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  • Stop Sign Runners Being Watched, Ticketed Save Email Print
    Detour diverts traffic through neighborhood
    Posted: 10:18 PM May 19, 2008
    Last Updated: 11:26 PM May 19, 2008
    Email Address: sixonline@wowt.com

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    A closed street is funneling traffic through a neighborhood where drivers seem to be ignoring the many stop signs along the way. It has not gone unnoticed.

    It's another headache created by the detour south of 168th and Harrison where a bridge is being replaced.

    There's a stop sign on Larry Donnelson's corner, but whether drivers obey it is never a sure thing. “Sometime they go through here like there's no stop sign at all."

    In less than a mile on Timberlane Drive, drivers must stop at three stop signs. An SUV didn't, rolling right on through, but the driver will stop for flashing lights because Sarpy County Deputy Kevin Jones has been watching and will write a ticket for running the stop sign. “A lot of them just say that they didn't see it or weren't paying attention."

    In less than three weeks, Sarpy County Sheriff's deputies have stopped 100 drivers along Timberlane Drive with 84 ticketed for running the stop signs. Deputies say they're being lenient, not writing tickets for the so-called “California stops,” but the blatant stop sign runners are being cited.

    Neighbors say it's not safe to cross the street assuming drivers will stop at the stop signs. “The stop signs are there for a reason, that's to stop and there are so many who do not do that,” says resident Larry Leinbaugh. “They just slide on through. They slow down a little bit and then zoom."

    Deputy Jones sits at the top of a hill where he can see if drivers stop. Residents welcome the special attention. "I offer them coffee or anything else they want to drink," says Donnelson. "I like them here. I really do."

    Sarpy County deputies will continue giving Timberlane Drive special attention, at least until 168th Street reopens south of Harrison.

    A ticket for running a stop sign is generally $25 plus court costs.

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    Posted by: Joel on May 29, 2008 at 10:37 PM
    These people who like having THEIR neighborhood watched kill me! They are the same people who drive like a Bat out of H^%# in my neighborhood. Solution, drive likes you live there! Joel

    Posted by: Jim on May 22, 2008 at 08:33 AM
    Good for you Mary O! I understood your story first time through. I've been in plenty of bigger cities as TN mentions and they do not make Omaha look like a cakewalk. I agree with TN that Omaha is pretty conservative but LAWS of the people by the people apply to everyone. I hope TN is never T-boned at an intersection like my sister was by a stop sign runner.

    Posted by: Mary O. on May 21, 2008 at 09:39 PM
    TN: Apparently I'm not very good at describing a scene. I was driving south on 54th St between Hascall and Grover Sts heading toward Grover. A driver in front of me was heading east from a Cedar Heights parking lot, getting ready to turn right (south), which would be pulling out in front of me. Again, the driver should have at the very least slowed down and looked north toward my direction to see if it was safe for her to turn south. If this is still unclear, you are free to visit the neighborhood for yourself.

    Posted by: Joe on May 21, 2008 at 04:41 PM
    Speeders will also slow down when you start shooting there cars with paintball guns for driving through a neighborhood too fast. As far as the Sarpy county deputies, Thats why we live here. Less crime, Better cops, better schools. Come south to the good life, just don't speed.

    Posted by: Biff on May 21, 2008 at 04:28 PM
    RM, whether it's OK with them is irrelevant - law-abiding citizens KNOW that you're supposed to come to a complete stop. Not getting caught does not equate to "it's OK to do this".

    Posted by: RM on May 21, 2008 at 02:29 PM
    Hey Anonymous the article said the sheriffs department was being lenient on California stops which means to me slowing down and looking both ways and proceeding without coming to a complete stop is ok with them.

    Posted by: Anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 11:49 AM
    RM You misunderstood. When you are in Sarpy County you need to come to a COMPLETE STOP just like you should every place else there is a stop sign. Unless you like paying tickets. Thank you Sarpy County for the great job you are doing.

    Posted by: TN on May 21, 2008 at 08:16 AM
    Hey Mary O. In case you didn't know if you have the 3 cars on your side of the street, you are to yeild to the oncoming traffic until it is safe to cross over into their lane. I am tired of everyone in Omaha getting MAD about people's driving habbits! I would love to ask these people if they have ever been out of town. Go visit Chicago, New York, Houston, OH you want some smaller towns, try any prgressive non conservative place that isn't afraid of change. This traffic isn't anything.

    Posted by: Mary O. on May 20, 2008 at 10:22 PM
    "A" neighborhood where drivers "seem to be" ignoring stop signs? Try in "most" neighborhoods drivers "are" ignoring stop signs. What I've learned from stop sign runners: 1) to watch my rearview mirror as I stop because there are a lot of antsy people on my bumper w/nasty looks on their faces as if I'm the one breaking the law; 2) most people who pull out in front of me are suddenly in no hurry once they've turned & I'm behind them; 3) how surprised I am when someone actually stops on a side street & lets me continue driving; 4) to never assume the driver on the side street is paying attn. Case in point: Sunday as I was driving south on a street w/3 cars parked along the west curb, I saw a car come flying through an apt complex parking lot from the west. Her exit was just in front of the 1st parked car, so I assumed she could not see me w/3 cars blocking her view. I slowed down. She continued at the same rate of speed & never looked my direction. If I hadn't slowed, she would have hit me

    Posted by: TJ on May 20, 2008 at 10:04 PM
    Signs are merely an inconvenience for people nowadays. Its pathetic that they are in such a hurry that they cannot stop for a moment to make sure things are clear. I was working behind the Devaney Center taking out a road. There were two barracades with "ROAD CLOSED" and you know, people STILL drove through the barracades just to see if the signs were lying to them. They werent.

    Posted by: Keith G on May 20, 2008 at 08:15 PM
    The sad part of it all is all the obeying of traffic signs is based on an honor system. Yes, your honor, No your honor. The driving habits are going to pot and getting worse. besides the tail lights being out, incorrect use of turn signals (I'm not a mind reader - but I play one on Omaha streets!) blowing through stop signs and signal lights, I've seen illegal lane changes on the freeway - so close to my car that if they should they lose control I'd be dead meat too! And speed limits? Do they even exist? Fines need to be readjusted so it becomes time well spent by the officer and city. Instead of sending the money to the schools (which get enough anyway) put it back into getting more police officers!

    Posted by: The Original Cop on May 20, 2008 at 03:47 PM
    "Mini OC" is correct the fine is $75 plus court costs which in Douglas County is $44 dollars. So $119 plus the time lost for being stopped because you can't wait a few seconds by coming to a complete stop. Ed- I'm with you in your frustration about people being the second, third, or even fourth car turning through a red arrow. It has nothing to do with Sarpy having the book on enforcement, it has to do with prioritizing law enforcement in the city of Omaha. Do you remember that we are still 100 officers down from our authorized strength? With that in mind the traffic unit which concentrates on this kind of stuff is busy with accident investigations, events at the Qwest, parades etc., and have been working on other grant assignments they have received money for. They have done grant assignments in the past dealing with the problem you are concerned about and I'm sure they will again.

    Posted by: RM on May 20, 2008 at 02:56 PM
    So if I'm in Sarpy County I don't need come to a complete stop at stop signs just slow down a roll slowly through it?

    Posted by: Biff on May 20, 2008 at 02:10 PM
    Bob - the problem is that a "California stop" is NOT a stop!! So what you're saying is that you'll only obey the law when someone's watching? Nice. People who eat cheeseburgers, yak on phones, put on makeup, and read the paper while driving probably think they're being careful, too. Just take the extra second or two to apply your brakes and stop completely. It's not that hard - really, you can do it, and the rest of us will thank you for it.

    Posted by: Bob on May 20, 2008 at 01:24 PM
    What is the major crime with Califonia stops? I do them all the time but I am very cautious. If there are not other vehicles aproaching the other stop signs, it is just a waste of time.

    Posted by: Mike on May 20, 2008 at 01:08 PM
    I agreeed with Ed and Jim comments. I wish all the polices department start doing their jobs which they are suppose to do something when they see the driver doing the wrong things. I have seen alot of drivers and truck drivers running thru a red light everywhere, everydays on turning left or right or straight. Does all the drivers took Drive Education course? Or they simply ingored it and make their own rules when they drive! It time for a changes on the drivers habits and start using theirs heads to do the right way and less accident at every intersections. Why would all the drivers want to run thru the lights? There must be a really good reasons why all drivers love to run thru the lights!

    Posted by: Biff on May 20, 2008 at 12:15 PM
    I agree with those who are giving kudos to Sarpy County and want Douglas Co. and OPD to step up their efforts on enforcing traffic laws. Jim - I see what you see every day when I take my kids to school. Most of the time, the idiots in the parking lots are over 21, and in theory should know better and be inclined to set the good example, NOT show their kids what they're not supposed to do.

    Posted by: Ed on May 20, 2008 at 11:34 AM
    I hope the OPD can take a page from Sarpy's book and start to go after people who go through the turn lights afer the arrow has ended --- especially 90th and Dodge. I use this intersection every workday and there is always 2-3 people turning after the arrow has turned red

    Posted by: Anonymous on May 20, 2008 at 11:19 AM
    Theres a city in Germany that took down all of their street signs in their downtown area and it actually decreased the accidents. Because there are no signs it is a 'free for all'. Since no one knows what the other driver is going to do they drive slow and cautiously.

    Posted by: Justin on May 20, 2008 at 09:39 AM
    They are going to be giving this special attention until the bridge is repaired? I'm not saying it's not worth giving special attention to, but the bridge isn't even scheduled to be completed until October...which really means hopefully by Thanksgiving. It's not like they are building an overpass...why does this bridge, which isn't even that long...take so long to repair/replace? The one on Bob Boozer only took half the time that this one is scheduled for, and they are about the same size.

    Posted by: John on May 20, 2008 at 09:33 AM
    I see that we have these mini grants for DUI's, and young drivers and MIP's but I think we should have an assignment gearing towards the reckless motorcycles. I have heard so many loud bikes and motorcylists doing wheelies up and down 72nd St. They seem to have free reign of our streets.

    Posted by: Bill on May 20, 2008 at 06:59 AM
    I wish something would be done to the people that ignore the stop sign at 14th and Deer Park. 95% of the cars roll right through it. I have compalined to the police, but it doesn't do any good. The way people ingnore traffic signs in this town, the city might as well take them down and re-cycle them into something more useful.

    Posted by: Jim on May 20, 2008 at 06:54 AM
    I'm glad to hear that deputies are paying attention to this matter. I think the phrase California stop should be changed to Omaha stop. I've never seen a town with such disregard for stop signs. And, it's not just kids either. Many times it's moms and dads with kids in the car. What message does this send to those youngsters? Rules are for other people?

    Posted by: Fake Name on May 20, 2008 at 02:25 AM
    Way to go Sarpy County! Funny how there's a strong police presence south of Harrison, but God forbid you see Douglas County deputies in the same area, north of Harrison.

    Posted by: dizzleB on May 20, 2008 at 01:56 AM
    Good Job Sarpy!!!! People need a reality check when it come to this stuff and I thank you for enforcing the law, this is for sure a safe and effective way to to keep the neighborhood safe. Lets keep it up and there will not be anything in the news about a little one hurt or killed for someone running this stop sign.

    Posted by: Mini Original Cop on May 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM
    Great job reporting this WOWT. Like usual you're fact checking skills are impeccable. Last time I checked though the fine for Failure to Obey a stop sign is $75 plus court costs. Keep up the great work!

    Posted by: Jeff on May 19, 2008 at 10:24 PM
    I use Timberlane everyday. I also was one of those 84 people ticketed. The sheriff that day was not lenient. He gave me a ticket. And the cost of the ticket is $118.00 which includes court cost. Or you can take the Sarpy County Safety Program for $98.00. I think it is good they are doing this though. There is alot of people that don't even come close to stopping. I now come to a complete stop every time now.

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