is going to be!!!

Posted by: JJ on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:04 AM
ANON WE KNOW WHAT ILLEGAL MEANS: HOWEVER THEY ARE HELPING US EAT AT A GOOD PRICE. DOES ANYONE WANT TO PICK ORANGES FOR 14 HRS UNDER 90 DEGREES AT 2 DOLLARS A HOUR NO OVER TIME PAY? IF WE HAD A WHITE MAN DO THIS IT WOULD BE 5 OR 6 DOLLARS A HOUR PLUS OVERTIME. AS FOR ILLEGAL ALL THE WHITES WHO FIRST CAME HERE AND STOLLED THE LAND FROM THE NATIVES WERE ILLEGAL TO.

Posted by: SAD! on Jul 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM
What a shame that the Fremont city council didn't have the guts to try to curb this growing crisis. Instead they duck behind the infamous 'it's not our problem' excuse (good job, Mr. Edwards). Folks had better realize that illegal immigrants (and note I used the term ILLEGAL) are going to overburden our financial, healthcare and social infrastructures to the breaking point in just a few more years. And to those who claim that getting legal status is a lot harder than we were led to believe should remember that nothing worth having is easy or free so quit whining. And the only way to turn this into a NATIONAL concern is to start at the bottom with communities like Fremont and Omaha and work our way up. Do you think that the feds are going to listen to us when we can't even get our local leader's to stand up and fight for all of our interests? And I defy anyone to produce an argument that shows how supporting illegals benefits my community, city, state or country.

Posted by: RJ on Jul 30, 2008 at 10:51 AM
So, per the first paragraph. Fremont voted down an ordanance which would make it against the law to assist someone who is breaking the law. I think I understand. I thought it was a good idea, but, The people have spoken.

Posted by: Keith on Jul 30, 2008 at 10:48 AM
This for "No Name" who says illegals contribute more to the economy: Fine let them contribute, but do it LEGALLY!. No, I will not call them anything else than what they are - ILLEGAL. But since you don't mind people comming into our great country ILLEGALY, how about inviting one into your home. They can sleep, eat, live rent free, and do the job around your house that you don't want to do. Except for the jobs, it basicly sounds like a teenager, but anyway, you'd call the cops to get this idiot out of your house, wouldn't you? WOULDN'T YOU? You can't see the simularities??? Damn liberal. I disagree with what Fremont is trying to do because it ignores the fact that there are laws already in place to take care of the problem. They just have to be ENFORCED! Enforcing the law....what a novel concept.

Posted by: Charlie on Jul 30, 2008 at 10:37 AM
How can it be divisive and discriminatory? Those people are here IlLEGALLY, they don't have the same rights as us and never should!

Posted by: M on Jul 30, 2008 at 10:33 AM
THIS IS TO OMAHA LOCATION WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION? YOU SAY MANY DO PAY TAXES? QUESTION IS DO THEY FILE THERE INCOME TAX? THEY HAVE TAXES TAKEN OUT OF THERE CK'S WHICH ISN'T VERY MUCH BECAUSE THEY CLAIM 7 AND 8 PEOPLE THEY MIGHT BE 18 YRS OLD AND THEY HAVE 8 CHILDREN? GIVE ME A BREAK! BUT DO THE FILE AT THE END OF THE YEAR? I KNOW ALOT OF THEM DON'T BECAUSE THEY ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH A DEAD MAN'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER I'M SICK OF GIVING TO THE PEOPLE WHO ABUSE THE SYSTEM AND BELIEVE ME THEY KNOW HOW TO WORK IT. I WORK WITH ALOT OF THEM AND I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY ALL GO BACK, IF THEY WANT TO WORK HERE THEY OUGHT TO PAY WHAT THE US CITIZEN PAYS AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK OUR LANGUAGE. END OF STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!THEY MIGHT BE HUMAN BEINGS BUT THEY STILL ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 10:26 AM
I'm all for it!!!! It's people that allow them to work and rent to that instigate the problem. Like Jeff I'm not against immigration but do it legally and learn english being it's the language of OUR country. If we went to mexico to live they would expect us to learn spanish, just like they are now in our country. I refuse to learn it and my children won't either.

Posted by: Come on... on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:53 AM
we absolutely have to protect the rights, feelings & money making opportunities of the people who are here not paying taxes, receiving free education & free healthcare...oh & don't forget about the free food. Omaha would NEVER pass an ordinance like that either because the politicians would worry about not being reelected. And it has been proven that illegal’s vote in OUR elections. So absolutely we must protect THEM...

Posted by: W on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:51 AM
They could get a work permit or some other form of legal permission to stay in the country instead.

Posted by: confused on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:42 AM
I currently volunteer with a ESL program in Omaha. People say that Hispanics should learn English. The thing is that they are TRYING. They understand in order to get a better paying job, they have to do it. What holds them back, is they get made fun of when attempting to speak English. So what do they do? They go back to what is comfortable to them. I had a 60 year old grandmother who was crying because she couldn't speak English. Some of us(American born)are not very understanding how difficult it must be for someone to move to a new country and learn a new language. To Bob,..not everyone's ancestors came to America willing.

Posted by: Do it legally on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:38 AM
"if it weren't for illegal immigrants who are willing to take jobs with poor working conditions, low pay, and outrages hours we probably would be in the Great Depression now"-Posted by: Omaha Location: NE on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:38 PM The problem is that these are jobs with poor working conditions, low pay, and outragous hours because the employers have found someone who will not say anything. Those jobs would be filled by those here legally (by birth or otherwise) if they were safe and provided a fair living wage. In addition, if it's all about work, there are work visas that can be issued to cover jobs that those here legally cannot fill. There's not enough allowed you say? That's because the gov't is aware that many illegals work here already. If we got rid of the illegal immigrants they could allow for more work visas so people could be here legally and also get paid a fair living wage and work in safe conditions. There is always an option to do things legally.

Posted by: Worthless Mayor on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:37 AM
I bet that Mayor is a sure loser when he runs for re-election. Fremont ought to recall him, since he's obviously pro-criminal.

Posted by: Bill on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:05 AM
Employers and landlords need to be held liable to knowingly paying and or renting to illegal immigrants. The U.S. needs to step up.

Posted by: Willie on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:02 AM
Why doesn't Fremont vote Mr. Edwards out the next time he runs for Mayor. There is not a damn thing wrong with making someone prove they are a legal resident. Enough with people coming into this country illegally, My family came from Ireland, Gernamy and Scottland, but they did the legal way, and they learned the laws and language of the this fine country. If they want to be here, do it legally or bye-bye.

Posted by: Wow on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:59 AM
I can't believe...some people. I mean does anyone know that people are dying in a war? There is a lot of people that don't know what to do other than complaint. I mean like you can really get ride of 12 million of us. Come on...be realistic. I think people should just learn to play nice and get use to the fact that we are not going anywhere. I mean next thing you know you might want us wear a yellow star on our coats just so you guys can beware. Please. Stop thinking that you’re all high and mighty. Why don't you worry about making sure you have a good family a good job and mainly mind your on business about other people. I can't believe people in Central and South America think so highly of you guys... but people here, we know better. We also know what we are worth and again we are not going anywhere... not while there cities like New Orleans to be rebuild... oh yeah because everyone other then our people is risking their health right? Think about it. C ya around. :)

Posted by: D on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:55 AM
"If it weren't for illegal immigrants who are willing to take jobs with poor working conditions, low pay, and outrages hours we probably would be in the Great Depression now...so grow up and don't judge these innocent people that are only searching for a better life." How is that a better life in America? If poor working conditions, low pay and outrageous hours are the standard bearer for these immigrants, then we are creating a new level of poverty in this country. I lived in south O and witnessed how illegals moved in and lived on top of each other in small houses and parked their cars in the front yard. This is not reflective of the standard of living in this country. It is in Mexico, but not here. Cities like Fremont are like many others in this country. They are starting to feel the pinch of increased crime, increased social services costs, and costs involved with appeases a demographic that won't assimilate to our culture.

Posted by: T on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:48 AM
I get so tired of the argument that illegals contribute so much money to our economy, we were fine long before they came here, and we will be fine long after they leave. Why not tell the truth, much of the money they spend here is from illegal drug sells, and they also bring much crime to the area. Not all but a lot are in involved in drugs being brought into this country. Wake up America, haven't you heard about the Mexican Mafia? Or how about the M13 or whatever the heck it's called. Illegal breeds crime-Period.

Posted by: M on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:46 AM
I believe that allowing the illegal population to stay without any consequences is wrong. My family was hurt financially by this problem. They tend not to have legal driver licenses or insurance. I am not happy with the idea that the illegal population believes they are above our laws in this nation using the excuse that businesses will close. My grandfather worked packing plants all of his life. It is time for the throw away young adults to be trained for these jobs right out of high school. The idea that these jobs are all ones not wanted by US citizens is just an excuse to justify the ends. This country now demands we all be bilingual to get a job because we must cater to these people. I care about life, but what about our freedoms that our relatives long past fought for. They all came into this country legally with sponsors. It is time to close our border and take care of the failing young adults who are jobless w/no unemployment. Just crime to support them.

Posted by: Dennis on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:44 AM
I can't beleive that the city would waste anyones time bringing this up when they have no right to do anything about it. As long as the illegals learn english,purchase insurance and pay their fair share of taxes. I am ok with them being here

Posted by: Steve on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:31 AM
At least 1/2 of the city council members deserve to sit in those chairs. The mayor is not one of them. Everyone complains about illegal's, but no one wishes to take a stand. Congrat's Fremont on being part of the status quo. Another opportunity to pass the buck. We are all hurting due to the economy and high prices. It just makes good sense to support those who are sapping our local economy. This isnt aimed at hispanics, it's aimed at those who are reaching into our pockets. Think about that the next time your at the pump or on your next vacation, at home, because of high prices. Being a lemming is not going to fix our situation!

Posted by: Sandra on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:26 AM
Ok, so does anyone have any idea how long time and how much money it takes to become a "resident" citizen of the wonderful country of ours...YEARS and LOTS&LOTS OF MONEY. I know, i have experienced it. With the backload of applications, it can take up to 10 years. This ordinance is nothing but fremont trying to line their pockets with taxpayers money and take away more of our freedoms...WELCOME TO THE GREAT USA..NOT

Posted by: llr on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:18 AM
Cowards. Here was a perfect opportunity to take a stand against illegal immigration and all its drains on our society, and they cave. And Jeff, I think you mean under the radar, not the microscope.

Posted by: Darren on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:14 AM
And by the way "Omaha" - get out a dictionary! The word ALIEN in this context is absolutely appropriate: 1) n. a person who is not a citizen of the country. 2) in the United States any person born in another country to parents who are not American and who has not become a naturalized citizen.

Posted by: Scott on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:12 AM
LEARN ENGLISH!!!!

Posted by: Darren on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:10 AM
The fact of the matter is this should be an issue in front of the federal government - but unfortunately no one on Capital Hill has the guts to take it on sincerely - especially not in an election year! It is unfortunate our communities are being divided by issues our federal government should be handling.

Posted by: Juan on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:07 AM
To Omaha: You are an illegal alien apologist.

Posted by: To 11:38 on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:06 AM
Yes, studies have shown that Americans are about 1% better off with illegal immigrants. However, what you failed to mention is that this is made up of the rich and the working class. The rich are around 10-11% better off and the working class and poor are are MUCH worse off (NOTE: determined from a Harvard study). This is an irony I have always found with the Democratic party. They claim to fight for the working class. However, their actions only allow for 2 possibilities: they are actually the party for the rich or they only care about non-US citizens.

Posted by: Gunnar on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:53 AM
What is it about the word "illegal" that some people do not understand.

Posted by: Kate on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:51 AM
Doesn't the word ILLEGAL mean anything anymore.

Posted by: Grandma on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:43 AM
Isn't it a shame Mayor Donald Edwards felt it best to duck out the back door to avoid the media? I'd like to ask Edwards one question: Why did you keep it quiet that a Colorado Law Firm offered weeks ago to represent the city at "no charge" pro bono. You're not representing the legal citizens of your community and while I'm on the subject you "you" how much funding for your mayoral position has come from the meat packing industry? You're a disgrace to Fremont and Nebraska!

Posted by: resp. to post at 1138pm on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:39 AM
Illegals contribute more money than they consume??? Government estimates say they cost the US $10 billion a year! Maybe you should do some research. And breaking the law in search of a better life is OK?? That argument will stand up in court I'm sure!("I stole his identity to better myself judge, is that ok?") I love how people make themselves feel better by saying they (illegals) do all the dirty jobs for low pay that Americans don't want. That sounds like exploitation to me, but hey, whatever make you sleep at night...

Posted by: Perplexed on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:26 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but arn't these elected officials sworn to uphold the law when they take the oath of office?

Posted by: Kent on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:20 AM
Jeff in Omaha, I think you mean "under the radar", not "under the microscope".

Posted by: To Kim on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:09 AM
Kim if you pay taxes in Fremont you are paying rent, medical and schooling for illegals that pay no taxes.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:14 AM
Historian, Actually the so-called native americans displaced the people who were here before them. Learn the facts before you spread misinformation.

Posted by: Chris on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:10 AM
Are you kidding me? Doesn't illegal mean the immigrants are not supposed to be here. No wonder our taxes are so high. Some of these illegal immigrants also get government and state aid. Make them legal or send them home!

Posted by: Craig on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:03 AM
After hearing about this proposed ordinance, I thought that maybe I should take another look at Fremont as a place to raise my family. Now that I see that the government in Fremont is really not interested in enforcing existing laws, I don't think Fremont is the place to raise my family. What else can you get away with in Fremont?

Posted by: gimme-a-break on Jul 30, 2008 at 05:54 AM
WOW! imagine, opposing law-breaking discriminatory. Some people just have no reasonable thought process.... Next, opposing crime at all...... no politically correct

Posted by: Wolf on Jul 30, 2008 at 05:36 AM
The Hispanics are hard working. They do many jobs that regular citizens find it beneath themselves to do. I guess they would rather sit on their duffs and collect welfare and food vouchers. Racial profiling? The work able citizens profile themselves by doing what they do. Lets face it; Hispanics and illegal immigrants will always be a problem. Solve the problem by making it an amenesty type solution to those who are already here, and crack down on those just starting to enter the country illegally. There wont be any solutions from the federal govt. because its an election year and they want any vote they can get. Its an ongoing problem and will continue to be so.

Posted by: JAKE on Jul 30, 2008 at 04:38 AM
Bet the mayor of Fremont wont get elected for another term after his spinless showing. He should go back to Mexico with the rest of the criminals.

Posted by: Jolly on Jul 30, 2008 at 02:39 AM
Why is it that when the subject of properly documenting and knowing the whereabouts of illegal immigrants comes up, it's the Hispanics that are the only ones throwing their arms in the air? Words like racism and discrimination are passed around. But why is that? These ordinances don't name one race or nationality. They say ALL illegals. I want someone from Russia, India, Germany, Sudan, Mexico, Canada, etc to enter this country the right way. Why is that so much to ask? Especially in these times when our national security should still be a priority. Why is it so wrong to want to know who is here, where they're at or where they came from? The language is another issue, but why am I called a racist when I think people should know english if they want to live here? This is a country built on immigration. People from all over the world. People that all chose and learned to speak english. Why are Hispanics catered to this much?

Posted by: phil on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:50 AM
Why dont you offer them welfare while your at it. The council needs to get a backbone and get rid of illegals. That is not discrimination. They did it in Arizona and drove them out do it everywhere!

Posted by: Jeff on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I support what is goimg on im fremont,I wish they would do it here in Omaha.Granted I'm not against immigration,but as long as its done legally and english is learned-im all for it.But if you come here illegally,stay here under the microscope for years,make money and not learn english i agree-its time for you to go!!!

Posted by: anon on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:43 PM
We're glad you left too. Kim I agree with you 100%. Fremont isn't trying to get rid of Hispanics, they are trying to get rid of ILLEGAL immigrants...people who are in this country illegally. I understand that it is a touchy subject when dealing with race regardless of whether they are legal or illegal but I think people need to put this into perspective.

Posted by: Fremont Resident on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:43 PM
As a member of the Fremont community I have actually read the ordinance. It does nothing but assist the Federal government by making the city (via an application for an occupancy license -which everyone can get so long as they fill out the form and pay the fee)report those who do not not declare to be a US citizen or national. It does not prevent anyone from getting the license regardless of their status. It only gives the information (of those who don't declare) to the Federal government so that they can decide if the person is legal or not and act accordingly. The same thing concerning employment. It requires employers to work within the framework of the rules of the Federal government by checking status via their website(s). Fremont is not overstepping their bounds. We're just standing up and saying we will no longer be a safe haven and not report. It's still up to the Federal government to act on the status of an illegal.

Posted by: Omaha on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Believe it or not, illegal immigrants contribute more money to the economy than they consume. Many do pay taxes, using an ITIN #. Do the research before you judge. One more thing, if it weren't for illegal immigrants who are willing to take jobs with poor working conditions, low pay, and outrages hours we probably would be in the Great Depression now...so grow up and don't judge these innocent people that are only searching for a better life. One more thing..please don't call them illegal aliens. They are human beings!!

Posted by: Bob S on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:31 PM
I think this proposal is the right thing to do. I understand that these people are here for the American dream but you have to pursue this dream LEGALLY!! Wouldn’t it be considered DISCRIMINATION if we said it was okay to commit the following crimes ONLY if you are Hispanic. 1: Identity theft. 2: Tax fraud. 3: Tax evasion. 4: Invading our country, entering illegally If the above are no longer laws that are to be enforced shouldn’t we release ALL people in prison for these offenses? Oh and do I dare say anything about the security of our nation or have we forgotten how our arrogance allowed terrorist to do what they did on 9/11/01. When our relatives entered this country they did it legally and enjoyed all this great country has to offer. There are laws in place and they need to be enforced. Anyone wanting to enter this country needs to follow the rules, plain and simple. I am pretty sure that if you wanted to relocate to another country you would have to do the same.

Posted by: Historian on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:11 PM
I'm sure the Native American communities feel the same way about European Explorers.

Posted by: to kim on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:08 PM
We are not giving them housing. We are letting them work at the packing plant Hormel where they slice and dice hogs. This is a job that people do not want to do anymore. Plus Hormel can pay less to these workers and stay competitive in a global market. If they pay their workers 15 dollars an hour for line jobs the plant will shut down and move out of Fremont. Is that what Fremont wants?

Posted by: Anon on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:07 PM
This should be no debate, illegal means illegal. Guess if you don't understand English, then you might be confused!

Posted by: From Fremont on Jul 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM
This is so typical of Fremont. This is a town with the haves and have nots. There is now a new group of people who the have nots are putting below themselves. You do not see the white collar people or large business owners coming out for this it is the blue collar people they think I finally have someone who I can pick on. This town is so sad and so typical of many small towns. I echo the sentiments of many who used to live there when I say I am so glad I left.

Posted by: Kim on Jul 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM
I don't understand why we do ANYTHING for illegal immigrants. If they are ILLEGAL they need to be removed. They should not be given jobs or homes. Why was this ever allowed in the first place? Why do we try to protect these type of people?

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