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  • Family Pays For State Error Save Email Print
    Dispute over food stamps cuts into tax refund
    Posted: 10:21 PM Mar 24, 2008
    Last Updated: 11:11 AM Mar 25, 2008
    Reporter: Mike McKnight
    Email Address: sixonline@wowt.com

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    An Omaha family and the state of Nebraska are at odds over the deduction of $1,640 from their tax refund to pay for a mistake made by the state.

    For a year, taxpayers helped the Dowtys put food on the table. Now the state has taken a big bite out of their tax refund check to repay the assistance.

    "It wasn't my error,” says Annette Dowty. “I didn't lie on the food stamp application."

    Annette reported being a full-time student not eligible for food stamps more than a year ago, but her caseworker counted her in the family's application. An administrative error, yet the state demanded the Dowtys repay $1,640 in public assistance.

    Nebraska Health and Human Service approved monthly food stamp payments until the mistake was caught a year later.

    “The federal government and their rules are very clear that no matter how that error occurs if it in fact results in an overpayment we have to take actions in order to collect that overpayment from the individual," says Todd Landry, director of Children and Family Services.

    Administrators say the error their staff made is rare. Nebraska ranks second nationally in the fewest number of mistakes in the Food Stamp Program. In its letter to the Dowtys, Health and Human Services admits the agency failed to act on information month after month.

    “The state should have swallowed it,” says Annette. “I shouldn't have to pay the state back for their error.”

    “It's not that we didn't want to pay it back, we couldn't afford to," says Annette’s husband. Living paycheck to paycheck, the Dowtys say they had to ignore a Health and Human Services offer for a payment plan.

    So as a last resort, the state took $1,640 out of their tax refund. About 52,000 Nebraska families receive food stamp assistance, which is now a debit card system. That adds up to nearly $11 million distributed across the state every month. Payment errors amount to less than 2 percent of that.

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    Posted by: TO Annette on Apr 5, 2008 at 07:44 PM
    You may seem to think that this is wrong but that is how tax payers feel about people who abuse the system. Buck up and realize this isn't all about you it is about the people who really need the help. You think that you shouldn't have to pay it back you are wrong it was never yours no matter who's fault it was. You recieved it and so you should pay it back. And you had to have agreed to allow your children to be drug into this. I could never imagine calling a television station and tell everyone how poor I am and that I couldn't take care of my children. Do you realize what kind of harassment your children will go thru at school because of what you have done? Think about it!!!

    Posted by: Annette Location: Omaha on Mar 31, 2008 at 10:30 AM
    So with four in the household we didn't qualify for food stamps, and how the heck was I suppose to know that. That is the case workers job to know that and then to let me know if we qualify or not. If we didn't qualify, fine then, I wouldn't of had a problem with it. But for the caseworker to be negligent and us to pay is not fair. We didn't play the system, we went about it honestly, the system played us and that is what we were upset about. I wish Mike would have clarified this better in the story, because they way it was reported he states that we did know, when we had no clue. I fill out the paperwork for state aid honestly and assume the caseworker knows what she is doing and end paying in the end for it. A lesson learned. Don't count on the state for aid. We didn't exploit our children either, it was Mikes idea to put them on. To show we are a family. We will just keep eating our mac/cheese, pbj, and ramen noodles and struggling to survive, because that is what we do.

    Posted by: Annette Location: Omaha on Mar 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM
    I have read all your comments and now it is my turn. Do you really think I would ask Mike to do a story on this if I knew I had made the error. I am not a cheat or liar. This was a State error. I reported on the states food stamp forms correctly what I was to report. I had no clue we didn't qualify, and I guess my case worker didn't either. It wasn't until a year later when I called to speak with my case workers supervisor about a medical bill/medicaid coverage that the supervisor reviewed my case and caught the error. This was an error made by my caseworker. I said we were a family of 5, but me, being a student at the time didn't qualify in the household for the foodstamps. Most of you who jump to judge here have never had to deal with the system and how it works. It is based on income and how many in the household. When they lowered our household to 4 instead of 5 that lowered the income allowed for food stamps. We were right on the edge of the bracket, (con't in next post)

    Posted by: Brian on Mar 28, 2008 at 05:52 PM
    52,000 FAMILIES RECEIVE FOOD STAMPS???Unbelievable.

    Posted by: Someone else who knows Location: omaha on Mar 27, 2008 at 08:52 PM
    I too know this family. And yes I agree they do know how to play the system. I am sorry those children have to go thru this! They are just crying because they finally got caught. I personally believe that they should become ineligable to get government assistance after this.

    Posted by: Tim M on Mar 27, 2008 at 06:48 PM
    I'm willing to give these people the benefit of the doubt and say they didn't know they were given too much for food stamps. However, once they were made aware of this, they should have felt obligated to pay back what they didn't deserve. Even if they just said to the government, "Look, we're really down on our luck right now. So we can only afford to pay back $10 a month". At least it would have been an effort. But if they didn't even try to pay back anything...Then my sympathy goes out the window.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 27, 2008 at 04:15 PM
    Maybe we should change the title of the story to Family Pays Back a Loan with no Interest!

    Posted by: someone who knows Location: Omaha on Mar 27, 2008 at 01:34 PM
    Chris you do not know these people I do and most of these comments hit the nail right on the head. There are many people who actually need help. Then there are those who know how to play the system to benefit themselves. The Dowty's have done this over and over. They knew exactly what they were doing. They did know they shouldn't be getting the food stamps. They just took them and ran. Lets give the money to those who truelly need to be helped.

    Posted by: B Location: SW Omaha on Mar 26, 2008 at 10:17 PM
    There are many unknown facts that the public was not made aware of. The Dowty's knew exactly what they were doing. They were given the opportunity to pay and they assumed if they said they didn't have the money the state would not be able to get it. The old adage you can't get blood out of a turnip. It did not work the way they planned so they decided to play on the sympathy of the public. It looks like it backfired. These people have conned many others before and after the state. It is nice to see they did not get by with it this time.

    Posted by: Chris Location: LV on Mar 26, 2008 at 09:41 PM
    Forecast for Omaha: it's raining ignoramuses. If the posts on this page represent the average reasoning power of an Omaha citizen, the city is brain dead. Let's see, the state admitted it made the error and failed to catch the error month after month. The state did not accuse the Dowtys of lying, and they had no way to know they received an overpayment. Nowhere did the family say they didn't need the help. Yet, some people think it's funny to post lies about poor people, and many others joined the bandwagon of lies. "Hey, let's all go down to a homeless shelter and taunt the bums with cash!" I know which side the imbeciles are on.

    Posted by: an innocent by stander Location: nebraska on Mar 26, 2008 at 01:25 PM
    its kinda of nice that people can lie to get state help or not do anything bout a mistake that they sure did know about and then there is other poeple who do need the help and cant get it because of people like this. at least i know why me and my children never got help because our help was given to these people. they need to think bout that for once.

    Posted by: Lynnett on Mar 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM
    I worked for NHHS Public Asst office in Omaha for 3 yrs. On the application it states what'll happen if an overpayment occurs. By signing the application the applicant is stating that he/she read the disclosure & undersatnds. See http://www.hhs.state.ne.us/fia/EA-117.pdf on pg 24. It does not say whose fault it is, but that if the overpayment occurs, collection may happen. Yes, they always give the option to collect thru current FS payments or monthly payments from non-eligible households. Also note that just because she is in school she is not ineligible for that reason alone. Something is missing in this story. Actually she cannot be removed from the household just because she goes to school F-T, but could be for failing to comply w/ child enforcement or other type of sanction. For going to school more than half-time make her exempt from work requirements (see Title 475 FSP Regs 3-001.04A). She should technically still eligible for full benefits w/o income changes such as increase.

    Posted by: It's about time 2 on Mar 25, 2008 at 11:25 PM
    Maybe the Stat needs to take a closer look at the Dowty's and see what other Lies/errors were made.

    Posted by: Merri Location: Lincoln,NE on Mar 25, 2008 at 11:05 PM
    Family Pays for State Error, is rediculous in that they reported required information and should not be held liable for a Worker's miscalculations and had the error resulted in a shortage to this family I'm sure they would never know a thing about it. Seems the State needs to re-educate their staff and return the Tax Refund that was taken from this family.. I know of other families that similar things have happened to more than once in the last 11yrs, while our household is fortunate in that we don't need assistance and too many cases where persons abuse the system but when the client has reported correctly and trusts their worker is doing their job why should that family pay for someone else's error. This is the most absurd thing and it's time someone start rechecking calculations on these cases before assistance is made available to avoid the time and cost of notifying clients after the fact and dealing with collecting the over-payment made.

    Posted by: Kim Location: Ralston on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:47 PM
    It is so sad the way the children were exploited. They have to go to school and face their classmates. Did they really need to be on TV too or were they staged to benefit the Dowtys. Leave the children out of it. They did not need the children to state their side of the story. They worry about getting enough refund back to feed their kids what about protecting them from the negative publicity this is giving their family. Very sad indeed. You could see that the whole thing was very planned and was being acted out. It is just too bad the Dowtys felt the need to drag their kids into their battle with the state.

    Posted by: Mary O. Location: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:17 PM
    Without knowing all of the facts, some that might change the following response, my first response is that if Annette knew she wasn't eligible for food stamps but accepted them anyway, it was her duty to report the error when she started receiving them.

    Posted by: J Location: Bennington on Mar 25, 2008 at 08:30 PM
    To Sandra in Papillion: No one is complaining about the legitimate users of state aid, such as yourself. If someone, month after month, gave you money you knew you didn't deserve, would you speak up or keep your mouth shut? If the latter, what does that teach your children? If the latter, what other single mother of 2 isn't getting the assistance she needs because the money was diverted? To complain publicly that you received money that you knew wasn't yours, that you refused to pay it back and that the State had found a way to recoup it seems to be pretty trashy behavior. That was the substance of the comments. (And yes, I do support local charities for Food Pantries, Salvation Army, Siena/Francis House and the like, you're welcome.)

    Posted by: It's about time Location: Nebraska on Mar 25, 2008 at 05:47 PM
    Hallulia! Finally they know how rest of feel. This family has been cheating the world for years. Pay your own bills PLEASE! We have too.

    Posted by: Ken Location: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 05:42 PM
    Taxpayer - Your analogy is bogus. You may be smart, but you've demonstrated your ignorance. When you overpay income taxes, you have an expectation and the government has an obligation that the excess is repaid to you. Similarly, when you underpay your income taxes, the government has an expectation and you have an obligation that you pay the underage to the government. However, when you receive food stamps, you have an expectation that the amount you're given is accurate, while the government saddles you with the obligation to pay back any overage. Of course, any underage is retained by the government and not given to the family. You see? It doesn't work both ways. Do you know if you make a mistake on your taxes in the government’s favor, you only have seven years to submit a correction and get your money? However, if you make a mistake in your favor, there is no statute of limitations on the government coming to get their money. Once again, it doesn't work both ways.

    Posted by: Sandra Location: Papillion on Mar 25, 2008 at 04:18 PM
    Come on people get real. "HARD WORKING TAX PAYERS", i too receive assistance and am a hard working single mother of 2, that deserve decent food on their table. Charity is suppose to start at home, think about that the next time you sit down to write that "tax-deductible" check for the poor kids around the rest of the world. It is ok if you support them with this, but not the kids here in the United states. Ignorance stops with education. EDUCATE YOURSELVES!!!!

    Posted by: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 03:55 PM
    Look at it from the other side of things, Ms. Dowty: you overpaid your taxes. Otherwise you would not be getting a refund. Do you think the state should have to repay you for that mistake, or should the Dept. of Revenue not issue tax refunds? You see? It works both ways. They made a mistake, they overpaid; you overpaid your taxes. They expect a refund; you expect a refund. Apparently the amount the state is due is less than the amount you are due, so take the remainder of your refund and consider it a fair deal.

    Posted by: Gary Location: Bellevue on Mar 25, 2008 at 03:41 PM
    It's funny how willing you all are to slap it to the Dowty's over this small amount. How many people on welfare are sucking it up that shouldn't be? Buying steak and lobster on welfare and then whipping out a handful of cash to buy dvd's and other non-essential items. I see it all the time. Why don't we have anger over that? The system is broken because we have too many bleeding hearts that think we have to support everyone without asking for anything in return. Prove legal status, prove actual job interviews, something for our tax dollars that we so easily give out to undeserving individuals. Wake up!

    Posted by: sara Location: bellevue on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:57 PM
    Obviously the state tired to work out a plan for the repayment they diddin't want to take it all at once but the family left them no other choice they could have made payment arrangments but as they said they coulden't afford too they knew they owed this money it's not like it came as a surprise the state of nebraska should not have to swallow it because the money does not come out of thin air it comes out of the taxpayers pocket if you take money that your not owed you have to pay it back pure and simple

    Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:33 PM
    Becky- would it be alright if someone took something from you knowing it didn't belong to them? Where I come from, that is called theft. Luckily the state found an appropriate way to get paid back.

    Posted by: Little Ole Me Location: Eating the lunch I paid for on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:13 PM
    I was excited to post a reply to this story, til' I saw everyone else had the Dowty's figured out already. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA DOWTY'S!!!!!!! I work one full, and 3 PT jobs to live in my house, and put food on my table.. They bought Groceries and "extras for the kids" off of money that methinks they KNEW they didn't deserve. If they are getting a refund back, then I think it is fair game to recoup ill-gotten gains. GO STATE!!!!

    Posted by: No More Mr. Nice Guy Location: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:09 PM
    To Becky: No one is penalizing the family for needing help, although, now that you mention it, having families pay back some of the assistance might not be such a bad idea afterall. That would certainly remove the sense of entitlement that some people, like the Dowtys, embrace. But again, Becky, the point is that the department that made is error is a government agency, funded by...drumroll please...taypayers! I commend your compassion. Perhaps you like to cut out the middle man and drop off a check for $1640. The Dowtys seem like they are good for it....

    Posted by: omahan Location: omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:09 PM
    to becky. okay u think they should be able to keep the money due to an error. it was an error, but it was not rightfully their money, now we have to foot the bill for someone who's is to lazy and cheap to pay back what wasnt theirs to begin with. if u think they dont have to pay becky, then go over to them and give them $ 1600 and call it a mistake.

    Posted by: RM Location: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 01:40 PM
    They used tax payer money that they wernt due the state and the Dowtys should have been able to work out a payment schedule. Just because an employee with the state makes a mistake all the tax payers should not have to pay.

    Posted by: Shady! Location: Nebraska on Mar 25, 2008 at 01:19 PM
    I know this family and this story did not surprise me at all. Go figure, you get an overpayment, which you know is an overpayment, then you don't think you should have to pay it back. Talk about taking advantage of State Aid and then complaining about it when you get caught. Pathetic!! TALK ABOUT GREEDY!!!! I don't care who's error it is. I am glad that the state made them pay the money back. Maybe now they won't walk around like they are better than everyone else. They got what they deserved. I think the State should have charged them interest since the Dowtys CHOSE to ignore the letters from the State. Karma always comes back to get you!!

    Posted by: Becky Location: Bellevue, Ne on Mar 25, 2008 at 12:19 PM
    The family should not be penalized when they needed the help. If the percentages of error in these cases are so minimal, then the department responsible for the error should have to absorb their error.

    Posted by: Bertha Location: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 12:12 PM
    Maybe Annette or her husband should get a part time job or two to make ends meet. Do the Dowty's want the State Of Nebraska to look any further into their lives? How embarrassing for the children to be put on the news. I feel it is very selfish of the parents. Also, how did Annnette pay for school? Stop complaining and move on.

    Posted by: N.S. Location: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 12:00 PM
    The state should have to swallow it? Does Mrs. Dowty think that the state is independently wealthy? It's easy to take a debit card to HyVee and buy groceries with magic money, but since taxpayers foot the bills for the state, there is no having "the state swallow it." It wasn't the Dowty's mistake - true enough, but it wasn't ours either and we didn't spend the mistake. And $11 million dollars a month for assistance? Maybe more families should be kicking back a little of that refund to help support themselves.

    Posted by: Liar liar Location: Lincoln on Mar 25, 2008 at 11:58 AM
    The husband says they would have paid it back if they could have. This was their chance to pay it back and now they say they should not have to. What else are they not telling the truth about?

    Posted by: Good Point! on Mar 25, 2008 at 09:59 AM
    "Taxpayer" You could have not explained that in more perfect way! Great example!

    Posted by: JJ Location: OMAHA on Mar 25, 2008 at 09:19 AM
    TO BAD,WE ALL HAVE TO PAY,IF THE STATE IS WRONG FINE,BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS ON FOOD STAMPS DOES NOT GIVEN THE RIGHT NOT TO PAY,WE ARE GETTING POOR BECAUSE OF ALL THE CHARITY OUT THERE, GIVE THE STATE IT'S DUE,I DO WE CALL IT INCOME TAX,PROPERTY TAX,AND SALES TAX.

    Posted by: Givemeabreak Location: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 09:13 AM
    This is just too much. The Dowty's are complaining, no are WHINING!!!, because they stole money from the state knowing it was a mistake and now the state took it back from their Tax Refund. Ms Dowty says she shouldn't have to pay the state back for their mistake. You knew it was a mistake but keep taking and taking AND YOU OWE US HARD WORKING TAX PAYERS. So you and your husband need to sit down and eat what the state took back from you as you sat there and ate what you knew was not yours to take.

    Posted by: tired of footing the bill Location: omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 08:16 AM
    At least they are getting a refund. My husband and I have very modest salaries to pay our student loans, mortgage, and other obligations and are paying a chunk of taxes in. If we had children, bingo, we'd have deductions. Seems silly to me. Perhaps those receiving govt assistance should have their tax refunds reduced to cover some of the assistance us taxpayers provide?

    Posted by: c on Mar 25, 2008 at 08:08 AM
    As you eat Steak I eat romain noodles!!!! shut up and pay it back... another famly could have used those all last year.....unbeleviable!!!!!

    Posted by: Will Location: West O. on Mar 25, 2008 at 07:55 AM
    "Nebraska ranks second nationally in the fewest number of mistakes in the Food Stamp Program." This is a made up feel good number! I have worked at grocery stores for years. All a debit card holder does is bring another ineligible person with them to shop and sell off $50 worth for $75. A new twist on an old game. Meanwhile, many buy their cigarettes,booze, and hot food with a fat load of cash. Nebraska your system is broken and you are clueless as usual.

    Posted by: D Location: Omaha, NE on Mar 25, 2008 at 07:18 AM
    This makes you wonder how many other administrative mistakes have happened out there with our tax dollars. I believe that some people really do need food stamps and state help. There are some who just take advantage and make it bad for the rest who do need the extra help. I am not saying these people took complete advantage but it still makes them bad/guilty.

    Posted by: kevin Location: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 04:58 AM
    Just another example of someone knowingly doing wrong but not wanting to pay up . I say if she doesn't pay up put her in jail

    Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 25, 2008 at 03:36 AM
    Karen, please tell us where you learned that the Dowtys didn't need food stamps. It's certainly not in this story, so where?

    Posted by: Taxpayer like you Location: Omaha on Mar 25, 2008 at 01:00 AM
    Look at it from the other side of things, Ms. Dowty: you overpaid your taxes. Otherwise you would not be getting a refund. Do you think the state should have to repay you for that mistake, or should the Dept. of Revenue not issue tax refunds? You see? It works both ways. They made a mistake, they overpaid; you overpaid your taxes. They expect a refund; you expect a refund. Apparently the amount the state is due is less than the amount you are due, so take the remainder of your refund and consider it a fair deal.

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: Nebraska on Mar 24, 2008 at 11:40 PM
    It states that if there is an overpayment for whatever reason the person receiving the state help is responsible for paying it back. If she knew that she should not be eligible then she could have spoke up about it. But why do that when you're getting a free ride? This is not a big deal, she was in the wrong and had to pay for it.

    Posted by: karen Location: papillion on Mar 24, 2008 at 11:03 PM
    Since "they had to ignore a Health & Human Services offer for repayment" apparently they thought they could just walk away from it. If they didnt want the food stamps, they should never have spent any of the money they received monthly, since they said they didnt need it anyways. You should have turned around each month & given the food stamps back instead of profit from them. You didnt need them, you used them, so you need to pay us taxpayers back for them. PLAIN & SIMPLE

    Posted by: DB on Mar 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM
    I'm sorry. But just because somebody makes a mistake doesn't mean you get to profit from it. Even if it was an honest mistake. I think if you had made a good faith effort to repay the money in some kind of installment, the government would not have been forced to deduct it from the income taxes.

    Posted by: J Location: Bennington on Mar 24, 2008 at 10:33 PM
    I'm sure that the Dowtys were in touch monthly about the overpayment in food stamp payments until the mistake was corrected . . .

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