"I'll Never Forget The Face," Says Witness Of Shooter
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Of the eight murdered Wednesday at the Westroads Mall, six were Von Maur store employees, as are two of the wounded. An employee who escaped the carnage tells Channel 6 News she got a good look at the killer.

Mickey Vickroy says even after surviving, the aftermath she saw was like walking through a nightmare. Vickroy said Thursday she saw the shooter, Robert Hawkins.

"He was laying absolutely still, flat on his back with his hands down dressed in all black, black hair and I'll never forget the face because the face was like pure white. It was as if all the blood had drained out his face.”

Vickroy says a lot of Von Maur employees are scared to return to work.

Vickory, who worked at the third-floor service department, said Wednesday she heard shots at about 1:50 p.m. "It was 10 or 12 shots. We were praying. Every last one of us was praying."

She and her co-workers and customers went into a back closet behind the wrapping room to hide, then emerged about a half-hour later when police shouted to come out with their hands up.

As police took them to another part of the mall for safety, they saw the victims. "We saw the bodies and we saw the blood," Vickory said.

All the bodies were removed from the mall early Thursday morning.

The 19-year-old Hawkins, armed with a rifle, killed eight people and injured five others, two critically, before shooting himself to death.

Creighton University Medical Center confirms two fatalities there, one man and one woman. A third person, a woman, was in critical condition.

Three victims were taken to the Nebraska Medical Center. One had gunshot wounds to the armpit and finger, the other had cuts to the face. Both were treated and released.

A spokesman says the third victim, 61-year-old Fred Wilson, is in critical but stable condition. Wilson worked in customer service department at the Von Maur.

He had previously taught English at St. Albert in Council Bluffs and at schools in Shenandoah and Clear Lake, Iowa.

Witnesses said the gunman fired down on shoppers from a third-floor balcony of the Von Maur store using what police said was an SKS assault rifle they found at the scene.

The mall was locked down as the initial shooting report came out, but several people got out of the building shortly after the gunfire and many others followed later.

Law enforcement officers converged on the scene. The police helicopter circled overhead. Members of the Emergency Response Unit were on the scene with guns drawn.

"My knees rocked. I didn't know what to do, so I just ran with everybody else," said Kevin Kleine who was shopping with her four-year-old daughter. She said she hid in a dressing room with four other shoppers and an employee.

Police found the first victim on the second floor, then several more near a customer service station on the third floor.

Hawkins was found dead on the third floor with a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Hawkins was kicked out by his family about a year ago and moved in with a friend's family in a house in Bellevue said Debora Maruca-Kovac, who along with her husband took in Hawkins, a friend of her sons.

"When he first came in the house, he was introverted, a troubled young man who was like a lost pound puppy that nobody wanted," Maruca-Kovac told The Associated Press.

Maruca-Kovac said Hawkins was fired from his job at a McDonald's this week and had recently broken up with a girlfriend. She said he phoned her about 1 p.m. on Wednesday, telling her that he had left a note for her in his bedroom. She tried to get him to explain. "He said, 'It's too late,"' and hung up.

She told the AP she called Hawkins' mother, went to the Maruca-Kovacs' house and retrieved the suicide note, in which Hawkins wrote that he was "sorry for everything," would not be a burden on his family anymore and "I'm going out in style." The note also said, "now I'll be famous."

Authorities were searching both women's homes late Wednesday.

Maruca-Kovac said she took the note to authorities and went to her job as a nurse at the Nebraska Medical Center. Hours later, Maruca-Kovac said she saw victims being brought in.

Police received a 911 call from someone inside the mall and shots could be heard in the background, Sgt. Teresa Negron said. By the time officers arrived six minutes later, the shooting was over, she said. "We sent every available officer in the city of Omaha," Negron said.

"Everybody was scared and we didn't know what was going on," said Belene Esaw-Kagbara, a Von Maur employee. "We didn't know what to do. I was praying that God protect us."

Keith Fidler, another Von Maur employee, said he heard a burst of five to six shots followed by 15 to 20 more rounds. Fidler said he huddled in the corner of the men's clothing department with about a dozen other employees until police yelled to get out of the store.

Witness Shawn Vidlak said the shots sounded like a nail gun. At first he thought it was noise from construction work at the mall. "People started screaming about gunshots," Vidlak said. "I grabbed my wife and kids we got out of there as fast as we could."

Teresa, an employee of JC Penney, says she got on a two-way radio and said, "If anyone can hear me, there's a man in the mall with a gun and he's shooting people."

"Connie," a Westroads shopper we spoke with on the phone, told us she heard the shots on the third floor of the mall. She said she hid and waited until the gunfire stopped and then crawled out of the building.

Eric, the father of a woman who is a security guard at the mall, got word around 3 p.m. that his daughter was not injured in the incident. She has been on the job for about a year and told her parents she saw one of the victims get shot.

"She called my wife. She was pretty upset," Eric told us.

Witness Chuck Wright says, "I heard this bang, bang, bang. And immediately I just froze. As I backed off, I heard bang, bang, again." Wright says he heard a total of 12 to 15 shots fired. "It was just panic. Nobody knew what was going on," Wright said.

Those who escaped the shooting remained at the scene on buses as police needed their help to piece together all the details. "We heard probably 15 to 20 gunshots, sounded like a huge banging noise," says Brianne Pinkerton.

“Because I wasn't sure if it was gunshots," said another woman.

"I thought if it was, we should get back into the back and then some more customers, a manger and other employees came back. We stayed back there. Unfortunately, the door didn't have a lock on it. So we pushed a ladder against the door."

And there were many others who were in lockdown and then left in a hurry. "I hear seven or eight shots and they said what is that and everyone said head for cover and I looked back and one of the guys was shot,” says Dave Cornwell, a Von Maur employee.

"We went to the corners of the building areas that seemed safe, dressing rooms and things like that."

Outside many who experienced the horror gathered waiting to be interviewed by police, all while supporting each other sharing an entire spectrum of human emotion.

"Scared, scared and shake, some people cry,” said shopper Andres Argyrakis. Images that Cornwell and likely everyone involved, will never forget. "Just sad, I think someone got shot in our building that worked for us."

By Wednesday evening, police were using a bomb robot to access a Jeep Cherokee left in the mall parking lot that belonged to Hawkins. Officers had seen some wires under some clothing, but no bomb was found.

Senator Ben Nelson issued a statement Wednesday evening saying, "Today the city of Omaha and the state of Nebraska have endured a terrible tragedy. Though some of our neighbors have suffered devastating losses today, I know that they can count on the support of the Omaha community at this time. Diane and I send our thoughts and prayers out to the families and friends of the victims of today's terrible violence."

The shootings happened about an hour after President Bush left town.

On Wednesday evening the White House released the following statement:

"The President is deeply saddened by the shootings in Omaha, Nebraska earlier today. His thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families this evening. Having just visited with so many members of the community in Omaha today, the President is confident that they will pull together to comfort one another as they deal with this terrible tragedy."

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Posted by: mpp on Jan 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
this guy was not in his right mind

Posted by: Reid Gloden on Jan 16, 2008 at 06:45 PM
I was deeply shocked and saddened abouth that Westroads Mall Shooting. I never exepected it to happen. I pray for everbody to stay secure. I cried of the horrendous time. My prayers are with the families of the victims.

Posted by: Reid Gloden on Jan 2, 2008 at 11:22 PM
I was deeply shocked of Westroads Mall shooting. I never expected it to happened. I pray for everybody to stay secure. I about cried of that horrific time. My prayers are with the family of victims. I am deeply sympathetic about it.

Posted by: D. Delgado on Dec 27, 2007 at 09:29 PM
For those of you willing, please pray for Robbie's soul. I pray for him several times each day.

Posted by: Robert on Dec 12, 2007 at 02:57 PM
Nothing sells more guns than talk of gun control.

Posted by: caroline on Dec 10, 2007 at 12:29 AM
my prayers are with the family of the victims

Posted by: Bob on Dec 9, 2007 at 09:21 PM
Look, people, if somebody is going to break the law by shooting a bunch of people, would he/she really pay attention to gun control laws? What lawmakers are trying to do is to stop people who BREAK LAWS, WITH MORE LAWS. Makes a LOT of sense. (~sarcasm~)

Posted by: What? on Dec 8, 2007 at 08:16 PM
If you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns? This kids step -father should be held accountable...he had a weapon that he allowed to get in the hands of an insane maniac...own all the guns you want.. with the responsibility and accountability that if a tragedy like this happens you will go to jail.....an AK47... a real hunting rifle ..right......

Posted by: FedUp on Dec 8, 2007 at 01:15 PM
ok...I have never in my life responded before but here it goes. Jane, were you in Von Maur when the shooting began? I was, and I ran for my life. When I reached saftey and could see everything unfold I was struck by the bravery of all the officers that responded. While everyone was running out, they were running in...towards the danger. The officers had no idea what type of situation they were running into. And regarding their "scary riot gear" they have to protect themselves too. To blame the officers for further terrorizing the shoppers...please, that blame goes to Robbie Hawkins!!!! Yes, the paramedics did a fantastic job, but did you know that they can't run in to help victims until the place is secured? And the only way they know this is if the police go in first to secure it!!! I am proud of all the people that responded...the firefighters, the paramedics, and our men and women in blue. God Bless all of them.

Posted by: Kaitlin on Dec 8, 2007 at 11:50 AM
Omaha, we ALL must pull together in this very difficult time following such a horrendous tragedy! This should not be a time for criticism and debate, but for prayer, healing and the support of all those forever affected by this heartless act of violence. Hope for peace and love this holiday season and in the years to come.

Posted by: OmahaT on Dec 8, 2007 at 08:24 AM
Some people are posting that they can't believe that he could get into the mall with a rifle. Technically he could've concealed over five handguns and two long armed weapons, one in front and one in back. It has nothing to do with the mall, this can happen at a grocery store, bookstore or or other places where large crowds form. I really doubt that metal detectors are going to be installed at your local HyVee.

Posted by: Tom on Dec 7, 2007 at 11:19 PM
What a tragedy Jane- just who are you going to call next time you get in trouble? a 19 YEAR OLD STONER WITH AN ak47? What do you think the Omaha police had in mind entering that building? YOUR safety among others. Lighten up. Do you have a better plan? THEY PROTECT US. AT THAT TIME, EVERYONE COULD HAVE BEEN A SHOOTER AND THERE WAS NO WAY TO KNOW THAT THE SHOOTER (OR SHOOTERS) HAD BEEN KILLED. Ridiculous. you should think first.

Posted by: Omaha on Dec 7, 2007 at 10:30 PM
Don't you see... All of you why are we fighting with eachother? Everytime I look at these comments there are only a few supportive poeple. Every time we can't see someones face we chew them out. If we can be respectful to eachother all of the time, not only in Omaha but to people all over, THE VILOLENCE WOULD NOT BE A HIGH! All I'm asking is for a teen like me to have some good rolemodels in my life, who don't have to take their anger out on others. Thanks and God blees all this holiday season.

Posted by: Rich on Dec 7, 2007 at 10:01 PM
First off my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims families. As a resident of Omaha I morn with them. Unfortunaty I have to make this next comment to Jane. Go out and read the Constitution and the Federalist papers and maybe just maybe you'll understand why we have the rights we do. You obviously don't understand what it means and you don't understand what the NRA stands for. I now must come down on the Westroads mall for not allowing law abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns. Maybe, just maybe this nut job wouldn't have killed so many and caused so much pain if one person with a concealed handgun would have been around. The only thing that will stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun. God bless those who lost their lives.

Posted by: pmh on Dec 7, 2007 at 09:58 PM
Today Omaha is everyone's hometown. Omaha is a strong community that has come back from terrible things before but somehow this seems a bit different. Walking down Dodge a few days after the huge tornado was surreal...but that was a "natural" tragedy...this one feels worse.... It is a strange experience to remember a place like Westroads or Crossroads or any of the many places I've spent time with friends and family as suddenly being so changed...so marred with saddness....BUT I have no doubt that Omaha and Omahanians will pull together and make the best of this senseless loss... Please know that at least for today you have the support and love and prayers of not only your community but of your state, your country and infact your world....to the families of those who were so terribly taken, to those who were wounded and fight for their lives, for all who endured the fear and horror...I hope that you can reclaim some of the peace that this season should bring.

Posted by: Cynthia Newvine on Dec 7, 2007 at 09:20 PM
I feel terible that this happened in our city. Those poor people that died, or even witness this tradgety especially during the holiday is just senseless. I will continue to pray for the victims famlies. MAY God BE WITH US ALL During the holiday IN THIS DIFFICULT TIME. Cindy

Posted by: Jed on Dec 7, 2007 at 09:16 PM
My heart breaks everytime I imagine what people would have gone through. As I've said before, I moved from Omaha this year. I had spent many days in Westroads, and many times I spent sitting in the food court just having this odd feeling how easy of a target it would be for some crazed gunman. I know some of you fail to see this, but CCW has a CHANCE to stop something like this. Someone carrying a gun for protection, is very alert to their surroundings. Everyone says "oh innocent lives will be lost if you pull your gun". I highly doubt that. If I'm able to have a clear shot at someone, without putting myself at uneccessary risk, and I stop the gunman.. would you rather start seeing that in stories? Or would you rather have to keep reading stories such as a hero jumped in front of a gunman, giving up their life for someone else to live? I'd rather have as many innocent lives saved, and the bad one ended asap. You can't stop a gunman, without a gun unless you can tackle them.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 7, 2007 at 12:16 PM
I AM DEEPLY SADDENED FOR ALL OF THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES. THIS IS A SENSELESS ACT AND SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. IN MY EYES NO ONE IS FULLY AT FAULT BUT THE GUNMAN, BUT EVERYONE AROUND HIM SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THE COMMENTS HE WAS MAKING. I PARTLY BLAME HIS PARENTS FOR NOT TAKING ACTION AND SHOWING HIM THE LOVE HE NEEDED. SOMEONE LIKE THIS IS OBVIOULSLY SICK. I HAVE HAD ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS COMMITED AGAINST THEIR WILL AND THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME OR AT LEAST TRIED. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN NO ONE LISTENS. HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL LISTEN TO THEIR CHILDREN OR THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED THAT WAY. HIS FRIENDS ARE ALSO WRONG FOR TAKING HIM AS A JOKE NOTHING LIKE THIS IS EVER A JOKE. WAKE UP PEOPLE

Posted by: Von Maur Employee on Dec 7, 2007 at 11:41 AM
As a current employee of Von Maur in Wichita, KS, this all hits to close to home. In my department we are like family and to think of losing them is just to much to handle. My heart goes out to the families and friends of the victims, no one can ever believe something like this could happen to them or at the place they work. It gives me a tremendous sence of vunerablity to just think about going back to work even though it did not happen here in Wichita. How are you suppose to go on like nothing happened. I hope they have some education for the employees so we have better knowledge of what to do in such a crisis. I can only hope that God rests his hand on the families of the victims.

Posted by: Jane on Dec 7, 2007 at 08:04 AM
To DB-4NU, you made the statement "Guns don't kill people..." Have you been living in a cocoon that past several days? Should every Omahan be armed with an AK47?Thank you very much, NRA. Also, credit should go to the fire & rescue, emergency and medical caretakers. The only credit the OPD can take is converging on the building dressed in their black scary swat gear, screaming at survivors hunkered down and further terrorizing them, by their own testimonials. And regarding the $250,000 the State of Nebraska defensively says they spent on this sick man, that is a drop in the bucket compared to the billions Nebraska has spent on ballfields, flower gardens and coaches' salaries.

Posted by: anon on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:40 PM
every single person is loved by someone. My heart goes out to the victims, their families, and all who were touched by this horrific event. There is always room for compassion in one's heart...

Posted by: Sharon on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:39 PM
It's clear that we all failed this young man. Too often, young people with mental health problems get shunted around between ineffective treatment centers and foster care systems that leave them worse off than before. My heart goes out to his family and friends that tried hard to find treatment and do their best to help him. Maybe this tragedy will help us take access to quality mental health services for teens and others more seriously. Families simply can't get help and they turn their children over to be wards of the state, trusting that the child will get good care - too often they don't and the consequences from yesterday are evidence of the failure of our systems. High quality mental health services and support for families with troubled children must be the goal of what we each work towards as a result of this tragedy.

Posted by: D on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:33 PM
Yes, more guns, in law abiding citizens hands could have led to fewer deaths, and these insane "Gun Free Zones" need to go, that only prevents the good guys from not carrying his or her gun into these gun free zones to protect themselves, the bad guys will always break the laws. If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns, think about it.

Posted by: Stephanie on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:31 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims and families as well. I pray for all the families this Christmas and pray they can get through with this all soon! I'm moving to Omaha soon, so Omaha is like my new soon to be home away from home. This hits home for even those not living there. Lots of people here are praying for everyone as well!

Posted by: gloria on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:24 PM
First and foremost my deep sympathies to each of the victims families. As for the shooter, what he did was horrific, yes. There is NO denying that. There are things to be learned from this as surreal, sad, and horrible this all is. Its time that the State step up and look real hard at themselves and the mental care aviailable to ALL people in this state. No insurance, with insurance, families worried about others. We have a good system...not a GREAT system. I think we need to make changes so thats we can really address any issue before ANYTHING like this happens again. I am not saying its the STATES fault, the fault here lies with the fact that a kid MAY and I stress MAy have slipped through the cracks, and NO ONE ever thought it would come to this. I do agree that his picture needs to be taken down, we do not need to help push his agenda of becoming famous. What we need to is learn everything we can, and make sure we do what ever we can so it does not happen again.

Posted by: Joslyn on Dec 6, 2007 at 05:30 PM
it's an absolute miracle my mother (Janice Hopkins) is alive. My mom was standing with another costumer service employee at the front desk who asked to cover her shift. My mom said she would as soon as she wrapped her last package in the back room. only a moment later when my mom had left for the back room the shooter shot her coworkers all standing at the front desk where she was supposed to be. It's truely TRUELY amazing she's alive. My heart goes out to all of the friends and families of the victims.

Posted by: Jeff on Dec 6, 2007 at 04:56 PM
I am deeply saddened by what happened. It makes me feel so terrible to know that someone would kill innocent people so brutally. The event has affected so many people and I truly believe it is the power of prayer that will get everyone through this. I am keeping all those victims and the families in my thoughts and prayers. What he did will not make him famous, but instead will make him be forever known as the "infamous" mass murder that ruined so many innocent lives.

Posted by: KC on Dec 6, 2007 at 04:24 PM
Jean - You say that the media is giving him the glory that he wanted, "going out in style". Do you really think of this as "going out in style". This kid is, and will for awhile, be all over the media. This does not mean that his wish of "going out in style" is being granted, nor does it make him "famous". It makes him infamous/notorious, in a BAD way. Just because he's all over the TV doesn't mean it is taking focus off of the victims. He's all over the place because he did a tragic thing. The fact that they show his picture doesn't affect how serious and how popular this story will be.

Posted by: Charles on Dec 6, 2007 at 04:15 PM
If you think the needless taking of lives and then cowardly killing yourself is going out in style then you need to seek psyciatric help.

Posted by: mitchie on Dec 6, 2007 at 03:55 PM
So the tax payers of Nebraska have spent $265,000 on this kid. Great investment! Fifty years ago FBI director J Edgar Hoover said the Starkweather killings were the result of "muddled sentimentalism" and discipline gone soft. I wonder what he would say today about our nation's youth.

Posted by: Jean on Dec 6, 2007 at 03:47 PM
Please take Hawkins picture of the T.V. everytime you talk about this SAD SAD situation. You are only giving him the glory that he wanted "going out in style". Further more who cares about such a worthless human--lets focus on the victims and their families and keep them in our prayers. God Bless them all.

Posted by: Red Stripe on Dec 6, 2007 at 03:00 PM
Please get this creep's picture off of your website. He does not deserve the notoriety he craved. It just encourages the other loons out there.

Posted by: jjj on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:53 PM
who cares if the mayor & police chief were out of town....what could they have done to prevent this? And what does it matter in regards to Bush's visit. He was here for a PRIVATE fundraiser for fellow Republican Johanns.....like Fahey would've been invited. Puu-lease people. Don't exploit this tragedy to get in some political jabs.

Posted by: Andrea on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:44 PM
Mr. Hawkins had no honor or respect for anyone else. So I believe no one should honor or respect his last wishes.Instead his belongings ( including his vehicle ) should all be sold , and the money put into the memorial fund for the victims.

Posted by: Megan on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:40 PM
This is a horrible tragedy, and it shouldn't have happened. I can't even imagine what the victim's families and loved ones are going through, but I would like them to know my thoughts and prayers are with them. I have been reading alot of the posts and I am seeing alot of name calling and down right ugliness. This is not supposed to be how we act in hard times. We need to leave the investigating up to officials, and comfort eachother. We need to all remember that his friends didn't shoot anyone or do any harm, so the hurtful things that some of you are saying about them are very unnessesary. Hold on tight to the ones you love, and try not to let this murderer keep you from living your life. Love you all.

Posted by: Jarbeau on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:30 PM
It is a shame to see what one person who has lost hope can do. We can analyze it and try to prevent these acts in the future but it is the price of a free society.

Posted by: Brian on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:23 PM
My thought's and prayers go out to the families, and the community. As a former "Omahaian" I can't help but feel terrible about this.

Posted by: kim on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:22 PM
god bless the families take care and get well soon

Posted by: sw on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:40 PM
Please take his picutre of your website. You are giving him the fame he wanted

Posted by: Connie on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:32 PM
Take the coward's picture and name of your site and newscasts! We know enough about him. I would like commend the OPD and first responders for doing a remarkable job. I would especially like to comment on the wonderful job Chief Warren did at the news briefing last night. The fact that he and the Mayor were out of town when the President was in our fair city makes no difference. Pointing out that fact is a bone-head move....it simply makes no difference.

Posted by: Sharon on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:27 PM
You can't put the blame on any one person or any action. What we could do is hug our children and family memebers and listen to what they are saying to us. Understand their wants and needs. Love your family, they are the only ones you have right now. Put God and prayers back into the schools, makes children be responsible for their actions and have consequences for their actions. They will be better people in general becasue they have learned to deal with consequences all their lives. Then when they get older they have a heart breaking experience hopefully they can deal with it better. My heart goes out to all of the families who have lost of loved one. God Bless them in this tough time in their lives. Our police did a wonderful job with their response time. I still Omaha, NE.

Posted by: Jodi on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:24 PM
To Stephanie in La Vista...although you're not a believer in God, God is a believer in you...and uses you for his purpose even though you may not have opened your eyes to that. With that stated, you probably don't sing Christmas songs, exchange presents, etc. this time of year then...of course not...that would be for those that believe in God and Christ.

Posted by: Jodi on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:21 PM
As a Omahan, I feel this tragedy is so surreal. You just think about may be the last time you were there (at the Westroads) or perhaps the last time your family or friends were. That is what makes it hard. On any given day, it could have been any one of us or our loved ones. You hear stories of people who left 5 minutes before it all happened & it is just perplexing. This was obviously a troubled individual. As a medical professional, it is so hard for us to "fix" the mind. If it is a "physical" ailment, we are pretty darn good at it but unfortunately we are lacking when it comes to mental health. This must change.As for our police/fire dptmt thank you all. I can not imagine what you endured. As for chastizing our mayor or police chief for being gone, there is no single entity that could have prevented what had happend. Instead, be thankful they are here now supporting our community. As for the deceased, their families and all victims, God bless you. YOU will be the ones remembered.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:21 PM
Lady Tas, are you referring to the victims inside Von Maur? Because the police were treating it as a crime scene, and a crime scene is to remain untouched/in it's natural state upon complete processing of the scene.

Posted by: kayti reinhardt on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:16 PM
people just don't get it! all through high school and even elementary school you see kids making fun of others and no one sees that we are the reason that some people go into depression or do things like what just happened and we just don't connect the dots. our society just needs more love and it would save a world of problems that every one complains about.

Posted by: Jodi on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:09 PM
Jane, when I stated practice tolerance, my intention is for us to practice tolerance with one another now, not for the dead gunman. He's gone where he needs to be. As for the victims directly and indirectly involved, may they find peace.

Posted by: Lori on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:45 PM
People! Yes, what happened was horrific, but don't blame just the shooter. There is plenty of blame to go around. Shame on his family for 'giving up on him' and declaring him a ward of the state. How can you give up on your own child? You are not allowed to give up, ever! Bless the family that took him in. We have become such a quick-fix society with easy divorces and now, apparently, casting our problem children onto others. LOVE & forgive your children as our Father loves and forgives us. Give your children the love and attention they need/deserve. Don't push them away because you have 'better' things to do. My prayer is for us to have a more family-oriented society. Get back to 'game nights' and reading before bed. Kids are so independent these days because they HAVE to be...it shouldn't be that way. Take the time for your kids and family. Our prayers are with the family and friends of the victims and all who witnessed this tragedy. May God Bless us all!

Posted by: Jeremy on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:37 PM
First off my thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the victims, the survivors and their families, and to the people who had to respond to the call. It's nearly impossible to make sense of a senseless act. One thing that rings true in this case and in many others is that "when it's your time to go...it's your time to go." Some of us will meet our maker while lying in peaceful slumber, others may battle a disease or hardship, and others may be caught up in the randomness that is our world. Gun control or CCW wouldn't stop what happened and in my opinion this isn't the time to be arrogant and use this as a "pulpit" to preach your views. This is a time to say a little prayer for the people involved and give your family a hug and be thankful you were not involved in such a random and senseless act. Thanks to the OPD and all other city agencies for your efforts. I'm over here in Iowa but I know as a former resident that these people are top notch.

Posted by: concerned parent on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Tom, you are seriously deranged! I think you need to be examined! When you give everyone guns, then everyone is going to be shooting everyone! Yes people kill people, but you have a better chance of fighting back when guns aren't involved! Who is going to go to the mall and say I am going to beat up 13 people today? Noone, but they sure can bring a gun, be a coward, and shoot 13 people killing 8 of them! If we had better gun control, there would be 9 friends, family members, and coworkers that would still be alive!

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:02 PM
I guess there's just a meanness in this wolrd

Posted by: Becki on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:47 AM
My heart goes out to the families of the victims. Also my heart and prayers go out to all who were involved.

Posted by: Doug on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:45 AM
As with most here my thoughts go out to all the families affected by this trajedy...but lets not get off the subject and start blaming anything we can, video games DID NOT kill those people, the gun by itself DID NOT kill those people, it was the crazy kid that did the killing...blaming other things does nothing to solve the issue, and blaming the decline of values on the seperation of church and state is just ludacris...i am not a christian, and dont plan on ever being one, but that doesnt mean i dont have the same common values as any religeous person...put the blame where it is due, on the kid himself and the enviroment he was raised in...blaming anyone else takes away accountability and taints the memory of the victims.

Posted by: S on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Heres what the gun laws boil down to, Those stupid little stickers on the doors that say no guns.....well they dont stop the crazies, and they dont stop the legal concealed weapons carriers either, if they did before they wont now. If, just if someone in that part of the mall would have had their gun this could have been stopped sooner, protect your family, protect your property and protect your RIGHTS get licensed and quit talking about coulda, shoulda, wouldas deal with it or dont. The freaks are not going away, we have with our courts and our time outs raised a weak nation, and this is a direct result of no religion and those cute little time outs!

Posted by: Dee on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:35 AM
GOD Bless Everyone Involved!

Posted by: Beth on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:33 AM
This is just another example of an illness that is not being addressed. So many of our children are crying out for help and we turn our heads another direction and think that they wouldn't do such harm. The illness and a boy not getting the help he needed did this...nothing else. I pray for all the families effected. My hearts go out to them today and everyday. Let us not let these 9 lives be a waste. If you have a family member or friend that needs assistance...reach out to them today.

Posted by: Jack on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:32 AM
I don't care how old you are this is not right. He knew right from wrong and killing innocent people is wrong. You can't blame everything on depression. As far as I know, depression doesn't change right from wrong. This young man took the lives of innocent peopel that had nothing to do with his life. Some of these people might have been able to help him. There are many other ways to cry for help instead of killing yourself or other people. Where were the parents and friends of this young man? No one is going to step up and take responsibility for not helping out. They are going to sweep this under the rug and pretend nothing happened. I hope the parents and family respond to this tragic loss.

Posted by: Caleb on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:29 AM
I was concerned for my mom, she works at JC Penny, Tereasa Weederin, I had no idea until 6:45P.M. I got a text message saying that "there was a shooting at your moms work, she is ok and she is on channel 6news." She was on the Today showand I was prowed that she helped others to get to safty. Mark told me that she was ok. I don't know what I would do with out her. I love you mom, your my Hero, Love Caleb.

Posted by: GARY KUDYM on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:29 AM
I LOST A 19 YEAR OLD NEPHEW TEN YEARS AGO, IN THE OMAHA AREA, IN A RANDOM ACT OF VIOLENCE. MY HEART ACHES FOR THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS. EVERYTIME I PASS BY THE LOCATION OF MY NEPHEW'S DEATH I RELIVE THE HORROR OF THAT NIGHT. THE WESTROADS MALL WILL FOREVER BE A REMINDER FOR THOSE WHO LOST A LOVED ONE YESTERDAY, AS WELL AS FOR THE REST OF OUR COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS TO THE GRIEVING FAMILIES TO SEEK HELP FROM THOSE CLOSEST TO THEM AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY THE HOLE IN THEIR HEARTS WILL BECOME SMALLER.

Posted by: C on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:25 AM
For Stephanie, perfect example of no values, she states, I believe in no God! point made!

Posted by: Cheri on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:19 AM
May injured survivors find healing, may witnesses find peace, may families and friends find comfort, may support persons find strength for others...and may this be recognized as an opportunity for individuals to take what has occurred and learn from it. There have been several rantings criticizing the police, rescue personell, government officials, and newscasters as well as the family and friends of the shooter. May we all take the opportunity and time to get educated about what responsibilites and rights we have and exercise them as responsible citizens...in particular, the RIGHT TO VOTE. Until then, criticism is unwarranted. We waste too much time complaining and being reactive about the current state of society versus being proactive and getting involved as responsible citizens. My hope is that we (Nebraskans/Iowans, US citizens) do not lose sight of the real meanings of Christmas as a result of this tragedy. For those fortunate enough to be alive, blessings on you.

Posted by: Karol on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:02 AM
My heart goes out to all. Including Roberts parents. It's very tragic, but they are suffering also. As a parent, they will always blame themselves, and what they did wrong raising him... Robert is the blame and no one else. I'm sure he was brought up with the commen sense of what is right from wrong, and he choice his path. And unforuntley it was the wrong one. They don't stop and think of anyone but theirselfs. Been there done that, and it hurts. Again, my heart goes out to all that this effected......

Posted by: Fellow Neighbor on Dec 6, 2007 at 11:01 AM
It is sad that he wanted to take his own life, but to add to that the lives of others. It truly shows though the times we are living in. Sad as well is the environment that provides some of the fuel for the ideas. Parents think for a moment, the games, drugs, etc... I am not saying that the parents are to blame, that I don't know. I have a young son (3) and I will say that if I had older children, they would not be permitted to have some of the games, movies, etc that fuel some of the ideas these kids get. It just simply would not be an option. Some parents I think give in so quickly to their children, letting them play violent games, watch violent movies, and hang out with bad associates. And over all are not really involved with their kid’s lives when you think about it. My thoughts and prayers go out to those affected by this. All should hold their families tight, pray with them. Invest in your family not with money but with time, love, and Bible truths.

Posted by: anynamous on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:52 AM
god bless all the family memembers of the vitcims pray for them

Posted by: Cathy on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:47 AM
To Tom in Omaha. Are you kidding? Give me a break!! Gun laws kill? If the ASSAULT rifle that Robbie used had not been sold on the open market, he never would have been able to pull off this mass killing so easily. I'm not saying trample the constitution, but let's bring some reason and common sense to the gun laws. Who has ever seen a game hunter hunting for deer, turkey and quail with an ASSAULT RIFLE (Gee -- does the name mean anything). You can have your handguns for self-protection and you can have your hunting rifles. But don't tell me that you need an automatic assault rifle for hunting and self-protection. I have YET to see one of those things used for anything other than committing a crime or killing people. Your right to "bear arms" ends where MY right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness begins. I can't walk into a store and buy a cruise missile -- and for good reason. I have no LEGITIMATE need for one; nor do you have a LEGITIMATE need for an assult gun!

Posted by: Jon on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:44 AM
I am saddened to see this happen yet again. Hoever those of you who say gun control is the answer, take a look at australia and england, they are no safer with total gun bans as we are here in the US. Over there the criminals still have guns and honest citizens need to hide in fear.

Posted by: Iowa Girl on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:43 AM
i wish the best for the families that were involved. my prayers will go out to all.

Posted by: Waiting on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:37 AM
Our prayers and thoughts go out to the survivors and familes of the victims. But as long as the conversations revolve around gun control and metal detectors we miss the obvious--lack of appropriate funding for mental health for Omaha and the entire state of Nebraska. Whether it is the insurance companies or the state, something has to be done to better monitor cases such as these. The signs were here to monitor--no one was there to better support and prevent this horrible outcome. I hope the govenor and legislature are taking notes for the next legislative session.

Posted by: Jo on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:35 AM
My sympathy goes out to the families involved. I question the amount of community outrage this has generated versus the apparent apathy to the countless innocent victims of the drive-by shooting which have been reported all year. Aren't we basically talking about the same crime, only on a larger scale? All parts of this community need improved police presence, not just the malls.

Posted by: Lisa on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:34 AM
I am so sorry for the victims and their families. Not to be cruel, but are more eyes open now to the violence in Omaha, since it has been stressed this was in an "affluent" west area? This was not South O, where I moved from, or North O, both always talked about negatively, but in WEST OMAHA..? The violence is everywhere, and the parents aren't always to blame. Society has stripped kids of beliefs and morals.

Posted by: Bobbie on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:20 AM
Lady Tas- trauma patients go to trauma centers who are better equipment to handle the scale of their injuries. OPD did a fine job in responding to this tragedy, those who scoff at the 6 min response time clearly are just looking to place blame! The only person to blame is the shooter, so stop trying.

Posted by: Kathy on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:17 AM
As I sit here this morning, I am thinking about the victims, the injured and the families of Nebraska. We are enduring a horrific tragedy at this time. Yesterday, when I heard the news I immediately prayed for healing, forgiveness, and strength. My thoughts and prayers go out to all involved. My empathy goes out to the family and friends of Robert Hawkins. I cannot imagine the pain Robert’s families are going through…to know that their loved one did this. Let’s us be forgiving too. Remember, Robert met his maker yesterday. We should not sit here and judge, but to have empathy for all. God be with all!

Posted by: DDB on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:15 AM
Interesting that the cost of our "freedoms" are so high. We fight terrorists in other countries for fear of an attack, but in reality most of the attacks in this country are executed by our own citizens. I don't believe anything would have stopped this NUT from doing this and it is so sad that some poor people out enjoying thier day have to have thier lives altered because of some NUT. At this point, maybe Americans need to evaluate our culture. Is this the kind of climate we want to raise our children in? If the answer is no, then maybe we ALL should be willing to give up a number of "freedoms" to assure a more respectful and safer country. I wish all of Omaha peace during this time and I really hope that at some point our "government" would focus more on our internal safety and when I say "government" I mean US. The American Citizen.

Posted by: Tim on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:15 AM
He shot innocent people...blaming them for his bad life growing up...so selfish. May God give comfort and peace to the families of the innocent that died at the hands of this deranged individual.

Posted by: Laurie on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:08 AM
Such a tragedy. My condolences to all the families involved. I will be praying for physical and emotional healing for all. I encourage everyone to support Von Maur and continue shopping there.

Posted by: Judi on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:07 AM
We all have an opportunity to learn a great deal. Do not let the individuals impacted by this tragedy be in vain. Everyone of us need to pay attention to each other, help each other, and love each other. This young man was recognized as being lost, depressed, introverted, and suicidal. I have heard reports from friends and associates describe a gammit of observations. Take action people. Do not think, “oh this is not my problem, I do not need to get involved. “ Oh yes you do. Ignoring the signs and signals is no solution. Eventually it will become your problem, as the actions of the “lost” will sooner or later impact you in some way, shape or form. How many times do we need to hear the same observations? The observations have not changed. Changing our Freedoms (2nd amendment) is not going to change these circumstances, being compassionate and getting those that need help the help they need will change the circumstances.

Posted by: Brandon on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:06 AM
Just want to let the families of the ones lost and the injured know you in my thoughts and prayers. A loss like this is brutal and you will be among all of my prayers this Christmas season.

Posted by: Pete on Dec 6, 2007 at 10:01 AM
Let us give the OPD credit for charging onto the scene. Of course they were too late, the deed having been done. But at least they didn't wait around the fringes to make a tactical plan. Good going!

Posted by: Adam on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:55 AM
This nut was going to kill someone whether there was a concealed carry law or not; whether there were signs saying "no guns allowed" or not. That's all we would have needed with all the chaos going; some idiot who believes he's John Wayne or Spider-Man trading gunfire with this fool and the bloodshed of innocents would have been far greater than it was. You people that think packing "heat" makes you safe need a reality check. You aren't John Rambo. I'm more afraid of YOU than I am anything else. Despite what you think, you could not have prevented this. I think it's time to stop watching television and movies and start moving into the real world with the rest of us. Nuff said

Posted by: michelle on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:53 AM
I pray for the families/friend of the victims. God Bless them. We need more metal detectors in public facilities. This is a dangerous world we live in.

Posted by: The Duck on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:42 AM
When you put sheep in a pen unprotected, & the wolf comes, the sheep are going to die, it is as simple as that. Allow a Sheepdog to be around the sheep he may just save some, but the sheep are frightened by the Sheepdog, as much as they are frightened by the wolf. The Sheepdog may nip you, but the wolf is just going to kill you.

Posted by: Jane on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:40 AM
We all pray for the victims and we offer condolences and prayer to their families. Their lives have been changed forever. And we should learn one terribly important lesson from this event--if someone tells you that they have suicidal thoughts TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY. Take action. Get advice on how to help--call your local mental health agency, suicide hotline or family doctor. Do something! You could save a life. Or many.

Posted by: Cathy on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:40 AM
I am a retired school teacher who raised a family in the good old fashioned way. They are all well adjusted adults with children of their own. I quit teaching in the 80's after the courts took control from the teachers and the parents, and gave it to the youth of America. If they didn't like the way they were treated, they turned their parents in for abuse. Prayer was taken out of the schools (thanks, Madeline) and now church and state argue over landmarks with religious implications. The FCC has lowered their standards for inapproiate sexually explicit content on public airwaves, and our children are constantly exposed to more and more violence. The internet chat rooms expose our children to the prey of sexual predators, and yet Congress does nothing to regulate any of this. America is a fallen nation. These kids reach out however they can and all too often their pleas go unnoticed. They make statements in their dress, and hair style. Wake up America! Help our youth.

Posted by: Meredith on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:38 AM
Lady Tas: Victims were taken to the nearest facilities that could handle trauma. UNMC and Creighton are both equipped for this, Mehtodist is not. As has been stated before, thoughts and prayers are with the victims families, friends, and the city of Omaha.

Posted by: Dena on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:34 AM
What has our world come to? I can't believe I brought my son into this world. I pray someone will help our future. I pray for the families of the victims and for the shooter, a child. May God have mercy on his soul.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:33 AM
I wanted to post a comment, first to announce my deepest condolences for those involved in yesterday’s event that occurred at Westroads Mall. My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families. May God bless you all during this tragic time? Second, what if a law abiding citizen was practicing their 2nd Amendment rights? I believe the number killed would've been reduced by a lot. I truly support the “right of the people to keep and bear arms”; again it's in the Bill of Rights. Going back to Virginia Tech, I believe if a student was lawfully caring a gun, the number of victims would have been reduced. I completely understand there are many out there who believe Omaha needs better "gun control". However, what about those who obtain their gun legally, store it in a gun safe, take classes to learn and prevent accidents, and use it to protect themselves and others? Thanks for letting me getting my point across. Again, my heart and soul goes out to everyone affected by ye

Posted by: Cathy on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:31 AM
There is no way in the world you can have "gun control". Only honest people will register and do the right thing; people like Hawkins will find a way to get a gun. There is no way to have 100% gun control. My heart goes out to the victims and their families.

Posted by: Dave on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:25 AM
If more people had guns at the mall it would have been like a wild west shootout, with more innocent people dead because of indiscriminant shooting. I believe in the right to own guns, but this isn't Tombstone in the 1860s.

Posted by: Simon on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:23 AM
I was horrified to hear of the killings in a city I know so well, and made my home for many years. My thoughts are with all the victims and relatives of those killed or injured.

Posted by: dan on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:21 AM
Another 'ner do well, video game playing pothead makes it to the 'big screen' .

Posted by: Chuck on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:21 AM
Why take the life of innocent people? I feel terrible for the families who lost loved ones and those who had to go through this ridiculous event. Will the people who are depressed please seek help before this happens again.

Posted by: Shelley Boyce on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:19 AM
I want to share an email from a friend in Florida: I hope everyone is eventually able to find some peace. The horror of those workers at the store making barely more than minimum wage and the shoppers buying gifts for those they love is like a fright beyond imagination. I cannot imagine the depth of grief the entire city is feeling at this time. Shareen

Posted by: W.Willet on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:19 AM
Having been born and raised in Millard for 30 years and moving to the Valley of the Sun only 7 years ago I have no doubt the compassion that Omahans have for each other and that they will pull together and help each other get through this. God bless you and yours!! I lost a brother suddenly in a tragic accident 7 years ago and having the gift of telling him I loved him the last time I spoke to him was a great peace that I live with everyday; this incident is one more reason to remember to tell your loved ones that you love them before they leave your side.

Posted by: Taylor on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:16 AM
What is the deal with North Omaha vs. West Omaha. It is a tragedy anytime and anywhere this happens. Get over this rivalry people!

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:09 AM
This shows how corrupted our world is. I agree with many people below - who cares about the mayor being here. What can he do? Even the president can't stop any issues from happening today. It's so sad to see this happen to my hometown. My love and prayers go out to you all.

Posted by: D S Dunlap on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:07 AM
You know what? Let's not blame guns, depression, or anything else here. The fact is that the shooter was simply EVIL. Depressed people kill themselves, yes, but they don't take others with them. This man is on the same level as Islamic terrorists. He chose a location full of unarmed people, took shots at people, and killed eight of them. That isn't a "lost soul" or a "depressed and sad" person's action. That is the action of an EVIL human being who thought of nothing more than his own wants and "fame." Well, what he has become is dead. Infamous and dead. May the families of the victims, and those he left behind who tried to help him straighten out, find peace.

Posted by: Paige on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:06 AM
Why does every mass shooting incident turn into a debate on gun control? This makes no sense to me. Also, anti-depressants have helped several people, including many of my family members, cope with and deal with difficult mental illnesses.

Posted by: Jim on Dec 6, 2007 at 09:03 AM
This is horrible. Our hearts and thoughts are with everyone over in Omaha today.

Posted by: cathy on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:59 AM
this is a tragic tragic thing to happen in omaha ne. This is is something that you think happens everywhere but your home town. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved ecspecially the victims and their families.

Posted by: Jean on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:54 AM
OUr prayers and love go out to all those who lost loved ones yesterday. For all of us who knew one of the victims, the only solace is knowing that they are in God's hands now. In this season of peace, this is such a senseless tragedy. Let us all focus on supporting our community through this horrific event and reaching out to the families affected by this.

Posted by: jjj on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:54 AM
the nearest hospitals don't have trauma centers to handle this kind of tragedy.

Posted by: Mike on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:53 AM
This terrible tragedy, so possibly avoidable. It is my limited understanding that concealed carry of a firearm in Nebraska is now legal. I further understand that in Omaha, it is not. How narrow minded! Had someone been legally carrying a concealed weapon, would this cold blooded murder spree have been ended before eight people had to die. It's sad that these eight people are dead because a good sam would be considered a criminal had he/she been carrying a concealed weapon and taken action against this killer. Regretfully, our Wisconsin lawmakers and governor are even more narrow minded, having failed to pass our own concealed carry law to date. Our prayers go out to the victims and families in this tragedy.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:52 AM
Leave guns out of this issue. This was a VERY tragic event that happened here and to blame was a kid that was sick in the head and needed help. Nobody saw the clues he was giving out and nobody reached out to help him. Also, there would be other ways in taking this gunman down w/o someone else using a gun back on him to stop him. You have those people who feel fearful in these situations and they go hide, or you have those with the survival instinct in them and they adress the situation and come up with a way to immobilize the shooter through surprise. Most people in the mall were wearing some sort of coat or jacket that could have been helpful. Come up behind the sick kid and put your coat over his head and then kick the **** out of him. We need to remember to fight for our lives because if we don't, who will for us?? I don't know it might be different if you were the one there experiencing it, but my adrenaline would be going if I was there to witness that.~34 year old female in NE~

Posted by: ???? on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:50 AM
Sorry to the families of the victims. It's going to be hard to pass through this story, but just put your head up and everything will be alright. We will pray for all the victims and for the families.

Posted by: Charyl on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:47 AM
I don't like the way some of these questions are heading. Debbie should be looked at as a saint for do more than his own family was doing. People are talking like she should have done more to stop this situation. She was just a nice woman taking in someone elses child and helping him transition into adulthood. That was what his family should have been doing. Maybe he wouldnt have felt like a burden if his own mother had not given up on him. I have been waited on by this boy at the McDonalds on 36th & 370 and he was quiet but polite and seemed nice enough. So thank you Debbie Maruca for trying to help this boy when no one else would. I just hope there are more people like Debbie and less people like the ones acting like she should have done more. Charyl From Golden Hills in Bellevue

Posted by: saddened on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:46 AM
It's too bad that noone stepped in to give this kid some real help. It probably started a long time ago. He must have been suffering a great deal. Suicide is a selfish impulsive act and does not solve anything. Suicide and murder together is even more selfish and does not make you famous it makes you the target of grief that will haunt your soul after your own death. How discusting and tragic that this young man felt the need to take so many lives including his own.

Posted by: Debbie on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:46 AM
My thought are for the Woman who took this young man in to her home. She is not to blame. No one should pass judgement on her unless they have walked in her shoes. I hopw she can get thru this ordeal.

Posted by: Joe on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:42 AM
He was "Gentle"? Gentle doesn't go out and kill people. Let's try, "shooter was not right in the head". Robbie's wish came true, he's famous. Boy I'm glad he's around to experience fame. Nice going Robbie. Maybe you should have stepped in front of a moving train. Take yourself out if you're not happy. What a coward!! God will deal with him now!

Posted by: Kristin on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:40 AM
This is very sad to me but what really makes me sad is that people and media is saying Omaha is not a violent place if u haven't watched the news for the past 6 months there has been at least a shooting a day and death every two it is sad that it took 9 people to die to realize how bad the violence is in Omaha

Posted by: Sorrorful Mom on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:39 AM
I agree with one person's comments. We as a society are paying for the breakdown of the family structure. We've become dependant upon foster care, police and social services to fix/mend the true wounds from a lack of family and God-centered living. No matter what is done, said or theorized, this simple truth is that it won't go away until it is faced. It is now time before we we have no time to change.

Posted by: Reality Check on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:31 AM
Creighton and the Med Center are the only Trauma hospitals. They trade off taking trauma calls. Yesterday they both took the traumas.

Posted by: Tami on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:29 AM
My thougths and prayers are with the families of those killed and injured. I know that words cannot lessen the pain...God's Peace and Grace to us all.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:28 AM
If you ask me, the kid got what he deserved by shooting himself, nobody deserved what he did and NO ONE should feel sorry for him because he was "troubled" His friend's mother claims he was a helpful young man, the fact remains that he killed innocent people for no reason whatsoever and for that he should not be made famous, he should be torn apart in the media and made out for what he is, a psychopath.

Posted by: greg on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:27 AM
this has nothing to do with the mayor or the police chief. nothing to do with Omaha. It has to do with an idiot kid. By the way- fired from McDonalds, a break-up, etc. does NOT make you a victim. They are convenient excuses for a whack job kid. May he rot in hell

Posted by: Annomous on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:23 AM
Some of you just don’t get it. It does not matter if we ban or don’t ban guns people can kill with many things. When people feel they are at the end of there rope they snap. Part of this is directly caused by society and the changes since what some people call the good old days. Many values have been lost many kids are raising themselves, many people medicate there problems away. People in general have lost the stability of life and the ability to cope with the excessive stresses society places on everybody. We need to focus on the children and raising the next generation to have good morals and values of rite and wrong. We need to teach them aggression is a last resort as is fighting and war. We need to teach them everybody has the right to be different and to turn the other cheek and forgive people for the things they do. We need to teach them feelings are natural but that it is how you handle those feelings that can be destructive. We need to instill in these children they are love

Posted by: Garry on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:23 AM
My heart goes out to all the victoms, both the physically and emotionally scared. I would especially like to thank those mall employees who put their own lives at risk to get their customers to safe hiding places. I think it is too early to speculate on what could/should have been done to prevent this (i.e. more gun control, less gun control, etc.). We need to recover from this shock before we can be objective. What we must focus on now is covring the facts of the case in such a way as to discourage any copy-cats. Somewhere out there, there is some other disenfranchised person with a tenious grasp on mental stability who just might see the coverage and think it is a good idea. How to we ballance society's need to know with our obligation to protect that society we seek to inform? That is the question every reporter covering this story needs to ask themselves.

Posted by: Hope on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:21 AM
Lady...to answer your question, the victims were not taken to Bergan or Methadist because UNMC and Creighton are the only two hospitals in Omaha with a trauma center rather than a regular ER. It just so happens that both happen to be downtown.

Posted by: turtle on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:21 AM
I am deeply sadden about this I just can't keep this out of my head these poor innocent people lost their lifes because this kid lost his McDonalds job OH my God what is this world coming to? This reminds me of the Columbine high killings except it is a mall now I'm scared to go anywhere you just never know The question is what do his real parents have to say about this and do he have any sister and brothers?This kid was crying out for help and did'nt nobody hear him.One thing parent,friends collegues,mentors whoever need to stop and listen sometimes it won't hurt just the little things can matter when you hear or talk to somebody that is hurting and you know they hurting.This people who took this kid in knew he was a trouble child but yet they did'nt stop to help him to get the help he needed.I'm not blaming them because they did take this kid in but they could of notifyed somebody even he's ex-girlfriend knew he was screwd in the head but never spoke about it now it is to late SADDD!

Posted by: ES on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:19 AM
I wish we could quit talking about this kid and remember the people who were senselessly killed and injured trying to do some holiday shopping. Isn't this exactly what he wanted?

Posted by: Sara on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:18 AM
I used to live in Omaha, just a few years ago and it was a great place. It is obvious that this young man was troubled. I pray for his parents because they will need them to get through this horrible tradgedy their son has cause. And I pray for the family and friends of the victims; they have a long road ahead of them. God Bless you all.

Posted by: Anna on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:18 AM
The coward murderer who committed this crime against defenseless "easy targets" does not deserve any glory, but rather dishonor and shame. He says in life he was a loser, but the way he died only proves he is an even bigger loser.

Posted by: Jaques on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:18 AM
Almost 50 years ago to the day as Charles Starkweather

Posted by: Adam on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:16 AM
My thoughts go out to the friends and family of all involved in this tragedy. As an employee there it was a horrific experience being in the mall. Words cannot explain how it feels to see people running for their lives down the hall while you are working at your job. I felt the police did an excellent job of making us feel safe and secure. I hope the gun violence we have here in Omaha is going to decrease. This shooting and this past summer were terrible events to experience. Peace to everyone

Posted by: Kevin on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:15 AM
Well if this young man wanted notoriety the media certainly gave it to him. The ore they spout the more other whackos get the same ideas

Posted by: Frances on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:14 AM
I am sure we will all be truly sad when the truth of these murders come to our lives. The innocent blood shed for nothing more than the selfish act of one. When we finally see the names and faces of those gunned down by this sick individual, I am sure we will all be in be shock. This sick person wanted fame, all he got was shame. Please turn the camras away from him and focus on the lives ruined.

Posted by: Pam on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:14 AM
I am praying for the families of the victims who were murdered by this COWARD. I know that this COWARD is burning in hell right now and will burn forever. I guess that's what he meant by saying "he was gonna go out in style". God help the victims families as they need him and all of our prayers.

Posted by: DB4NU on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:14 AM
My thoughts and prayers go out to all involved. The Police and rescue personell also. I can't help thinking if one person who was qualified to carry and conceal a hand gun (if you could take it in the Mall) was there some lives may have been saved. Even if one live which is presciuos would of been saved it would be worth it. I am not a big fan of OPD, but I believe they did a great job this time. We need to wake up and realize guns don't kill people-people kill people. May God be with all the families and friends in Omaha, NE

Posted by: jess on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:11 AM
i agree we need to pray for the victims families but we also need to pray for this young mans family, they were not the ones holding the gun, as a mother i know that there are times no matter how hard we try and install things in our kids God still gave us free will thats what make us, us. But along with that we need to keep these people who had to witness this tradidy in our prayers, they may not have physical wounds to show but many will now suffer emotional and mental wounds. I thank God for all the ones who have made it safely out of the mall and all of you wether your a victim a victims family the young mans family or just a witness you are in my prayers right now. and keep in mind prayers and the Lord above can do maore good then any gun law or law enforcement or law. god bless you all

Posted by: Chris on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:10 AM
Put God back in the schools. It will never happen again. 2,000 years after his death, Jesus still intimidates people. Our children are more important than your feelings being hurt. Put Jesus first and this stuff will stop!

Posted by: Ozarks on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:09 AM
My prayers go out to the families. While this may be considered one of a kind there just to many one of a kinds. I guess if he had problems in is life why he had to blame others in this way. I hope this never happens again to anyone.

Posted by: Carl on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:08 AM
Please quit feeding into the gloification of this sick terrorist. All the news including your staion seems to want to give this murderer exactly what he wanted...fame. The more you and others plaster his face on tv, the more others like him will want to do the same, but only worse...PLEASE quit being the fule sorce, and please, ALL news sorces quit giving into his demands...THIS IS WHAT HE WANTED, dont you get it?

Posted by: K on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:07 AM
OH MY GOD!!!!!! How could anyone get into a mall- with a rifle and get all the way to the third floor without anyone seeing it?????? This, is beyond my comprehension. Yes the police did a great job of responding- but- it should never have been allowed to have happened in the first place.

Posted by: Bill on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:06 AM
Why do you think he attacked the mall and not a police station? That's right - the police are armed - shoppers at westroads are not. Guns in responsible hands DETER crime or at least send it somewhere else. Please exit dreamworld now.

Posted by: Alisha on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:05 AM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families and the victims.

Posted by: J on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:03 AM
WOWT - please remove the shooter's picture from your website. You are only encouraging the next shooter, whether it be here or somewhere else in the country.

Posted by: Angry and Sad on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:03 AM
No one ever expected this to happen in Omaha Nebraska, but it did and it just shows how no matter how safe you feel there are messed up people in the world who have to go and turn everyones worlds upside down. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families of the victims and those involved in yesterdays shootings!! God Bless Everyone!!

Posted by: unknown on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:02 AM
I just dont understand this Country anymore Where is The Lord,One Nation under God!!!!Well,if this country was One Nation under GOD...I really dont think this would of happened,,,or anything like this ever!!!!I just dont get this country anymore. Maybe more people should get together to help change things.But when will that ever happen???????????I know He looks down, and is saddened,by all of this,it is a totally senseless loss everyone just needs to get along and figure this out. JESUS SAID HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND LIFE,please remember that.My heart goes out to all of the victims,and their families. May God bless you and keep you safe.My prayer is that this Country would come together,and really change things,if it would be one Nation under God. Instead of arguing about the gun laws,and religion,If more people would except Jesus into their hearts,then there would be alot of changes. There is too much violence out there,our streets are not safe anymore. Please help change things.

Posted by: John on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:02 AM
He was absolutley correct! He would be "famous". He knew the news media would keep repeating his name, showing his face, and even give a title to this horrible act. The media is sure holding up its end of the bargain. Hey, I dont need to know any names and surely dont need to keep seeing his face on TV and newspapers. Hey news media do us a favor? Stop making people's last wishes come true. More and more troubled (psychos)people are going to want that same spotlight and will do the same horrible things to get it. Lets worry about the victims / witnesses. Only thing we should hear about the criminals is if they are captured dead or alive.

Posted by: The Haj Family on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:01 AM
All of us from Omaha who have settled around the world unite in sadness. Many hours have been spent in Westroads, and will be so again, in time. Sleep well to those who have lost their lives so tragically. May God comfort those left behind.

Posted by: Traci on Dec 6, 2007 at 08:00 AM
If carrying concealed guns were allowed in Omaha maybe some responsible citizen would have been armed and been able to stop this madman before shooting and killing. I grieve for the loved ones of the victims and all of Omaha. This is a terrible tragedy for all of us.

Posted by: Erin on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:58 AM
PLease take this murder's picture OFF your home page. He deserves NONE of this publicity. He is a coward. I don;t think you should give anyone else the idea that his "plan" was working & just pretend this kid didn't exist. I personally don't ever want to hear another thing about him & certainly don't want to see him. He doesn't deserve it, neither do his victims or the people of Omaha.

Posted by: dawn on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:58 AM
Working in a public school system, I am exposed to children with troubled home lives. I am asking parents to be take seriously the mental development of their children. If as a parent you have any knowledge of any concerns with your child, I would hope that at least items such as guns would not be left accessible. As a community, we need to help those parents who may not understand how to help their children for the safety of all involved.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:57 AM
Has anyone considered that this may have something to do with the front page story about Starkweather the other day?

Posted by: Erin on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:55 AM
My thoughts & prayers go out to Fred Wilson & his family. I always enjoyed seeing him & hearing his amazing voice when I called Von Maur & I hope he has a speedy recovery. I am so sorry this happened. God bless you.

Posted by: AT on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:45 AM
I think although you would be crazy to think that it will never happen to you or in the city you live it, you still cant imagine it. Its heartbreaking!!! Omaha is now part of the list of tragedy that has occurred in the US. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected by this. What is America going to do to get a handle on this???????

Posted by: Mark on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:42 AM
What role did the media have in planting the seed with Sunday WH coverage of Chas Starkweather's Fame? How ironic that it happened same day that Johannes campaign welcomed Bush (remember he cut mental health funding and closed regional centers).

Posted by: ron on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:39 AM
no video games and guns don;t kill people. it's the person making the decision, influenced by a violent society in which we live. we are so exposed to violence in our day-day life. start by making a difference at home, violence is thought to kids from early ages, TV, physicological abuse, we as parents need to take responsibilities and watch out how we rise our kids, only then this society can start changing. My prayers and thoughts to the victims and families involved in this horrific incident.

Posted by: Travis on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:34 AM
I'm not surprised that the "gun nuts" are out in force. Thank goodness for the good sense of the businesses here that don't want to turn their stores into the wild west. Considering the types of people that want to carry their guns wherever they go....it's a good thing that those folks weren't armed. Plus...those people shop at Wal-Mart....not at Von Mauer!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:34 AM
I want to know where the gun came from, why he had access to it, and why he decided on the place he did. Also why is he getting global coverage? Isn't that giving him exactly what he wanted?

Posted by: Jess on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:31 AM
Can we please stop posting this maniacs picture all over the place. He wanted to be famous & the media is doing just that..making him famous. How about focusing on the lives lost, families affected, and those victims who thankfully are w/ us today.

Posted by: Bill on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:26 AM
Blaming it on society is a cop-out. Society has never and will never fix problems like this. A responsible gun owner in the right place could have turned this 9 deaths into one or maybe less. Thanks for keeping the malls clear of legitimate gun owners. Think of the 8 people that might have been saved. People think the "no guns allowed here" sign will somehow turn away killers. Someone please explain how a sign stops a killer.

Posted by: Jacob on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:19 AM
Why do you have this kids picture up? All you're doing is giving him what he wanted. What if one person in the store had a weapon on them at the time of the shooting? They could have taken him out before he completed his rampage. There would be fewer dead, I can assure you. Anti-Gun laws are partly to blame for this incident.

Posted by: Jim on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:14 AM
To all you fools who want to do away with guns..Why dont you put a sign up in front of your house..saying "this is a gun free Household"do you think a criminal is going to hit a house with a sign up or with out one?Get real..

Posted by: Uncle Buck on Dec 6, 2007 at 07:12 AM
Metro is fill with these type of people

Posted by: Janet on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:59 AM
I am still in total shock. This has affected all of Nebraska & Iowa. Many of us travel to Omaha to shop. Will we ever feel safe again?

Posted by: omahacitizewn on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:51 AM
Frankly, we should not even identify these individuals who do things like this by their names. It serves to give them the glory they desire. Maybe had he not known that we as a society would "have to know" who he was and "why he did it", he wouuld have just taken his own life if he so desired, rather than taking out so many others along with him for the glamour of it. But the media and the rest of us as a society feel the need to know it all. He should have been identified as an "unknown assailant" or a "troubled youth" which is what he was.

Posted by: Todd on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:49 AM
First let me say my thoughts and prayers are with all of the families effected by this evil act. I was saddened by the news that my former Speech and English teacher Mr. Wilson was among the injured. Again my thoughts and prayers are with all of you in Omaha

Posted by: Karin on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:41 AM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of this senseless tragedy. A note to the media please don't give Robert A Hawkins anymore coverage so copy cats want to be just like him. Let us focus on the victims and their families. I hope someday NRA will re-look at their beliefs and our lawmakers change the gun laws. Why does anyone need guns on the streets?

Posted by: Howard on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:29 AM
Another example of Murder for Fame Boycott Chapter 27!!! If we continue to make killers famous, they will continue to KILL

Posted by: Todd on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:28 AM
I'll bet there would have been less dead if more law-abiding citizens had also been armed. Banning guns won't stop crazy people from getting them. There's no way that the gun he used was obtained legally.

Posted by: John on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:25 AM
This is horrible. So many families have been affected by this tragedy. If you see someone getting the "Blues" (especially during the Holidays) Talk to them, get them help. Don't let them leave your sight.

Posted by: Honey on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:24 AM
I am so sorry for the families who's lives are forever changed by this event. One comment made by Robbie was he was "going out in style". Channel 6 newscasters claim his rampage didn't make him famous like he wanted. They were right. His rampage did not. The continous coverage of him, his life, his victims, etc did that for him. What he did was horrible beyond description and the media made him famous for it.

Posted by: Anna on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:23 AM
While my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, I want to extend a kudos to the law enforcement officials and medical response units that implemented a quick response to Wed's tragedy. I'm sure we would have had more causalties if they hadn't acted so quickly. Also a huge pat on the back to the many unnamed heros that helped strangers to safety despite their own fears for safety yesterday! May God Bless all of them!

Posted by: T.A.S. on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:21 AM
STOP glorifing this kid and making him the hero he wanted to be. Your making it easier for copycats to follow in his footsteps! Enough with the 24 hour news let the victims families rest. The media always makes every criminal into a hero STOP IT!

Posted by: Jeff on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:19 AM
This is the biggest and saddest tragedy I have seen in Omaha. My thoughts and prayers go to all eight families and their friends. I have been reading some comments. Banning guns is not the answer. You just have to keep the guns out of the wrong hands. He could have used a bow and arrow of a vehicle. You can't blame the weapon. Only the person pulling the trigger. Again, my thoughts and prayers o all eight families

Posted by: Jeff on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:15 AM
First off, my thoughts and prayers go out to the 8 victims of December 5. This Christmas will be full of tears instead of cheers. It is very unfortunate that someone down on themself can go and destroy 8 families and hundreds of friendships. This world is a cruel place. It is very hard to imagine this kind of sickening event could happen right here in Omaha. Again, thoughts and prayers to all eight victims families and friends

Posted by: Jeff Loring on Dec 6, 2007 at 06:09 AM
Such a tragedy. My families thoughts and prayers go out to all the families and friends of those who did not make it out of the mall. I am sickened by what happened in Omaha yesterday at 1:42 pm. I just wish that is someone is so upset at themself, don't injure inocent people. I believe the mans name was Jeff Shaffert, the man who got shot in the arm. He said that he wan't really that surprised that this happened with the way society is now. Sad but true. There is a lot of nutty people out there. And then here comes the anti-weapon people. Unfortunately, a weapon ended up in a monsters hands. You will never prevent that. My last comment is this. Yesterday, there were 8 victims. Robby Hawkins doesn't deserve to be a victim. Again, God Bless the families and friends that have to deal with these loses at the holiday season.

Posted by: ER Worker on Dec 6, 2007 at 05:59 AM
Lady Tas, the Omaha trauma system works like this: Creighton takes major trauma victims on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. The Nebraska Medical Center takes them on the remaining days. Other hospitals are not equipped to handle major traumas because they don't have an OR and ER staff capable of handling major traumatic injuries. Yesterday The Nebraska Medical Center heard of the shootings and agreed to take victims to help Creighton. These injuries require MAJOR resources such as nurses, doctors, anesthesia, OR rooms, blood bank, phlebotomists, security, and other personnel specifically trained in dealing with major injuries. In essence, if the medics had gone to a smaller, lesser equipped hospital, chances are that the man who was in surgery would not have made it through the day. Hope this helps.

Posted by: Frustrated on Dec 6, 2007 at 05:53 AM
It is easier for young people these days to get guns and illegal drugs than it is for them to get help. The kind of problems this young man had did not go unnoticed - there simply were not resources around him to get him help. The reports tall of several instances that were warnings of depression. While that certainly does not excuse his horrible acts, it should cause us to be more active in prevention! Research tells us most of the symptoms of mental illness are treatable... but where does a kid go that has alienated himself from parents and friends, doesn't have a job, etc...? I am mostly saddened for the victims and the consequences this one, disturbed, young man's actions will have in the long term of the families and friends' lives of those he killed.

Posted by: Lisa on Dec 6, 2007 at 05:45 AM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends of everyone involved in the shooting. Obviously Robert Hawkins was under extreme duress and snapped. I hope we can all find enough love in our hearts this season to see beyond the harm this young man did and keep in mind that his family and friends are hurting as well as the family and friends of all the victims. Sometimes the true meaning of faith, love and charity is to somehow find a way to forgive the unforgivable and rise above. A very good friend lost an adored family member yesterday. I wish for strength and faith for us all as we try to understand the reason behind all this.

Posted by: Nick on Dec 6, 2007 at 05:43 AM
Fewer guns, less violence. It's that simple. To some of the people on this message board: Some of you sound more heartless, incompassionate, and mindless than the disturb child who shot all those people. Have you no decency or awareness of your own hypocrisy? (e.g.- Lady Tas, saveyourself) My condolences to all those who where involved and my thanks to all those who helped. I think it's well passed the time to look at our own society and judge it appropriately. We need to evolve and adapt and get rid of outdated, archaic laws. Strict gun control and responsible social policy now! We are all in this together.

Posted by: L on Dec 6, 2007 at 05:28 AM
I teach school and you would be shocked at how many kids are sooo excited for Christmas but really have NO idea what the word Christmas means... My point being, so many kids and adults have not been brought up with a religious background. Having a close relationship with even the idea of God, or just a group, would have given this young man a conscience. This boy was so depressed and so empty of spirit, that he thought it would be "stylish" to hurt others too in the process of taking out himself. He had no conscience. I worry there are more like him being bred this very moment. Parents, counselors, teachers...let's open our eyes and not be so submissive with all kids.

Posted by: Pete on Dec 6, 2007 at 05:27 AM
"Going out in style..." Interesting comment. If such evil actions generated no media publicity or "instant fame", would the weird misfits who commit such crimes still feel the same incentive to commit them? In medieval Europe, people committing such foul acts were buried at midnight, face down at a crossroads, with a stake through their heart. Hardly much fame and glory in that... Perhaps the guarantee of maximum publicity, and the anticipation and delight in it, spurs such modern-day maniacs on. That and the availability of guns, of course, but that's an American issue...

Posted by: Tony on Dec 6, 2007 at 05:06 AM
Please don't show this idiot's face in your coverage anymore, please don't give him what he wanted. The Lennon's won't even speak the name Mark David Chapman when talking about John Lennon's shooting so as not to give any publicity to the killer. I know this is a timely story, and you can't avoid saying the killer's name, but please refrain from showing his face.

Posted by: Philip on Dec 6, 2007 at 04:46 AM
"now I'll be famous." It's sad when this is what's most important in America today. What a sad story, especially this time of year. Mr. Hawkins, I hope you're famous where you're at now. Because you're not really famous here.

Posted by: George on Dec 6, 2007 at 04:32 AM
The shooter killed innocent men and women at random, showing no regard for the lives of others. He was caught up in his own self-inflicted anger at the world. What a selfish and evil act. While he was a pure representation of evil, in the coming days we'll see, through the prayers and thoughts of those around the world, that there is also good in this world. May the victims of this tragedy rest in peace.

Posted by: Empathetic on Dec 6, 2007 at 04:28 AM
My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who waited, in agony, today, not knowing if their loved ones were alright.

Posted by: t on Dec 6, 2007 at 03:59 AM
Lady Tas,the paramedics took the victims to the two hospitals that are equipped to handle trauma situations. Lets not get into the blame game. Although this had a very tragic outcome I think police and emergency personnel did a very good job and I hope this is the worst that Omaha will ever have to go through.

Posted by: Sergio Sanchez Jr on Dec 6, 2007 at 03:29 AM
i would first like send my prayers to all the family that are going througth this bad time. Well i have to say that the thing that happend on 12/5/07 was to me like we where going through 9/11 all over aging but to my ponit i think that we need to have more safty at all the malls all over and i think that we need to have cops insted of guards i will fell alot safe if that wehere to happend. dont get me wrong the guards do a good jobs but that the i fell take for you time and if you can pit this up on the tv so i can say what i have to say god bless all the fanilys .

Posted by: Emily on Dec 6, 2007 at 03:08 AM
Lady, I read that the fatalities were dead before the paramedics even arrived. Nothing could have saved them. My thoughts and prayers are with the victim's families, and I just pray that there aren't any copycat killers. What a tragedy. I still can't believe it happened. It's just surreal, like a nightmare.

Posted by: Kevin on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:55 AM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the victims of this terrible tragedy.

Posted by: Walter on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:55 AM
The common thread between these kids shooting random people in public places is that they're constantly harassed by peers, abused, left uneducated, and finally see a glamorous escape to all this torment in the form of going out in a shower of bullets. In no way would having CCW on the scene have much effect on the situation - I doubt anybody in that crowded situation would have had the courage to confidently return fire. In no way would banning or locking up firearms have helped - young people will always have the means to find firearms if they have the desire to. In short, this can only be blamed on this loser's personal weakness and the weakness of all the family and community support that he should have had but failed to stop this. Why is it always the messed-up, uncool, unintelligent losers that seem to be committing these acts? Because they have no other way out. Our society, which historically ignores the bottom, continues to ignore this class, resulting in these tragedies

Posted by: E on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:52 AM
Lady Tas, the reason they didnt take them to the "nearest hospital" (Methodist) is because CUMC and UNMC are the trauma centers for Omaha. They had the best chances for survival by going to hospitals that are set up to treat traumas rather than take them to a hospital that is not capable of handling the number of people wounded. Wednesday was CUMC's "trauma day". That's why the most seriously injured went there. The doctors and nurses there (and at UNMC) are some of the best in the state. Unfortunately, it appears the two who died at CUMC were probably too badly injured to be saved. (and no, I do not have any affiliation with either hospital other than having been an occasional patient there)

Posted by: John L on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:46 AM
Sorry to here what happened. My old home town. Love you all. Put your head up and enjoy the birth of Jesus, christmas and family. You are all in my prayers.

Posted by: Lady Tas on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:27 AM
Why did the paramedics not take the victims to the nearest hospital first to stablize them? Also my prayers are with the victims family and not for the gunmans due to if his own family would not support him then why should someone else

Posted by: saveyourself on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:20 AM
ADD and anti depressant drugs,broken homes/families,zero values,morals,responsibilities,no God, no love,isolation,depression and anger..there are millions of kids and adults out there that suffer these symptoms..there are millions of guns out there..ban them all tomorrow and strip search everyone who goes to the mall with TSA people..it doesn't matter people will always find a way to kill and hurt one another when they feel slighted or wronged..at the end of the day the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with one, as was proven in Utah when an off duty policeman stopped the killing by returning fire with his pistol.If you don't want to take responsibility to defend you own life and your families then stay at home and shop on the net..its a dangerous world full of dangerous people would it matter if he used a car and ran people over in the parking lot? The people would still be dead and injured.Take some responsibility for your own protection there is no safe world

Posted by: Stephanie on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:18 AM
I've known Robbie since elementary school, and I never thought he would be capable of something so extreme, he seemed like a nice, quiet guy. We lost touch over the last few years, and now I wish I'd really been able to see what was going on inside his head. For all those that like to point blame at guns, when did a gun ever shoot someone all by itself? For all those that like to point blame at video games, when did a video game go out and kill people all by itself? It's people that make the decision to do what Robbie did today. Nobody can make that choice for them; nobody can force them to do something so radical. We need to start caring more about PEOPLE and less about the material things. I'm not a believer in God, so I will not pray, but my thoughts are with all of the victims of today's tragic events.

Posted by: Tim on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:14 AM
I feel sad about the Shootings in nearby Omaha, I know the young man had problems, I had the same problems too,I just didn't go out and kill innocent people in the middle of the hoilday season while x-mas shopping. He could've and should've seeked professional help from a mental health professional, however people like Mr Hawkins refuse and you got chaos like what happened at Virginia Tech in April and what happen in Omaha today. If they have problems like his tell them to get help and not let a mass murder spree just happen, because events like this can be prevented you have to be a real friend and stop him/her from doing this Insane Carneage.

Posted by: Michael on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:13 AM
I just want to say I am deeply saddened by all of this and am praying for the victims of this tragic shooting and their families. I am a frequent shopper of that mall when I come to Omaha, and whenever I go there again, it will never be the same.

Posted by: John on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:12 AM
Keep an eye out for the next "nut" and turn him/her in!!!!! God Bless those who were killed and harmed.

Posted by: KMS on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:08 AM
It is amazing that people all over the world is hearing about this. Maybe this is a wake up call for better gun control in the Omaha area. I feel horrible about what happened and my thoughts and prays goes tot he family and friends of the victims. I know i heard from people in England and Cali. that was even before I heard about it and I live here. Amazing work Omaha Police! Getting there in 6 minutes....again amazing! This is truley horrible.

Posted by: Tom on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:07 AM
WOW! It only shows that gun laws kill thanks to a morons like the management of malls, schools, and the Government that makes every honest effort to make sure the only ones who have guns are people like "Robert Hawkins". If more people had guns this killer could have been stopped! We need law to hold those who ignore the US Constitution accountable (the law) by legislating against the law!

Posted by: tonya on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:06 AM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victim's families. May god bless you all. We need to stop putting his name and picture on the news. I cant stand looking at him anymore. Besides that is what he wanted. He wanted to the attention so why should we give it to him. We need to focus on helping the people that was there and ones that lost loved ones. They are the ones who we need to be thinking about. Not on his pass or whatever else.

Posted by: matt on Dec 6, 2007 at 02:01 AM
I am not a wealthy individual, but in this season of giving and in lieu of a tragedy which I have not been a part of in my community, if there's one gift I can give in this season of giving it would be in the form of a donation of some sort to the families involved who have no choice but to deal with the ramifications of these inexplicable acts as of late. There is no amount of money that can sooth the hearts of those who have lost, but I am more than willing and able to donate $10 in a collective effort to show the families involved that we as a community are here for them in their time of sorrow. All of you posting here are fully aware that it could have been any of us looking for answers, when there are none. Think about the debt's those lost have left behind for the families to pick up before we think money can't buy happiness, It sure can help in a time of need. I hope and pray that we can get enough responses, so that WOWT or whoever can start a fund for those in need.

Posted by: Dr. Cindy on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:57 AM
Are you asking how this could possibly happen? It is a well known fact that a certain subset of people contemplating suicide feel the need to kill others at the time of taking their own lives. People don't usually commit suicide without their friend and family being well aware of the deep sadness the person is experiencing. It is too bad that those people around this young man ignored his comments and actions that occured prior to today's tragic event.

Posted by: L.G. on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:34 AM
Merry Christmas... That's one hell of a way to start the holidays. What's funny here is after an incident like this there's a bunch of morons underneath arguing that we need more people carrying weapons not less. After all the school, work, and recreational place shootings you guys really think we need more guns not less. Sheesh, no wonder these stories keep going on and on, year after year. I mean hell if somebody had a hand grenade or a bazooka in the mall maybe they could have stopped this tragedy. Idiots.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:28 AM
Utah is still healing from the mall shooting earlier this year. This affects so many!! I grew up in Omaha, have many memories of shopping at Westroads. This hits home more so than the TrolleySquare shooting here in Utah. Omaha area needs to grieve and it will be weeks before life feels normal again. I hope the families are comforted in this time of sorrow and pain.

Posted by: Cheri on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:24 AM
Why do you have the gunman's picture up on your homepage?!? By displaying his picture with his name, you are giving him exactly what he wanted! Shame on you WOWT for doing this! You should be showing pictures of the brave survivors from this young man's brutality, not making him more famous...just like he wanted!

Posted by: Leonardo on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:21 AM
First of all I would like to say that may God be with the victims and the victim's families. Then again, we never know why this could've happened but one thing I know is that this is a wake up call for Omaha citizens to be on the look out for future dramatic scenes like today's. Everyone in Omaha trusts each other WAY TOO MUCH making. Then again, we have to accept the fact that everyone around here lives a routinary life style. A life style that could get you to get out of control. Not an excuse to shoot everyone but people lose sight of what's important and what's not. Then again, this is not an excuse but there has to be something done about the way people live in Omaha. Let there be more places to go. Let the gas prices be lower so we can actually go out a lot more without worrying about paying too much gas. Let there be less racism and descrimination. If everyone would help, things like this would not occur and we could live in a happier world.

Posted by: Zack on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:18 AM
Do some of you really believe that the mayor or police chief could have prevented this, or that someone with a concealed weapon would have been the answer. This is a societal problem, do not place the blame on one person or law. This is a problem that starts with how we are raising our young, how we are educating them, and where the priorities are for all of us right now. While I am in no way condoning this man's actions, he is the product of many inputs, from parenting to mass media. We need to take a look at everything we do and how it affects our population. There is no quick answer to this. A different mayor or police chief would not have changed the atrocious events of today.

Posted by: Shelley on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:12 AM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends of the lives impacted by Wednesday's events. May God bless the victims' families especially, during what will be a difficult holiday season.

Posted by: M on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:10 AM
"Why are the police chief and Mayor out of town on a day the president is in town?" This is a great question!

Posted by: Derek on Dec 6, 2007 at 01:05 AM
First my heart goes out to the families that were involved in this tragic incident. The only person to blame is the shooter. He was the one that had the idea that killing himself and others was "in style." Thats just sad when someone doesn't have the help he/she needs to be a better person or feel good about themselves. There are many people out there that are just as deppressed and down on their luck, but we get through it and keep on living day by day trying to make a great life for ourselves. You can look anywhere and see deppressed people. Look them in the eye and smile. Maybe they will too.

Posted by: AD on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:48 AM
I lived in Omaha for over 26 years. I am truly devistated that something like this would happen in my home town. My prayers and thoughts are with the families that were put through this tragedy because some lunatic decided he wanted to be "famous".

Posted by: yvonne on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:48 AM
how sad...the comment of maniko taking her mic and hitting that kid on the head is the best submitted thus far! i hope his parents saw his pathetic comments and gives him a reality check real soon. what's up with these young kids? we used to refer to them as vidiots years ago, not realizing how messed up many of them have become after playing the violent video games for hours on end..no grasp of reality. how very sad for the VICTIMS and THEIR FAMILIES/FRIENDS

Posted by: Bob on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:45 AM
In response to all you "Let's blame supporters of owning guns": I own 3 guns (a hand gun and 2 rifles). I have never been tempted to go on a shooting spree. The reason our founding fathers wrote that Americans have the right to bear arms is to keep our government in check, so that they will not attempt to become tyrannical. This shooting today is a tragedy. This was one mixed up kid. The fact that weapons were obtainable is not the issue. The fact that lot of these mixed up kids have no love and discipline in their lives has everything to do with it. Ever since God has been removed from every aspect of life in this country, we have seen the constant decay of our society. Live and learn! My heart goes out to the victims of this senseless act. You are all in my prayers.

Posted by: I S on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:42 AM
This horrible tragedy has nothing to do with who is in office or who is president or where the police chief was, etc, etc, etc.This KID was troubled.It wasn't because of a gun it was because of a messed up KID.(He supposedly stole it from a relative.)Bottom Line it all stems back to Family and GOD.The absence of GOD leads to evil.If this KID had a strong family background growing up, this may not have happened.I pray for the families of EVERYONE involved.I also THANK OUR LORD for my family, for always being there and for my Parents doing an Awesome Job raising us.And YES it is a JOB!GOD Bless us All!

Posted by: Randy on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:41 AM
First off all u guys crying and talking about CCW need to stop.Shut up about them.Families are grieving tonite and all u guys carry about are concealed weapons.My heart goes out to the families.May god see u thru this.Do you think permit would not have stopped this?Do I think that if someone had one it would have stop this?,maybe.Do I think it would have hurt?NO.However Im not gonna turn my main focus on any of that.These families are hurting rite now,so lets stop this stupid argument now. We need to focus on the victims and there families. We need to send our sympathy. Everyone wants a safer place,Well we could all use this to come together and help the friends,the families and each other.A strong community starts from within.So lets move passed the the arguements on permits and not permits,and start permitting ourselves to lean on each other for support when needed.Once again my LOVE,SUPPORT and PRAYERS go out to all of the victims.May god help u heal on this tragic day.

Posted by: steve on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:38 AM
I hope and pray that all the news coverage does not focus on this sick killer just as they have done with past killings at several schools. The killer and name should be forgotten and buried with his shame. What a coward to kill unarmed woman shopping over the holiday season and then to turn the gun on himself,WHAT A SICK COWARD! I feel for his mother who now has to carry the shame as well of what her son has left behind, she does not deserve his legacy. I have heard he was on medication, I think we need to look at who was perscibing a now killer medication. I am outraged by this State for allowing people to have access to weapons, I am 44 and would have a very hard time to obtain a weapon and yet the kids of America can obtain them with ease. What a sad day for Omaha and the victoms of a sick sick person, sadly people will spend their time trying to figure him out and waste time and money doing it. Lets put our time, prayer and efforts into helping the families of the true victoms.

Posted by: Mary on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:35 AM
Omaha is home for my family. For those who believe Omaha is violent. . .It is still safer than most US Cities. This tragedy reaches far and wide. Obviously its made National and Intl news. Please know there are millions of people who are praying for the victims, families, and the entire community tonight. God bless you and may he bring you strength in this new journey.

Posted by: Krystal on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:27 AM
Okay i understand that yes everyone has their opinion but people get real, yes laws should be strickter but if this wouldnt of happened would you have noticed it? My prayers go out to all the families or the victims and those who are still fighting for their life. It takes something this big and this dramatic to get our attention as a city, or just for that matter get our attention as individuals, yes there are some people out there that are a little unstable and those people will in the end get their punishment but to sit on here and complain that the mall and government isnt doing their job by keepin us safe, common. im only eightteen years old and i can even realize that its not them its us. walkin to our car could get us killed, its all about the place and time. their are crazy people everywhere. This is a scary thing and will make an impact in all of us. but this is the time to pray for those loved ones that were taken from us and for those that still need us to pray for them.

Posted by: Tess on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:23 AM
I think this is time for America to realize that we need security guards with metal detectors to check mall entrances, schools,banks,etc.before more situations like this happen again. I am from a foreign country and we do have security people to check before you enter the malls. ALso even had to show our bags before we enter our college. I am sure America can do that. Security cameras cannot do all the work.!!!

Posted by: stan on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:21 AM
Dennis, what do you want? Shame on the news for reporting his name? The story? What? Obviously you watched/read. Let's not sit in our cushy arm chairs and protend to have all the answers. I think the news reported the facts/story in a reasonable manner. I'm not sure Freud could give a diagnosis (of his friends) from a 2 minute interview on television, how can you? Just shut up.

Posted by: Angela on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:18 AM
As a former Omaha resident, who shopped at this mall many times as a teen, I am very saddened to hear such a cold and ruthless act has taken place. It is also hard because it is so close to Christmas. I give my sincerest condolences to the family and friends of the victims of this horrific crime. Everyone has a personal responsibility to make and keep Omaha safe. I hope that there will consideration for increased security not only at this mall, but malls all across this country. My prayers are for everyone involved and affected by this horrible crime.

Posted by: Monica on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:16 AM
Stop posting his picture and his name. Enough! Let's not give him what he wanted.

Posted by: Dar on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:15 AM
Millions of psychos in America. This kid was just one of them. I have never ever seen a gun kill anybody all by itself. It was always in the hands of some nut case like this guy.

Posted by: Sara P on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:14 AM
My prayers and thoughts for the people of my hometown. This is not an issue of gun control or police forces. This is an issue of the sickness in our society. Our love of violence in video games, our inability to care for strangers and those who need it most. Don't let this young man perpetuate fear of the other in your hearts. God did no call him home, this kid made a decision based on his environment, circumstances, and perceptions. God does not cause these things, WE do. Violence and fear in our hearts beget violence and fear in our society.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:11 AM
Please pray for the man who was shot in the chest. He is in critical condition after 7 hours of surgery. Keep him in your thoughts and prayers so that he may make it through all of this.

Posted by: Heather on Dec 6, 2007 at 12:08 AM
I pray for all the families and victims, of the Westroads Mall Massacre. It's a shame it had to happen. Thanks to all employees who helped the survivors, get out alive. If not for Omaha police department it might have kept on going and going. Thanks to all the paramedics, who helped get the people the help they needed, and for trying to save those who didn't. Holidays are not supposed to be unhappy times. GOD BLESS!!!!!

Posted by: kath on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:55 PM
I have been following this horrifying story all day.My prayers go out to the victims and their families and the people who were present to witness this, for they are victims as well. I know talk of gun control at a time like this seems insensitive. But it is actually an opportunity to discuss a very important topic so that, maybe, thru various points of veiw we can come up with some ideas for tragedies such as this to be prevented in the future. These individuals will not have died in vain. Both sides of the gun control issue have valid points. I,myself would never choose to carry a gun(they terrify me)But I cannot in all honesty say I would not feel safer if I knew that there might be someone nearby(who is trained and legally allowed to carry a concealed weapon)who could protect me should something like this occur. This young man walked into a crowded mall with an illegally obtained and very unconcealed firearm. There was nothing anyone could do.

Posted by: Laura on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:47 PM
My heart and prayers go out to everyone involved with this tragedy. EXCEPT THE GUNMAN AND HIS FAMILY. Gun control is NOT the answer. This idiot walked into a crowded mall with a loaded ASSAULT RIFLE. WITH HOLLOW-POINT AMMO. And his parents threw up their hands and threw him out of the house. They are YOUR KIDS. RAISE THEM. You morons. Or don't have them. Better security in public places is the answer, as is every law-abiding citizen carrying a firearm (pistol). I for one will be signing up for the concealed-carry class...I talked a good game until today, but TODAY convinced me that I need to protect myself. ANYWHERE in this town is unsafe (by the way, I am sure the NCAA knows of this, but I WILL be sending them a record of all shootings north of Dodge and East of 24th Street, There goes your new stadium Fahey...wait, he wasn't even HERE today.

Posted by: jason on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:45 PM
yo i watched about the tradegy today i think it was aweful really seein people die for somethin they never did and a 19 yr old man kilin em is sicking to me my prayers and heart goes out to the victims of the familys of the dacestes ty

Posted by: todd andrews sr on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:40 PM
i was at work saw police cars going west on dodge about 130pm today. my prays go to family friends emlopees at the store god be with them. im shock about this.seen this on tv i want to cry but i didnt.we need to comfort each other stay together have god be with us. we gun law start right now keep away kids.after the reports were upsetabout this.they want to cry ican see this.try to go sleep tonight you cant remember what happen today. from todd andrews sr from omaha.

Posted by: Annonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:31 PM
May God comfort these families involved in this senseless tragedy. My love goes out to my family in the area and I would hope that people like this could learn to take this out on themselves and not involve us all. God Bless Omaha and the surrounding communitites.

Posted by: Carrie on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:30 PM
Why are we giving this guy a face and a name, I guess he did "Go out in style" thanks to the media, cover the incident, it must be done, but lets not focus on the shooter, that is what he wanted. If we continue to give all this attention to the shooters, this will continue to happen. lets focus on the victims and the circumstances. the headlines should read "19 y/o Looser residing in sarpy Co is responsible for this massecre." no name no details. I continue to pray for the victims and their families

Posted by: Jim on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:28 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. I was waiting for something like this to happen here was just hoping it wouldnt. may God be with all involved.

Posted by: Eric on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:27 PM
It saddens me to see another case like this. As one who struggles in a similar manner in my life, and also as someone with a mental disorder, I strongly believe more could have been done for this young man. The system is too diluted; there is no real effort to help people. We need to work on how to help cases like these to prevent such tragedies from happening. My heart especially goes out to the family and friends of the shooter.

Posted by: Sad and hurt on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:25 PM
My heart goes out to the people of Nebraska. Pray to God for everyone who was killed or hurt. My heart goes out to the families and friends who lost their love ones today. We need to send the victims of this horrible tragedy money and prayers.

Posted by: Carolyn on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:24 PM
To all the familys, friends, and neighbors you are all in my prayers. It was wrong for that young man to take the lives of innocent people. I am deeply saded by the lives that were taken by this young man. I feel that if he was so upset he should of just went and got some help from a doctor or just ask someone to talk about what was buging him cause no one ask for this. some of the people just wanted to go out and shop for there children and there wifes and there loved ones. I hope and pray that after today that they make a law that bans guns, and every other dangrous tools and weapons that could be used to harm innocent people and there family,friends and neighbors. The crime rate in Nebraska is very uncalled for. I feel that no one should ever be aloud to have guns or any type of harmful weapon in there possion at any time.

Posted by: ngundeng on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:14 PM
my prayer goes out to victim and the parents I know some like this shouldn,t happen but people are not the sames my blessing.

Posted by: Tony on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:13 PM
I hope once the names are released and the funerals begin, that this 24/7 news coverage will continue for the people who TRULY deserve to have the focus on them. I want to see photos and hear about the life of each person taken away too soon.....and not have Mr. Hawkins' photo front page. I understand he was troubled. That he had some hard times. EVERY human being has hardships to face in this life. Our choices are what define us...and Thank God most of us never choose to attack our fellow man.

Posted by: Scott Curtis on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:13 PM
More gun control would not have stopped this. It was already illegal for this person to carry a gun, due to his age. What could have helped here was an armed citizen, but the mall decided that best way to ensure public safety was to prevent people who follow the rules from carrying guns. But hey, we all know criminals obey signs. When will people learn that Gun-Free Zones = Unarmed Victim Zones

Posted by: Shannon on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:12 PM
If guns shoot people do pencils misspell words? Nope people do.

Posted by: Keith on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:07 PM
Everyone on here that is saying that if someone else in the store would have had a gun there would be less deaths is a complete IDIOT! A shootout between two un-trained people probally would have resulted in more deaths. This isnt the movies folks or the wild west. This is a fricken tragedy and we need to outlaw guns in omaha. For those that say guns are necesary for home protection, BUY A FRICKEN ALARM SYSTEM. No one needs a firearm in Omaha.

Posted by: Bill on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:06 PM
anti-gun democrats are to blame. you want guns to only be in the hands of criminals and the police that are elsewhere. republicans want to give law-abiding citizens the ability to defend themselves

Posted by: Jeff on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:03 PM
It's deep shame something like this had to happen.Innocent people who this person never had layed eyes on are dead or hurt. Taking anger out on someone else will not help anything at all..For the family's at least some justice is here, the killer is dead, no state money (taxes) to feed or house this type of horrific murderer and will never have to worry about this person getting out of prison.

Posted by: John on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:01 PM
Newsflash... the gun didn't kill anyone, the loser boy did. I agree with the last comment, If more of us law abiding citezens carried guns, less of this would happen. As the old addage goes "Guns don't kill people. People kill people" The blame lies solely on this young man, no one else. Put the blame where it belongs! If we didn't have guns he would've used something else. We can't outlaw everything!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:01 PM
Everyone pray I lost a close woman to me tonight. She worked at Von Maur and she and her husband always went above and beyond to help everyone out! Her name was Jan Jorgenson...keep her and her family in your prayers.

Posted by: Karen on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:00 PM
I used to live in Omaha, but I'm living in a city of over 2 million people in Canada. Things like this don't happen here, and for a good reason. Guns are difficult to get. I can't believe what's happening to Omaha. Hells Angels, drive by shootings NIGHT AFTER NIGHT, gernades in parking lots, and now massacre in the mall. Omaha sure isn't what it used to be....how sad.

Posted by: Emily on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:00 PM
I pray for the people who were lost and who were involved in any way and for the parents of the shooter. The people who are saying things about gun laws obviously weren't that broken up if they are still fighting, that is how people lose their lives, by people FIGHTING, sometimes all it takes is ONE mean comment. Have a heart people the parents did the best they could, divorced or not, the guy was 19. I'm 19 and my son is 18 mons. I am a good parent, and I am single, quit trying to find blame, God gave freedom of choice for a reason. I'm dissapointed at this area for argueing and not coming closer together it's disapointing and in some ways makes me sad to be a part of this area. Have hearts people, love is what people need not more arguements, if you want to argue go to a city council meeting and argue, this is for the suffering people and family of EVERYONE anywhere. Merry Christmas to all. God Bless the victims including the shooters family.

Posted by: Becky on Dec 5, 2007 at 11:00 PM
First of all, our thoughts and prayers go out to all effected by this tragedy. Thank you for the selfless acts by the OPD, DCS & all enforcment agencies involved. They went in with out fear for their own safety to protect and serve. Bless you! Now enough with the nice talk. After reading all of the above comments, a lot of you are IDIOTS! Why can't anyone take responsability for our own actions. People blaming Bush, Fahey, OPD for not responding fast enough, why not blame Santa Claus too! Come on! There is one person and one person alone to blame, the shooter. I pray for all of your souls for all the cruel & nasty things you have all said about everyone that didn't pull the trigger! Open your eyes & minds people!! This is the society that we all have created because no one wants to take responsability for our own actions, we want to blame everyone else.

Posted by: Billie on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:58 PM
If you don't like guns, don't carry one, but I do.

Posted by: Ann on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:56 PM
I ditto N.A. Sheeple of CB. Instead of giving the murderers the upper hand, we have to protect ourselves. One person with a gun could have resolved the problem in a flash! I am praying for the victims, the gun man and their families and friends.

Posted by: Jeff on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:55 PM
I don't understand why these kids think killing innocent people is glorifying. If he wanted to end his life, then he should have done just that. Not take 9 others away from their loved ones for an attempt at fame. To me it proved nothing but Robert's own cowardice and inability to cope with everyday life. My heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families.

Posted by: G on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:54 PM
First and foremost my sympothy goes out to the victims of this incident. Second off I would just like to thank the Fire Fighters Emts and Police Officers. They have a tough job and they all responded fast in a quick manner. It was nice to see they took all the precautions to assure the safety of other indviduals and secure the scene of this event. Even though this is a horrible event it is good to see that we have squadrons that are quick to respond and take action. It is a shock that this happend, but has been eye opener to me and hopefully everyone that has followed this story. It is a reminder to us all that no matter were we live, that a tragic event like this can happen anywere and to anyone.

Posted by: Jeff on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:52 PM
This is horrible that this has happend, I feel so bad I am praying for the families and victims.

Posted by: Jeannie on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:50 PM
A VERY HUGE TRAGEDY TODAY IN OMAHA! #1.WHY ARE WE PICKING ON THE MAYOR AND THE POLICE CHIEF? #2 THANKS PRESIDENT BUSH FOR VISITING #3 WHAT WOULD GUN CONTROL DO? PEOPLE AS SICK AS THIS INDIVIDUAL CAN GET GUNS ANYWHERE, PEOPLE CARRYING GUNS ARE NOT PEOPLE CARRYING ASSAULT RIFLES! #4 THANKS OPD, NEWS PEOPLE, CHAPLAINS, NMC,CMC AND FIRE AND RESCUE AND WESTROADS PERSONNEL. #5 MAKE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS - STOP BLAMING DEPRESSION AND OTHER FACTORS - WE ARE ALL DEPRESSED AT SOME POINT OF OUR LIVES - COME ON PEOPLE STEP UP TO THE PLATE THERE IS 13 VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES THAT ARE NOW DEPRESSED FOR THE TRAGEDY. BRING GOD, PRAYER, AND COMMANDENTS BACK TO LIFE! TAKE ACCOUNT FOR YOUR ACTIONS - WE ALL HAVE THINGS HAPPEN TO US - STOP BLAMING AND START TAKING CONTROL OF YOUR LIFES! IT SOUNDS LIKE HE WAS A MESSED UP KID WHO LIKE TO SMOKE POT AND HE WAS FEELING SORRY FOR HIMSELF - MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD PERSON , GOT AN EDUCATION IN A FREE COUNTRY AND BE A USA CITIZEN!

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:49 PM
I love all the people that think we should have mall security, wal mart security, and furniture mart security. What do you think, we should just have a guy with a gun and badge that follows you through your whole day to make sure you're safe while you shop? Give me a break.

Posted by: N.A. Sheeple on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:46 PM
The end was supposed to read "More gun control is also -NOT- the answer, Taking guns away from the law abiding only serves to increase the pool of unarmed ready made victims."

Posted by: Chadwick on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:44 PM
I heard what one of Hawkins's friend said earlier about him being a normal guy and definitely not a "little terrorist". Well, according to common sense, people who go and shoot people intending to be "famous and in style" are 100% terrorist and what the whole world would call a little insane.I am furious at his friend's comments, I mean, how can someone be so blind! This is probably why these kids are doing such horrible things, because they are not taught without blindfolds. Talk to your children with the truth and liberate yourselves and your children from committing such unfortunate crimes.

Posted by: Michelle on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:44 PM
I can't say this enough-- an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... Fix our mental health treatment systems!! This was a disturbed kid with poor mental health support. If we took the care of our children and citizens seriously, guns would not be the main issue. We must ask ourselves, however, why a "civilized" nation such as ours suffers from acts of gun violence on such a horrific scale in comparison to other "civilized" nations who ban their citizens from possessing these weapons. The more of us who have access to guns, the higher the probability some of us will be too mentally ill to properly determine appropriate usage. This is a tragic situation, simply tragic... for the 8 people gunned down in that mall and the 1 kid who felt this was the only way to get people to pay attention.

Posted by: Ray on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:40 PM
This is a horrific circumstance to occur anywhere, let alone in Omaha, Nebraska, especially coming up to Christmas. We should demonstrate our sorrow and sympathy for the families of all of the victims of this terrible occurrence. I suggest we take an evening to mourn for those hurt and killed (including the troubled young man who was so depressed that he committed such an act). We could leave our Christmas decorations or home decor lighting off for an evening (possibly Saturday or Sunday night) with the exception of security lighting. Our darkened homes, prepared and brimming with such promise of the excitement and joy of the upcoming season, will replicate the loss of so many promising lives (and our city's innocence).

Posted by: Josh on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:39 PM
I love it how some people make this situation out to be something else like about gun control or that he was a disturbed KID who's parents left a gun out for him????? He was 19 years old. How about all the responsibily lays with the shooter and his coward actions. The only prayer i will pray tonight is that this pathetic excuse for a human being feel the flames of Hades!!!!!!!

Posted by: Susie on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:36 PM
I am an 18 year old girl that got kicked out of my house last year and I had to go live with church members that offered their help. I got kicked out because one of my siblings got a divorce and I had to give up my room for her and her 3 children, I didn't think it was fair and I fought to keep my rights as a young woman who needs h er privacy. Anyway, The father of the family I had to go live with tried to take sexual advantage of me and I still had to go to church and see him play his guitar fooling everyone with his holiness. I never said anything because they wouldn't believe me, but I kept my head up high because I knew that even if I was being stomped on so harshly, better days would shine on me. So to find out that some guy did this tradegy thing is just ridiculous! I ALSO broke up with my boyfriend while living abused with my fake holy family and I have also been fired from a McDonald's too make it extra ironic. This is a childish act and non-else.

Posted by: TA on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:34 PM
This person wanted to go out big? Like any of us will remember his name in a few weeks. I know I wont. In fact I already forgot it. Too bad he had to be so selfish to harm and kill other people. I hope all of the families of his victims can all find peace in this terrible tragedy. Im also very glad that this loser is dead. All I can say is Kudos for turning the gun on himself. If I could go to his funeral I would spit on his casket.

Posted by: stan on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:32 PM
Absolutely aghast at what happened and the response from viewers. Change the gun laws, so everyone can carry a gun with impugnity? Yeah, that's the answer. All the hot heads, unrational people out there are now armed?? For an incident that happened once in a blue moon? Let's let calmer heads prevail. There are certain things that occur beyond our control. Let's not give in to knee jerk reactions. Let's think this thru.

Posted by: N. A. Sheeple on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Let’s hope everyone will learn from this tragedy. Lesson 1: The only person that can protect you from people like him is yourself. Lesson 2: Accept the fact that the Security/Police will always arrive after the fact. Lesson 3: Nebraska has a CCW program for this very purpose. USE IT! If just one of the victims or people around them had-had a CCW and ignored westroads gun free policy then the death toll could have been greatly reduced. Gun free policies are not any form of guarantee as to the safety of the visitors or employees. To the contrary the signs scream "Here is a place full of potential victims with no means to stop me." More gun control is also the answer, Taking guns away from the law abiding only serves to increase the pool of unarmed ready made victims.

Posted by: Rebecca on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:28 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims. We will never understand why God decides to call people home but I do know that the deceased are in heaven. Things like this shouldn't happen here in Omaha. I want to thank the police and first responders for the wonderful job they did in both assisting the victims and for making sure that the survivors were taken care. May God bless everyone involved

Posted by: Lacy Jones on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:28 PM
First of all, my prayers are with the families of the victims, I feel that the Malls any mall,schools,post offices,should have armed security,and then maybe just maybe,this would not happen. I think this Country is in trouble, we need to change our gun laws. This way, an armed Security Guard could help in defense,or at least install detectors that would be able to detect guns.Some how some way,the laws should be changed.But one person cannot do this alone, we all need to work together on this matter,as a Country !!!!!!!!!!!! This is a total,senseless, Tragedy. May God be with all of the family and friends............

Posted by: Laura on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:28 PM
Has everyone forgotten about this pyscho's friend who was interviewed? the one that thinks, "its not that bad, life goes on. he died a star". i think that someone needs to help his friends before they turn out like robby. HIS FRIEND WAS BASICALLY LAUGHING RIGHT AS THEY STARTED THE INTERVIEW!!! something is seriously wrong with these kids. In all honestly I wish robby wouldn't have killed himself, then he could be sent to jail where he could rott for the HORRIBLE thing he did today. rest in peace to those whom he hurt, and those effected by it. My prayers are with you.

Posted by: Dennis on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:27 PM
Disgusting and sickening. A PHS student no less - my alma mater in 1964. For every troubled young man like this, there are literally hundreds of thousands of others capable of the same thing and then we make them the hero they wanted to be by splashing their story around like a celebrity. We gave up decades ago trying to treat the mentally ill and troubled of the world - now we just give them drugs and hope for the best. While this boy's life was troubled, it was far from unusual, having seen many just like him in college and high school classes I have taught. When referred to proper authorities for professional help, they are ignored and at best, given more pills. Interestingly, his friends interviewed by the media appear just as troubled. A final thought - this acting out of his dream to become "infamous" comes straight from TV, movies and the glorification of this insanity at every level of the media circus. Shame on all those who perpetuate this national repetitive behavior.

Posted by: Leon on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:26 PM
These pro-gun Republicans are to blame every time there is a massacre like this. If you allow everybody to have a gun it's inevitable that some crazy fellow will use a gun to kill people.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Gun control!

Posted by: RTC on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:22 PM
I extend my deepest sympathies to the families and friends of those who died today. May god be with you. I also find is grossly shameful that the hate filled anti gun extremists would use this tragedy as a platform to spew their gun control statements and agendas. I sincerely hope the following people will realize the disgrace they brought to themselves by the statements they made on this forum: mz cali. Location: california Andy Location: Richmond VA anonymous Location: unknown jjj Location: omaha concerned Location: Iowa Michelle Location: Omaha Dan Location: Omaha Truth Location: Omaha KC Location: Omaha steve Location: lincoln Katie Location: Omaha martha williams Location: omaha. Ben Location: Omaha jOE Location: OMAHA C Location: Omaha Jan Location: Amarillo, TX Jen ??? BD Location: Omaha Concerned Location: Omaha Kim Location: Omaha Cathy Location: Omaha

Posted by: Heather on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:19 PM
I work down in Lincoln at the southpoint mall where another Von Maur is. When we first heard about the shooting we thought it was here and almost locked our doors! This hit us down here in the capitol as well. You never know when or where somthing like this could happen.

Posted by: Leroy on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:19 PM
It is really too bad that there was not a law abiding citizen on the scene carrying a concealed weapon. This could have all been stopped at one or two murders had someone had the tools and training to respond. You simply can not rely on the police for protection, all they do is come clean up the scene and interview witnesses. Citizens need to be able to protect themselves. Businesses that bar concealed weapons, and municipalities that bar concealed weapons near to realize that this stops people with respect for the law, it does not stop people who have a criminal purpose and do not respect the law. Peace to everyone who lost someone today. This event is truly tragic and strikes close to home.

Posted by: mary on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:16 PM
fired by mcdonalds broke up with girlfriend kicked out of his own house introvert All of this spells out a kid who is vulnerable. Of course what this kid did was horrific. But, he was also, a victim. Why didn't he get the support that he so needed? Why didn't the people around him help him?

Posted by: Affected on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:16 PM
Thank you Joshua in Papilion. Yes people like this need help but often times they feel they have no option and often feel un-loved. They want to inflect pain on others as the pain has been inficted on them. If people would make more of an effort to get along and promote peace instead of hate the world would be a much better place. The people who don't understand are often part of the problem. So take a look at your self the next time you pick on someone or make fun of someone and realize just how much you maybe affecting them.

Posted by: Chris on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:16 PM
I would really like to thank WOWT, KETV, KMTV, KPTM, etc. for giving this guy just what he wanted: for everyone to know who he was. I would also like to "thank you" in advance for the next guy that goes off and does the same thing because he knows that the media will serve him well for his actions. I have no problem with you telling the story, but it would be great if you said "We don't know his name, and we don't care. For to tell his name would be to justify his actions." To bad our (at least my) relationship with the media has become on of love and hate. Please try to do what is right not what gives the most shock.

Posted by: Trevor on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:15 PM
I think that this kid definetly had some problems. If your going to kill yourself anyways why take the lives of innocent people? It just doesn't make sense. My sympathy goes out to all of those affected by this tragedy. It is now time for the community of Omaha to come together.

Posted by: John on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:08 PM
Anyone who wants to deny weapons to law abiding citizens doesn't understand the timeline that criminals operate. You can't always wait on the police, by the time they got there, it was all over. The criminal had already done all the damage that he could do. My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families.

Posted by: Kaela on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:07 PM
All of this is just ridiculous. We all need to just realize how this can happen anywhere it not north omaha its not west omaha its not LA chicago or New York city it can happen anywhere. This is so sad that someone would feel that they needed to so something like this to prove a point or to become "known" he hurt so many people and cause many to loose their lives... this is more then tragic. My prays are with everyone.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:07 PM
I don't understand, who the hell would give anyone with a "troubled" background a weapon??

Posted by: Jim on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:07 PM
I remember during the Reagen election, he would ask, are you better now than when the previous president took office? Omaha needs to ask itself, are we safer now than when this mayor and police chief took office? Time for change next election.

Posted by: lincmercguy on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:06 PM
I guess they won't post my comment thanking the police who were brave enough to enter the mall and find the shooter and help everyone. So many other shootings show police hiding behind their cars while people are dying. Kudos to the OPD.

Posted by: Heidi on Dec 5, 2007 at 10:04 PM
Never take life for granted. We wake up and expect a normal day, this goes to show that all we can do is cherish the time we have with friends and family. I will keep this in mind, especially during the holidays, as we all should. To all of the victims and families, and my fellow residents of Omaha: Be strong and always appreciate the time you spend with kin. My thoughts are with all of you.

Posted by: James on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:59 PM
My prayers are out for everyone that has been involved in this tragic news. i live in council bluffs ia. with my fiance michelle who was born in omaha and we have gone shopping at the west roads a couple of times.. never thought that this would happen there... but then again this is becoming more and more common when are they just gonna allow us to protect our selves more... more security like metal decitors.etc... I think something more needs to be done...We should not be worried about going out shopping even...

Posted by: Wendy on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:59 PM
I am originally from Omaha, and am just shocked at this senseless act. My thoughts and prayers go out to those who were forced to go though this terrible ordeal. And to the families of those who lost loved ones today. May God comfort you all.

Posted by: steph on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:56 PM
let us pray for the victims AND the gunman. while i certainly do not condone his actions, i know he had a family that loved him and they, too, are victims as well.

Posted by: MD on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:56 PM
Are you telling me the police chief and the Mayor of Omaha were not in town while the President was in town? Huh? I'm also with the guy who said how does a guy walk into a mall with a rifle unless he hid it under a long coat? Why were the security guards not armed? One ran away? Huh? I hate to say this, but one armed security guard might have been able to take this shooter down way before he killed people? I guess we may never know. Is it going to come down to having metal detectors everywhere for any public building on the planet? Tragic.

Posted by: Rebecca on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:53 PM
I was just in Omaha to visit my family for Thanksgiving, and was really shocked to hear about this today. My dear sister-in-law works at Westroads (at Yonkers) but was luckily not there today. As the day goes on, I grow more upset about such a thing happening, and in the beautiful city where I grew up. Just shocking. I hold all those affected in my thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: Robert on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:51 PM
This is why guns need to be kept in locked cabinets. Not only did the suspect have many problems he also knew he had easy access to a very dangerous weapon. Semi and auto-matic weapons have NO right being sold for hunting, we see the events that sadly unfold when these weapons are made mainstream and unfortunately there will never be an answer for the lives lost because of negligence and sick sick people taking innocent lives just because they cannot handle their own. How will the NRA defend this tragedy.

Posted by: Kermit on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:51 PM
Surprise, surprise...the Mayor and the Police Chief were out of town. Is the Mayor ever in town??

Posted by: Mike on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:49 PM
He did this there because he knew no one would be armed and able to stop him- this mall does not allow law-abiding citizens to carry their weapons. It's the same reason why there is shooting in schools, these maniacs know they will be able to do what they wish before someone is able to stop them. Please, change these laws before more of us are murdered for the sake of politicians feeling good.

Posted by: diane l on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:49 PM
Such tragedy should remind us of what is important: Our families, friends, and neighbors. It also should remind us how quickly our lives can change. In an instant. We need to be mindful of those who are important in our lives and to appreciate those people. Here. Now. Today.

Posted by: Ryan Hoffman on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:47 PM
I feel very bad for those people because these people went christmas shopping and poeple thought that they will going to have fun Shopping and that fun turn to be Dangerous one. And was the samething like last year in South Florida when there was a Mall Shooting in Boynton Beach Florida it was bad one was started by a gang. it very sad that people had to go to this odeal it very sad. and my Heart goes out for thoses people who been in Harms way today God Bless

Posted by: NT on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:45 PM
Wow! The last time that I saw news coverage like this (non-stop) was for 9-11!

Posted by: Can't wait to move on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:44 PM
To smk & various people saying that the parents needed to do something - news flash - it's not always that easy. You bring them to shrinks - they medicate them - WHICH in MY son's case made him WORSE - then you finally find a doctor who WANTS to figure out the EXCAT root of your son's mental issue (after 5 blinkin years of fighting for it) and since it's THOUSANDS of dollars, hey your insurance decides "nah, not gonna help". Can't afford to pay for it on your own, no one else helps, and there ARE no mental facilities for squat here. Loving your kids isn't enough, even fighting for them isn't enough when everywhere you turn you're hitting brick walls. The "scare program" that was here? They took it away - why? Because kids got scared from it & it made their parents feel guilty. SOME states have STATE mental facilities - maybe one is needed here?

Posted by: Debbie on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:44 PM
I am so glad I live in CB, My question is why were both the Mayor and the Chief of Police out of town today, of all days. They had the President of the United States in the city and they were both gone. Unreal!!! Police Chief Warren has some real issues with the city of Omaha that better be dealt with or he needs to be gone. The city is going to get a really bad rep. Parents need to make kids understand that life is a precious thing, we only get one, not like in their stupid games they play, were they get to start over again and again. This is permanent. Dead is Dead!!!! Forever!!!

Posted by: Susan on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:43 PM
My sympathies to all that have been affected by this tragedy. I have a loved one there in Omaha and am grateful that he was not hurt.. although I am also sad for all those that died and were hurt as well. May you all pull together and become stronger.

Posted by: Tracie on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:42 PM
I want to thank you for your continued coverage. I am from Omaha and have many friends and family in the area. It is head to believe that something like this could happen in Omaha. My thoughts and prayers go out to all victims and all residents of Omaha. It is tragic that such an event could happen so close to home. I pray that all in the community will come together and support each other during this time. I will be praying for all touched by this event. Let us remember to focus on those affected by the event and try not to focus on the shooter. Unfortunatley this is the world we live in...let's work to focus on how to prevent things like this from happening in the future. Let's focus on the wonderful people whose lives were cut short due to this tragedy and just continue to pray.

Posted by: S on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:39 PM
Where is the outrage? Where, America, is the outrage to stop this senseless violence before it escalates any further. . .

Posted by: Joshua on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:38 PM
There has been a common thread of the shooters' histories in Columbine, Virginia Tech, and Westroads. They had histories of harassment. I have been seeing a lot of concern and thoughts, and prayers. I am all about prayer. It works. But we need to look at ourselves in how we have been treating each other as a nation and world. We need to start loving each other more. We need to look at these situations from the shooters points of view too to prevent situations like this.

Posted by: Missa on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:37 PM
Wow...How heartbreakingly sad. We will continue to pray for these families and their loved ones who are up in Heaven. Politics does not belong in this debate, and believe it or not, not everything can be blamed on our President. It just makes me sick to my stomach that people use forums like this to make personal, uninformed comments and really just end up sounding like the uneducated people they are. Our thoughts and prayers need to be with the families of the victims and on our own loved ones in the hopes that we are never found on the receiving end of a high-powered rifle when we are out doing our normal day to day activities. May God welcome them into his kingdom and may Satan throw the murderer straight to Hell...

Posted by: Tara on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:35 PM
I was in shock when I heard this news. I pray for the victims and their families of this horrible act. This is a wake up call for people.

Posted by: Tammy on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:35 PM
I live in Kansas City and I have been listening online all day to the news on this horrific tragedy, My family and I lived in Bellevue for many years and when I heard this news today we were devistated. My family would like to send our prayers and thoughts to all involved and their families. Tammy

Posted by: Jed on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:34 PM
I think one thing people in this country need to address, is the use of anti-depressants. I think they are over-used. I think the powers that be, like making humans into walking mindless robots who are numb to everything around them. So many of these troubled people who do bad things like this, are found to be on anti-depressants. How about we actually start treating people like human beings and giving them the help they truly need? drugging people up is not the answer to their problems.

Posted by: Melissa on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:34 PM
i couldn't believe that anything like that would ever happen around here. i won't be in that store for a while and i am a frequent shopper from there. now all i can think about is wat if that happens here? Malls Need Better Security!

Posted by: smk on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:33 PM
oh yeah, and all of you gun owners that have guns unlocked and in arms reach of kids...grow some responsibility and teach your kids right from wrong. if you can't do that, then you have absolutely NO RIGHT to be a gun owner. 8 innocent people are dead because of this! this is so sad!! if you can't give kids what they want, at least give them one thing, be a parent, be a smart parent, be a caring parent, be there for your kids. obviously this kid had no parents except for the nice lady he was living with.

Posted by: Nate on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:31 PM
Our prayers go out to all of the victims' families and all of those who were affected. It's tough to see Omaha make national news for something like this, but we need to realize that this can happen anywhere. We all need to recognize the warning signs. If you think that someone needs help, then tell someone or have them get help.

Posted by: Maggie on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:30 PM
this guy is such i dummy! if wanted to kill himself dont take someone else out with you. my moms friend whose sister works in the cutomer service has not yet been found and i am very worried i hope that she is found soon. my prayers are with them all!

Posted by: Chad on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:28 PM
Any chance this mass killed was linked to last Sunday's Omaha World Herald's FRONT page article on Starkweather? I think it ironic that the paper glorified Starkweather's killing 50 years ago this week... and then a person of the SAME age as Starkweather opts to go out in a blaze of glory. I think he read the article! Our prayers go out to all the victims and families.

Posted by: Payton on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:28 PM
I hope all the families are all right.I'll pray for hope.

Posted by: George on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:27 PM
When troubled individuals hear of shootings daily in the news, it can affect them and give them the idea that that is the way to solve problems. The North Omaha violence has continued too long without reduction. This should be pointed out to the Mayor and Police Chief. Oh wait. They are out of town.

Posted by: Jackie on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:23 PM
This was a HORRIFIC act. In no way am I making excuses for Robbie...but he WAS a troubled kid that needed help. Unfortunatly it didnt come to him soon enough in life. But his family and even him deserve prayers just as the victims and their families. I really believe strongly that God would want us to pray for them too.

Posted by: AndrewsDad on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:21 PM
Another mass killing in a "self defense free zone", I mean a "gun free zone", just like at Virginia Tech. How many more of these do we need to witness before we realize gun free zones are simply the perfect shooting gallery for those intent on killing as many people as possible? You never see these kinds of things at shooting ranges or gun shows now do you. If you think gun free zones are such a good idea, answer the following questions, is your home gun free and if so do you have a sign in the window stating that? I didn't think so.

Posted by: SB on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:19 PM
Omaha, we need to focus on only two things today. Please pray for the families of those murdered, injured, and impacted by what they survived today at Westroads. Second, please pray for the Omaha Police Officers, Douglas County Sheriff's Deputies, Nebraska State Troopers, Omaha Fire/EMS personnel, and the medical personnel at Creighton and Nebraska Medical Centers. No person should ever have to witness what they did today. The next time you see or speak to one of these community heroes, please tell them thank you for what they do and thanks for an excellent job today. I heard on both CNN and Fox News today from nationally known Law Enforcement experts what an excellent system that Omaha must have and what an excellent response they had. They responded faster than most large city police departments do to a critical incident like this!

Posted by: Karl on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:15 PM
Poor Robby?? He was just a loser that got coddled too much as a child. He was given the Jeep to show that he was "on the right track". He really had his family fooled. My prayers go out to the victims and their families. They are the ones that the media should be focusing on. The killings were senseless and could have been prevented.

Posted by: Barb on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:14 PM
Two things. Regarding the post by Precious, who is making this a race issue? Only you from what some of us have read. Also, Omaha is not any safer than other cities. I went to New York city this summer. Walked thru Times Square, down Broadway and rode the subways all during the day and at night.People here in Omaha asked me if I was afraid of the large crowds and the crowded subways.That never crossed my mind at all. I felt completely safe everywhere I went that week. Here I have to look over my shoulder when I go shopping somewhere to make sure that someone is not following me. I have to lock my car doors when I get in it and keep my cell phone handy. Omaha is not crime proof. I cannot believe that not ONE person saw this young man go thru the mall with that rifle before he got to Von Maur. A very tragic day for this city. Innocent people died for no reason at all.

Posted by: Lynne on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:12 PM
I just think this is horrible and I feel very sadden. I feel very sorry for the families of the victims. My heart and prayers go out to the families. I think it is devasting to think these are people that just though they were going to the mall to shop, and not knowing what was going to happen. I think the cops did an very well job getting to the scene and doing their job.

Posted by: Dennis on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:12 PM
Mass murders seem to take place where people are disarmed by law. Nebraska has over 2500 people licensed to carry concealed handguns. If state law, combined with Westroads policies, didn't prohibit law abiding gun owners from being armed at the mall, the shooting might have ended differently. A self-defense handgun is like a fire extinguisher or a first aid kit. They don't eliminate the need for help, they do give people a chance to help themselves while waiting for assistance to arrive.

Posted by: KJP on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:11 PM
I would just like to thank Channel 6 news. They have spent many hours covering this tragic news so that we can be informed about the situation. I appreciate the hard work that all of the reporters, anchors and camera people have done to accurately portray this tragedy. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims' families and to the rest of Omaha as well.

Posted by: Cathy on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:11 PM
My husband and I are from Millard. We moved to Colorado 1 year ago. Our hearts go out to the Omaha community and everyone effected by this tragedy.

Posted by: Steffanie on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:11 PM
We as a community always place blame on the person who commits these acts. But we also are to blame when we turn a blind eye on people who are struggling with depression or seem troubled. I am saddend for all the people who have suffered but I am even more saddend that someone feels the only way to be heard is to commit such a crime. Thank god for the family who took the time to try and help. I hope we all will take the time to help so this dosen't ever happen again.

Posted by: Nancy on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:09 PM
I don't understand how one can shoot themselves with a rifle. It is a long gun. Seems you would have to have very long arms.

Posted by: charisma on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:06 PM
My thoughts an prayers go out to all families that were affected by the tradegy. I want to say thank you to the omaha police department for being on top of it. I've never really cared to much for police because of all the things bad I've heard about them. But this situation makes me respect them a lot more because they were there to insure safety when needed. I really appreicate there service to the community an thank them very much on helping us get out of that extremely dangerous situation. I am forever thankful for them saving my life. THANK YOU OMAHA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

Posted by: Molly on Dec 5, 2007 at 09:05 PM
What company fires people during the holidays? Clearly the young man had issues; however, McDonalds should be held partially accountable. My thoughts and prayers go out to all of the families.

Posted by: Teresa on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:56 PM
The Westroads has always been one of my favorite places and my family has had lots of fun times there. I am so sad for all of those who have lost loved ones today, and it will be hard to find the joy there again.

Posted by: Ana on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:55 PM
I would ask that you take down the name and picture of R. Hawkins, it is what he wanted, and he does not deserve it.

Posted by: Greg on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:49 PM
Tragic...Our hearts and prayers are with anyone touched by this tragic event. At times like this we need to pull together as a community. Senseless acts of selfish anger, I will never understand. People reached out to this person. Mental health has a long way to come to help. Keep up the great work on the many different angles of reporting. I find it all very well reported.

Posted by: Let's Pray on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:48 PM
Our Father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name, Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in HEAVEN. Give us this day, our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who tresspass against us, and lead us not in to temptation, but deliver us from evil. For Thine is the kingdom, and the power and the glory, for ever. Amen. To the victims, may heaven's gates welcome you with open arms. To the families, please know the tears of the community will comfort you in your time of loss. May God be with you all.

Posted by: Sherry on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:48 PM
Thanks to the WOWTV anchors John and Tracy along with the entire crew for keeping Omaha informed today during this horrible tradgedy. You've stayed on the air through it all, with professionalism and sincerity! Making sure we had the most up-to-date info possible. Awesome Job Team!!!

Posted by: David on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:47 PM
I completely agree with Tracy and Jason. You all should have never put his face on T.V. the name is understandable. This is definately not a way of going out in style. My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims families. I think we should here more of what the victims families have to say rather than some murders friend.

Posted by: lincmercguy on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:44 PM
Please take this psycho's name picture off of the news story and your website. You are giving him the recognition that he wanted.

Posted by: Victor on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:43 PM
Prayers and more prayers for the families of those who were killed, and those who were traumatized in this senseless trajedy. I would also like to wish the local stations to go back to regular programming. Its so depressing to watch this over and over. I had to turn off the television and pick up my Bible.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:43 PM
All this talk about coping and being an influence. Kids need HELP. And the thing is, its not JUST the parents responsibility. Yes, it is mostly their responsibility, but it is also society as a whole that impacts kids as they grow. Troubled kids need more attention and if they dont get it they lash out in order to get it in horrific ways. Looking back on HS, i wasnt picked on, but seeing other kids get picked on just made it all the more clear--God wants us to treat others as wed like to be treated. Kids are cruel--the adults in a kids life dont need to add to that. When a kid has problems dont just sigh and say 'thats to bad'. Do something about it. The people Robbie was living with tried to reach out. And it sounds to me like they did a great job. Problem was they entered into his life to late. He was reaching out for help earlier in his life and nobody did anything. If you want to influence kids of today...teach them to treat everyone with respect, even if they are different.

Posted by: Jason on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:43 PM
I think it is just plain stupid to give this loser all the face and name time that you are (so are all the other Omaha stations). Show some class and respect and stop it. Take his picture and name off your site now! Stop talking about him. I know we don't know the victims names yet but talk about the people who were there and lived to share their story. What people want when they do this kind of thing is publicity and you are giving him everything he wanted. I would expect such reporting from other areas of the country but not Omaha. Don't let others know that their name and face will be all over the news if they do something like this. STOP GIVING THIS CRIMINAL SO MUCH ATTENTION!!!

Posted by: Anthony on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:42 PM
Do we ever consider that our media may be semi respodsible for these episodes of violence. Since the VT shooting I wondered how long it would take for a troubled individual that saw how famous that shooter became to act out again. A kid like this goes from thinking he is no one to having a country remember his name and action in 10 minutes. Media coverage is necessary, but there is a line. Do you think the shooters thought "I'm going out in style" came from no where? No it came from seeing a legend formed during the tragic VT shooting. The coverage of that event and how his life story was told over national television ignite the thought of committing such an act. I don't know what the answer is but something has got to stop in terms of putting these individuals up on a media pedistal. Lets honor the life stories of those lost, instead of covering and individual who committed such a selfish act. Even now I wonder who has watched this and thinks the same thing. Definately Scary.

Posted by: John Douglas on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:42 PM
How many more sensless killings will occur before we begin to secure our Malls with proper security screening. These acts should be treated as domestic terror. We must have a real armed security presence and bag check at shopping malls, schools and large public institutions. It is sad but true, had there been armed guards manning a secure entrance, this animal would have been stopped before it was too late for the innocent people shopping for Christmas.

Posted by: Erik on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:42 PM
Does Westroads prohibit Concealed Carry permit holders from bringing weapons into the mall? Maybe Robby didn't see the signs. My prayers go out to the families of the victims. This was a senseless killing rampage premeditated by a deranged coward.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:41 PM
What a scary situation and it really hits home for everyone. I keep thinking about how many times I've been inside that mall and being a previous employee at Westroads, it truthfully scares me to death. I understand that he was a troubled person, but nothing is bad enough to take your own life and others along with you. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.

Posted by: Shawn on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:39 PM
I moved from Atlanta, GA to Omaha, NE 7 months ago. Since moving here I have seen a "Summer of Terror" where murder rates averaged 1 a day during some months. I am at the point now where I am ready to leave a great job to move BACK to Atlanta. I think that this ALONE speaks volumes because Atlanta is a much bigger city with its own violence, but at least I felt more safe.

Posted by: lisa on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:39 PM
My heart goes out to the victims of this tragic situation. Robert was obviously a troubled child. Our focus should be on the victims of this tragedy rather than the worry of not being able to "going to the mall" and worrying about being shot.

Posted by: lanisha flowers on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:39 PM
it saddens me to know that in this world we have to fear for our safety anywhere and anytime, when a issue this pathetic could have been prevented with the right type of support systems. It saddens me that our children/young adults have no where to run or expose there problems but in this way

Posted by: Jean on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:38 PM
Thank you to WOWT for the coverage and information on this sad incident. And not only do our hearts go out to the families of the shoppers and associates of the Westroads Mall, but we will be showing our support to our southern neighbor by shopping at Westroads this season. We don't want this great shopping venue to be a victim too. Please send the love of your northern neighbors to all those in Omaha that are affected by this very unfortunate event. OUr thoughts and prayers are with you all!

Posted by: Matt Priest on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:38 PM
This event wont stop me from shopping at Westroads Mall. Crime is a factor of life, and Omaha is still an extremely safe place to live. Why didn't anyone tackle the shooter? I seem to recall on United Flight 93 during 9/11 that there was a rugby player on board who really helped out in this regard. My sincere wish is that I could have been the person standing next to the shooter, if only so that I could put a stop to the shooter's actions before they could begin. Then this event would have been a story about a heroic halt to crime instead of the terrible tragedy we've witnessed. Remember the Luby's Cafeteria shooting in Killeen, TX? A mass murder is extremely rare, but within the realm of possibility, even at a pedantic cafeteria (Luby's) or a ritzy shop (Von Maur). This event is further reason for the motto "carpe diem", and perhaps for me to sharpen my flying tackle skills.

Posted by: Melissa W. on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:37 PM
How can someone do this to innocent people? This is horrible! I've had a close friend get shot and killed in Febuary and all I have to say is that I do believe that it has something to do with the whole gun law that was placed within the past year and a half. No one should ever have to go threw this at all! RIP to all who have been killed!

Posted by: Rev. Jeff Voorhees on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:37 PM
Omaha is my hometown, and my heart breaks for the families of the victims, and even the mother of the shooter--may God wrap his arms of comfort and grace around those who grieve.

Posted by: brad on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:35 PM
Why are the police chief and Mayor out of town on a day the president is in town?

Posted by: Matt on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:33 PM
My thoughts and prayers go to the entire Omaha community and to all of the people that are impacted by this tragic event.

Posted by: JR on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:33 PM
God bless everyone who has been affected by this tragedy. I left Omaha 8 years ago and never thought this would have happened.

Posted by: Walter on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:30 PM
I only visited Westroads a couple of times in the two plus years I lived in Sarpy County. I also am an alumnus of Virginia Tech. It is troubling to have bad things happen at places I have known.

Posted by: Tracy on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:29 PM
I will never understand why anyone would think killing people is "going out in style!" His friend's parents should take a real hard look at THEIR son if he believes that Rob did go out in style. This certainly is NOT the way we should be influencing the children of our future. Our prayers are with the devestated families, but we also hope more parents will take note on how they are raising their children. They need to learn to COPE with negativity, not lash out like this.

Posted by: Jason on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:29 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victim’s families and citizens of Omaha. I would like to note that the shooter said in his suicide note that before he did this he was nothing: But after he would be famous (or whatever he said). That’s because he knew the media would release his name, and that is what the local media is already doing: and the national media will probably do soon. We need to focus on the victims and their families. Again: My thoughts and prayers go out to the victim’s families and citizens of Omaha.

Posted by: Lorie on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:28 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to those afflicted by the violence. I grew up in Omaha and still have family/friends living there, so I empathize in your situation. May God bless the first responders as their job is never easy to do.

Posted by: Terry on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:26 PM
Love your children

Posted by: Josh on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:25 PM
what would posses someone to do such a selfish and stupid thing? its one thing to kill yourself, but to take out that many people with you??? WHY? what an idiot!

Posted by: Allie on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:24 PM
Lets hope and pray we dont get a bunch of lil copy cats as we many times do when they see one individual get so much "fame" for doing something so tragic! Pathetic! If you know or suspect someone to be depressed or troubled get them professional help, don't wait for them to ask or worse snap! My heart goes out to all the people that were affected by todays event. May your faith, family & friends be with you at this time! God Bless & May we all Try to have a Happy & SAFE Holiday!

Posted by: tradegystrikeseverywhere on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:24 PM
My cousin was on the 3rd fl of von maur today, she's an employee, she's traumatized and scared, she doesn't know how to go back to work, so lets not forget the employees that survived and has to deal with this tradegy also, along with the victims families my prayers are with you. This is incredibly sad and my heart is broken...God Bless all that is involved and may you find the strength to go forward.

Posted by: D on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:24 PM
My prayers a with all involved. Such a horrible thing to happen!

Posted by: Brian on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:24 PM
I agree with the outrage about Mr. Bigler being so supportive of his "friend" in this massacre. Please do not give him the pleasure of enjoying his moment in the spotlight. The People of Omaha and Nebraska will support the families and employees in this time of need and will keep you in our thoughts and prayers!

Posted by: enyonam on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:22 PM
God bless the families and victims of the attack. we'll keep them in our prayers. we never know what will happen tomorrow, so all we have to do is pray.

Posted by: Victor on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:19 PM
First of all my prayers go out to the families of their loved one who were killed and injured. But please stop making the loser famous. Don't use the losers name or picture. All you are doing is causing other losers to do the same thing someday. The best thing is not to give any recognition to losers like that. He should be tossed into the landfill that is all he is worth. I am sorry for his family also, but that is all that loser is worth. Also the more you broadcast something like this the more others will think they can become so called famous. I know it is a sad but big story but cutting it short now may save lots of people later. Anyone that trys to defend that losers actions should be tossed in jail. Thanks

Posted by: Sarah on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:19 PM
May the families of the victims find peace with God. It is unfortunate that it takes tragedy for communities to come together. God Bless, my prayers are with all the victims, and their loved ones at this time.

Posted by: Ted on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:18 PM
I just want to say that my heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families. Heart and prayers also go out to the first reponders on the scene (police,fire,etc.) Prayers also go out to Jim Von Maur and his family/buisiness family as well this cannot sit well with them. Omaha has made the national news channels .....AGAIN !!!! This time, in a very, very, very negative light. My prayers go out to all, and especially , the first responders. Goid Bless All Of Us !!

Posted by: anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:18 PM
I send my love to all of the families that have lost a family member and I wonder what will happen to business at Westroads

Posted by: Kim on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:18 PM
I feel for the familes and people who were taken from us. I hope we will be able to figure something out to stop all the violence. I was in total shock when I got the text on my phone about the shooting and hit home hard cause I was on my way up to Westroads to shop around 1pm. My bus broke down so I walked to a family members house insted. My prayers are with everyone and people of Omaha. This makes us all stop and appreate what we have and to cherish everyday.

Posted by: Cal on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:17 PM
Does anyone else find it interesting that both the mayor AND the police chief were out of town on a day when the PRESIDENT was in town? Well planned, boys...

Posted by: brad on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:16 PM
Can't the owner of the house just give police permission to search. Why wait 2 hours for warrant??

Posted by: Angela on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:15 PM
My prayers go out to the city of Omaha, the victims' families as well as the suspects' families. It's so sad that this lady brought him in to her home to make a better life for him and this is the kind of thanks she gets. So very very sad.

Posted by: John on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:14 PM
It's sad that a guy who wants to commit suicide has to do something like this. i hpe he goes straight to hell!

Posted by: Mike on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:13 PM
I hope that waste of human being rots in blazing hot HELL!!!!!!!!!!! Where are the parents at? Hope you are proud of that disgrace of a son you conceived. And whoever that friend of the shooter's is, his parents should be taking care of him when he walks in the door. What a disgrace of a kid. "He didnt want to go out like every other kid that commits suicide, so he did this." "He is far from a terrorist" Get that kid off my TV

Posted by: Michaela on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:10 PM
This comment is for all of you readers out there.... Today in my psychology class we discussed how it seems to be that when a tragedy takes place or is occuring we just do not think we just do. We all know this from 9/11, Virgina Tech, the bridge incident in Minnesota, and now the events that occured today. I know that today made us all think and realize that this is going to also be something that sticks with us for the rest of our lives. That is also how I know that we will all know to help without thinking in a time of a tragedy. My thoughts and prayers are with anyone who was involved in todays shooting. WE WILL MAKE IT THROUGH THIS HORRIBLE TIME... And DO NOT FORGET THAT.

Posted by: Sarah on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:05 PM
As a community we need to pull together to support the families who have lost so much , and as a society we need to take a moment of silence and reflect on what way we prepare our young people to deal with the ups and downs of life, possibly we as parents, community, and country need to reflect on some of the old school values that were instilled into us . those values that are so vague in our lives today. it is apparent that this young man had many difficluties that were left unattended. and this is the final result. a life taken by someone, who's life was valued little. for that reason he so easily took lives.

Posted by: Julie on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:04 PM
Contrary to other viewer comments you are airing on your broadcast, I believe there are 9 victims here, not 8. This child must have been going through tremendous turmoil to do something like this. If he felt that this was his only option then he himself is a victim, a victim of our society. And in my opinion that is very very sad. My heart aches for all 9 victims. In this holiday season we should mourn ALL that have been lost today.

Posted by: Ron on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:03 PM
I feel contempt for genZ young underachievers with no goals, direction, or apparent father figure. If our schools produce dropouts that pick up weapons, why should we pay taxes? Special thanks to the surrogate Mother for taking him in and caring. Where are the parents? Finally, which doctor gave the meds and why did he not see the warnings signals and up the milligrams?

Posted by: Al on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:03 PM
Personally, I feel sorry for the shooter. He was nineteen (or was it twenty?) and, from what I can tell, his biological family didn't give two snits about him. The kid wasn't all there, I'll grant that, but taking rage out on him when he fell to the depths of uncontrollable emotion? Yeah, I don't support what he did, but I pity him. He felt the need to do something like this, because his life was thrown into shambles. There are times where everyone feels like their life is out of their hands, where life is uncontrollable. How many of you out there can't control your actions after a break-up? When your friend gives away a your secret? At your parents for not giving you what you what? At your boss for being "unfair"? Just think about what this kid suffered through, mentally and through life, in order to feel like he needed to slap his name in temporary history THIS WAY. This is how he chose to get acknowledged, of all ways, but WHY? Any of you wonder that? No one is born evil.

Posted by: Taylor on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:02 PM
Von Maur is my favorite store I cant belive that when i came home after school i herd about this shooting, i'm so sorry for the victims families and the guy who did this will die in hell

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:02 PM
The stuff people are talking about on here is unreal. This is not a place to bicker and complain, just PRAY people. We can't do anything about this now, it's over with, we can't take any of this back.

Posted by: Kris Gray on Dec 5, 2007 at 08:00 PM
My heart goes out to the families and all that are affected by this tragedy. But my questionis how in the world did he get through the mall with a rifle? That is not something that you can just hide. Are we no longer safe anywhere anymore? I will pray for the famlies.We must not forget them.

Posted by: sheila on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:59 PM
Iam sad to here what happened today. My heart goes out to the families is holiday season. This is happening to close to home. You just don't know what will happen in this world today. I will pray for the families of the shooting.

Posted by: john on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:57 PM
There's no excuse for mall security or Von Mauer to not hire off-duty policemen (armed) to protect shoppers. Hallmark Card statements of "condolences" will not make up for the fact that better, trained, and armed security in the store could have prevented this massacre.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:57 PM
Someone mentioned giving more attention to the victims than the shooter. In no way do I think you should abandon prayers for the victims and their families but I also think that prayers for Robbie's family...and for him are extremely justified. The guy, believe it or not, was a really really nice guy. He was troubled--obviously more so than anyone knew. It was a terrible act. I'm not trying to make excuses for the shooting. But I do believe that you can't just look at this from the surface. For Robbie it was deeper than a random act...and it's apparently been a long time coming. My heart and prayers, again, go out to the victims and their families and the witnesses as well. My heart also goes out to Robbies family and friends...and him.

Posted by: June on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:51 PM
Such a disgraceful, hateful, horrible act. my prayers and thoughts go out to friends and family members affected and may the victims rest in peace.

Posted by: Katie on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:48 PM
Wow 1st off I am so sorry to hear about all that has happened there today. I used to live in Omaha and loved it. I still make trips there often to shop mostly westroads. Scary I agree That the people who have there permits to carrie a fire arm could Carrie on them maybe not so many people would of be hurt today. THe bad guys will still have theres so Let the good guys protect themselfs and the other poeple who wish not to carrie. I do want to give thanks to the Family who tried to help. We need more people like them. Again thougths and prayers with all there, injured and those we lost. thoughts and prayers from Iowa

Posted by: Danielle on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:48 PM
Violence needs to stop in Omaha!!! There are people getting hurt for no reason!!!!!!! dieing for no reason!!!!!! And its not fair for there friends and family to have to suffer of a tragic death for no reason! I will pray that The people who died familys will feel better and know that they are in heaven and in there hearts!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sandi on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:48 PM
I am just so amazed that someone who is so distraught and depressed to the extent that they would take their own life, can think it would be neccessary to take innocent peoples' lives and "Go out in style" as he stated in his suicide note. Its such a horrific act and I pray for the victims and their loved ones.

Posted by: Sarah on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:45 PM
I can not believe this happened two of my friends parents were at hte mall when the guy started shooting thanks to The LORD in heaven they were not hurt. I also went to give my regaurds to the familys that lost there love ones.

Posted by: Laura on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:45 PM
Is it really appropriate to be throwing your personal beliefs about gun laws out here right now. Our city is grieving for the victims and their families. Please step off of your political soap boxes and speak with compassion. My heart breaks for the victims, their families, those who were in the store, but I am also feeling sorrow for the shooter's family.

Posted by: anna on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:44 PM
People!!! Stop freaking yelling, talking about politics and pointing fingers. This is a time to pray for the families and the victims, and to cherish and to be thankful for what we have!! May the lord be with everyone of the victims families. Pray for everyone affected by this shooting!!!

Posted by: Pat & George on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:44 PM
Our heart goes out to our fellow Omahans faced with this tragedy and its aftermath. Know that we "transplanted" Omahans around the country have you in our thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: sue on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:43 PM
Please don't show his picture again on air, or on your web coverage. Don't give him that. Please save it for the survivors and his victims. My heart goes out to the families.

Posted by: TODD on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:42 PM
QUOTE from C from oamha "My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the victims. But what scares me about these comments people are posting, when a comment comes up talking about carrying a concealed weapon and being able to fight back. That makes you just as bad as the person who started the shooting." OF COUSE I WOULD WANT TO FIGHT BACK, YOU ON THE OTHER HAND WOULD BE CRYING BEGGING FOR YOUR LIFE BEFORE GETTING SHOT IN THE HEAD

Posted by: Val on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:42 PM
We are such a self absorbed, self centered and self gratified society. It is time that we started valueing the family and family values instead of the almighty dollar and overworking. we have taken away the support network of our young adults to be able to reach out and get help. We are too busy to take the time - it is always someone elses problem or someone else can deal with it. We need to be able to teach our teens that there is value in life and in others. Being a teen or even a young adult in today's society is hard enough - it is even harder now than it was 5 or 10 years ago because we have taken so much away from the family support network. TV, computers and PS2's cannot raise our kids and teach them appropriate values and morals. The schools cannot teach it either. It is something that comes from your family support and beliefs. We need to stop taking away from the family and start valueing families. It does take a village or at least a whole family to raise a teen.

Posted by: Bob S. on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:39 PM
What a COWARDLY act to take down so many people with himself. This wasn't going out in style, but goin out with vengance towards innocent bystanders. Thoughts and prayers for those in need of comfort. ((always keep an eye for for ANYTHING "fishy."))

Posted by: JAMES on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:37 PM
GOD PLEASE EXCEPT THOSE WHO DIED IN OHAMA INTO YOUR KINGDOM

Posted by: Patrick on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:37 PM
god bless those that lost there lives today....... with gods speed....... this can happen anytime and anyplace..... god bless us all..........

Posted by: Laura on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:37 PM
I was in the Westroads shopping just 15 minutes before the shooting happened. I had suggested to a young mom that the Von Maur ladies room had a relly nice area for mom's that needed to feed their babies in peace and quiet. This area is on the third floor and it was only 15 minutes before the shooting. My prayer for that young mom was that she did not take my advice and that they were no where near the third floor when everything happened. I know I'll never know but, I hope they are all right.

Posted by: Rebecca on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:37 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved with today's shootings including the families that are still sitting at Hampton Inn waiting to hear from their loved ones who worked at Von Maur

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:37 PM
My thoughts and prayers are going out to the families/friends for those people wounded and killed in today's Westroads mall shooting,and also to the city of Omaha.I moved from Omaha to Davenport to attend college and this is truly scary,I remember going out to Westroads mall just to get away from all the chaos after school and now this happens.

Posted by: Jenifer on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:37 PM
Please stop showing Mr. Hawkins picture and repeating his name over and over. God forbid another troubled young person out there is or may be considering doing similar; this coverage is only ensuring the potential glorification that these disturbed individuals are seeking.

Posted by: Josh Zamora on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:36 PM
My prayers and thoughts are with all of the victims and their families. I work for a hotel in Minnesota and I speak for ALL employees and guests when I say "Our thoughts are with you all!" God Bless!

Posted by: Dominic on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:36 PM
I grew up in Omaha and visit every year. Omaha is my home so this hits very close to my heart, and I hope anyone that reads this says at least a little prayer for all those involved including anyone that didn't get shot. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone. Take care and God Bless.

Posted by: Joye on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:36 PM
I have no words to express the saddness that I feel for the families of the victims as well as those who witnessed this tragedy unfold in front of them. I have lived here all my life, grew up in this neighborhood, you never think these things will happen in your town or to your neighbors. My deepest sympathy and condolences, I just want them to know people care and they are in my thoughts.

Posted by: Sherrie on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:35 PM
My heart goes out to all the families involved in today's tragedy. To Debora, you reached out to help a troubled teen. To all of you who think that this shooting is anything like the gang shootings, your wrong. Mental illness is real, and it will not go away. People need help and can't aford it or get the help needed. If we don't start providing mental health care for people, you are going to see more tragedy. Our government needs to be held responsible for lack of funding for Mental Health Care. Mental illness is not covered by insurance companies. Our wonderful state of Nebraska has cut back on Mental Health Care...... I pray for all the victims. Thank the OPD, fire dept, CSI, and all who were involved.

Posted by: Tiffany on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:33 PM
God Bless Omaha and all the victims and their families. We are a strong community and will work together to get through this.

Posted by: BJ on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:32 PM
I called channel six to see what I could do. I feel so helpless, I want to help the police the firemen, some body! The news room man told me to give blood at the red cross Thursday. Thats were I'll be Thursday. He also told me I was a good man and all he could say was to "raise my kids right". Message heard my friend.

Posted by: Matt on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:32 PM
I was debating on whether to write this or not; so here it goes. Omaha is still a safe town. One incident and everyone thinks that if they leave their house they will be killed. NOT TRUE AT ALL. I'm sorry but you can die from anything okay. This is an unfortunate incident where a troubled young man probably didn't think life was going good. He was homeless, troubled, and got fired today. He just snapped and decided he wanted to go out in style as stated in his suicide note. Don't get me wrong I feel terrible for the families of the victims and everyone involved. I don't think anyone has the right to judge the shooter because you don't know what he was thinking and you never will. Don't get me wrong I think taking another person's life is a sin. Instead of arguing about why didn't anyone notice the gun or blame the parents, we should concentrate on the future and getting through this terrible time. My heart goes out to everyone involved in the incident.

Posted by: Jen on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:31 PM
My prayers go out to everyone at the Westroads mall today and to all of their families. Everyone one except for one person was a victim today. And my prayers are for all of you.

Posted by: todd on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:30 PM
this is why I have a ccw permit at least I could have protected my wife & me if some nut was coming after us with a rifle

Posted by: BIG SAM on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:30 PM
I just want to give my thoughts and prayers out to all of those who were lost and all of those who were injured and everyone that has been affected.

Posted by: Long Day on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:28 PM
I really wish people would stop making comments about North Omaha shooting or gun laws, ect innocent people died and we should be sending our prayers not talking about how you are not safe in Omaha anymore. I was working in the Mall near Von maur today it was a scary experience. This kid a mentally disturbed kid for whatever reason (not a thug like others are ranting about, he was obviously sick). Please stop the mean words, hold your family and friends tight and be thankful you have each other tonight and pray for the families who are unable to hold thier loved one tonight.

Posted by: jj on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:28 PM
so - would a shootout between an insane gunman and a poorly trained law-abiding citizen be better?? How many people would've be injured/killed then? Not to mention, law enforcements arrive and see multiple people with guns, without knowing who is who, they use deadly force then the families of the "law-abiding" citizens sue? Why do you people always thing more guns and more violence is the answer???

Posted by: Carla on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:27 PM
WAKE UP OMAHA!!Everybody wants to be in shock-This didn't suprise me one bit.Obviously noone pays attention to the news because omaha has had SOOO MANY murders & the news would keep them low key,now they want to make this national news.Murders happen daily in this city.I also want to say to the people that want to blame the parents & President you are ignorant.Even the kids that have everything in life going for them turn out to be murders.Noone knows what this kid was thinking-parents may have not seen any signs.Something triggered in his head & he wanted to take it out on the world.People like this there is no help you can't change there mind or no institution can help them.Everyone also wants to tighten the security-This city can only do so much & when you say security-THEY ARE NOT COPS,THEY CAN"T HANDLE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.My heart does go out to the victims & there families.RIP to the victims that didn't make it.

Posted by: Chizzie on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:24 PM
If this doesnt call for the need to get rid of guns, then nothing will. God bless all the victims.

Posted by: Joe on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:24 PM
Ifeel so bad but someone had to see this man come in with this rifle.This boy should have helped him better.HE NEEDED MORE HELP HE WAS SO SICK. why was he fired so disgracely.The mcdonalds manager should have let him down easier he should be ashamed of himself.

Posted by: Michael on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:24 PM
LET OUR STRENGTH REMAIN NO MATTER WHAT FEW MAY DO. THE BEAUTY OF OUR HUMANITY LIES IN OUR ABILITY TO HOLD EACH OTHER UP AND STAND TOGETHER IN THE FACE OF TRAGEDY. MAY GOD'S PEACE EMBRACE THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF THE FALLEN, AND THE FALLEN BECOME A PART OF GOD'S PEACE.

Posted by: Ron on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:22 PM
Please pray for family and friends of the victims and those of the shooter. We need to help those who are troubled; before they do dreadful, life-changing wrongs.

Posted by: LYSA on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:21 PM
LOST HOPE is A PHENOMENON FOR SO MANY HERE IN THIS COUNTRY-ESPECIALLY,IT SEEMS,FOR A GROWING NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE.THIS KID,LIKE MANY,WAS OBVIOUSLY IN URGENT need OF SPECIAL ATTENTION. OTHERWISE,THIS SITUATION WOULD not HAVE HAPPENED.TOO MANY BUSY(PERHAPS GREEDY)PARENTS/PEOPLE TRYING TO GET WHAT THEY CAN, AND, HOW MANY BUSY PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THE HOPELESSNESS THAT MANY ARE EXPERIENCING IS ONLY GOING TO CHANGE WITH A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WANT A DECENT ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH TO LIVE.WELL,MAYBE IF ENOUGH "nice" PEOPLE ARE SUBJECT TO THESE TROUBLED PEOPLE, POSITIVE CHANGE(A DECRESE IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS)COULD TAKE PLACE.THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO STOP ITS DOWNHILL MORAL AND ECONOMIC SPIRAL (HOW ABOUT THE LACK OF A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL OF EDUCATION EACH AND EVERY STUDENT RECEIVES)and(JUST REVIEW THE VAST AMOUNT OF CURRENT REAL ESTATE FORECLOSURES).WE NEED TO HELP OUR HOME AND PROTEST NEGATIVE CHANGE.GIVE YOUNG AMERICANS HOPE IN THEIR OWN HOME!HOW LOW IS OUR STANDARD OF LIVING GOING.

Posted by: Brian on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:21 PM
This was one of the reason I took the training and the FBI & NSP background checks to get my Nebraska CHP. When seconds count the police are minutes away. The only one who is charged with mine and my family's protection is me. How many lives could have been saved if a citizen with a CHP and was carrying had been there and could have put a stop to the carnage? The world is a dangerous place and these things can happen anywhere.

Posted by: koby T on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:20 PM
this is a very sad thing that had happend today and i feel extremly sorry for all of the families affected by this tragedy, and hopefully all of these families will hold together and be strong for the ones who really need it. dear lord please watch after all of the families and friends affected by this tragic event, and help keep them strong in this time of mourning.

Posted by: Mary on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:20 PM
How can someone not notice someone walk in the mall with a rifel. Its a big gun it wouldn't be that easy to hide. Someone had to of seen him with the gun before he strated shooting. Its not like the westroads is deserted its packed from opening to closing.

Posted by: kyle on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:18 PM
I feel sorry for the families. Ill pray for the families. I had a aunt that was there

Posted by: Jason on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:17 PM
A very sad for the Omaha community. Our prayers and thoughts are with the victims families, employees, and customers affected by this horrible tragedy. Thank you Omaha Police, Fire, and Rescue for helping those in need and quickly responding to the incident.

Posted by: Michelle on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:12 PM
I had no clue something like this would happen here in Nebraska..our home. I cannot wrap my mind around why someone would do this. Thank god school was still going because in a couple more hours Westroads would have been filled with Teenagers. God please bless The familys of the Taken, and please protect and heal the Wounded. You are definitely in my Prayers. Stay strong

Posted by: 2nd & 9th amendment on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:12 PM
Why turn this tragedy into a ccw debate?! First he was 18(too young for a ccw), He used a rifle, not a pistol, and it isn't covered under the ccw law. Also it wasn't even his gun, he took it from a relatives house without them knowing. So criminals will always have guns no matter what gun control laws you think will save you. If ccw's were allowed in the mall and someone was close to him when he started a lot more people would be alive tonight.

Posted by: Anna on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:09 PM
I am so shocked about what happened today. I'm only 12 years old and I can't believe this. I go to Trinity Christian and we even had a lock down. I was walking through the halls and people started telling me to quickly get to my class. I was late for my next class and though nothing of it, then i got to my next class and my science teacher was locking the door and told me to sit down because we were having a lock down. I couldnt believe it when i heard what happened. This is a day i will never forget and my heart goes out to all who were affected by this.

Posted by: DIANE on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:07 PM
I GET SOOOO TIRED OF HEARING "GUNS KILL PEOPLE".WHAT IF THIS PERSON HAD STARTED A FIRE...WOULD YOU BLAME THE MATCH COMPANY??? IF HE USED A BASEBALL BAT? IF HE USED HIS OWN FISTS?... COME ON PEOPLE...LAY THE BLAME WHERE IT LIES!! THE SICK PERSON WHO COMMITED THE CRIME....NOT THE PARENTS OR FRIENDS OF THIS PERSON....THE INDIVIDUAL WHO COMMITED THIS CRIME.!!!

Posted by: Jenny on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:05 PM
Its hard to believe that something that resembles the shootings at schools around the US happend so close. Not only will the city of Omaha come together, people of Council Bluffs will take just as much part in praying for the families affected! My thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected!

Posted by: RD on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:04 PM
Everyone is tired of the violence. It is time for all law biding citzens to be able to legaly carry a gun on thier person at all times anywhere.Today maybe one or two people would have been shot not 13. The sane will take care of the insane.The police can not take care of everyone,no fault of the police there are two many criminals on the street.

Posted by: John on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:03 PM
People need to give up their guns. Let's ban guns and be willing to become helpless sheep, lying down for all armed nuts and criminals. In a thousand years or so, when most guns are rusted and broken beyond repair and gun fire has become a rarity, each of those who gave their lives for this cause will be hailed as sainted martyrs. Your orphans will be proud.

Posted by: Christi on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:02 PM
I could not believe that the shooter's 'friend' went on tv and basically glorified what he did today. Obviously this young man does not have the first clue about right from wrong. They should look into getting him some help too. If he is under the assumption that what his friend did today in any way was 'cool' he too needs to be locked up so he doesn't go making the same stupid mistake.

Posted by: daniella on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:01 PM
I feel that our world is coming to an end more and more. Today is a piece of world's end. I feel our world is safe no more. I wish everybody could walk out of their houses not being afraid that something bad might happen to them or a loved one. Why can't we be safe anymore? There is no reason to kill someone for your pleasure! I beg God to stop this craziness.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:01 PM
I attend college here and never did I think I would have to worry about going to the mall. What used to be a fun day out will never be the same. It's horrible that something happened during what's supposed to be a time to be happy time of year. All the victims did was choose to get their loved ones presents for the holidays. This event saddens and scares me and my heart goes out to all those involved today.

Posted by: Sarah on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:01 PM
I cannot believe this happened. Both my friends and my family shop at the mall on a regular basis. It's scary to think that any day your life can change; anything can happen.

Posted by: Heather on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:01 PM
Now wouldn't it be nice if the mall "security guards" had guns..then they might actually be able to provide the securtiy we'd thought we had.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:00 PM
In response to how he could make it to the third floor without anyone seeing him, it would be easy with elevators right by the front doors. Let's please focus on the victims and their families, not on who is to blame. It was nobody's fault but the troubled young man. As a former employee, I know that they have the best security and if anything could have been done, it would have. My prayers are with all of the people involved.

Posted by: Kelsey on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:00 PM
My thoughts go out to everyone involved. It's clear this has affected nearly everyone in the whole city. I work at the Centering Corporation, a non profit grief resource center. www.centering.org Families of victims, please don't hesitate to call, we would be glad to help give you comfort at this tragic time.

Posted by: cody on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:00 PM
my thoughts and prayers are with the families suffering losses.this is a sad day not just for the victims families but the witnesses as well. what really makes me angry is how his friend knew it was going to happen and he didnt call the police. Also how on earth do you drag a huge gun into a crowded area with no security or people noticing?

Posted by: Dave on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:00 PM
I think I knew this kid... As far as the person who submitted the "How do you walk into a busy building with a rifle." It's very easy to do things so strange when nobody pays attention at all. This kid was probably so screwed up, and the friends and people he was staying with were the only ones who ever gave this guy any attention.

Posted by: Ashley on Dec 5, 2007 at 07:00 PM
God bless everyone affected... such harm done with such a senseless act. Everyone is in my prayers.

Posted by: Evan on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:59 PM
What a selfish person. Why would you involve all the innocent people in your selfish tragic act?

Posted by: Nick on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:59 PM
This situation that happend is just sad. It makes me worry about going to Omaha now. With the record number of homicides in omaha this year, it makes me more worried each and every day.

Posted by: Doug on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:59 PM
The incident that occured today underscores the fact that this can happen anywhere, to anyone, at any time. While we don't yet know the identities of the victims, our thoughts and prayers are with you in this time of loss.

Posted by: betsy on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:59 PM
I was in school when it happend and when they told us about it on the loud speaker we all just got silent and were scared. one of the girls in my class started to cry and her mom works at younkers there. they only told us that it was westroads and they didnt tell us it was at von mour. I then got out my computer to see what was going on and all the girls in the class and i were watching the computer screen. we were so sad. we had no idea what to think of the idea. and how did no one notice a man just walk into a store with a large gun? I am glad that area schools went into lock down.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:58 PM
I am outraged that the security guard was unarmed when he could have stopped the shooter before all of the eight people died. I think that arming security guards could save many, many lives

Posted by: Cait on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:58 PM
It saddens me that something this tragic can happen in our city or even our state. I am terrified and extremely upset. I only hope that we can overcome this tragedy with time and comfort. My prayers go out to the victims, their families, and with everyone in Omaha. This effects all of us.

Posted by: Jim on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:57 PM
My thoughts and prayers are going out to the families and friends and responders effected by this senseless event in Omaha.

Posted by: Marilyn on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:57 PM
I would certainly hope that out of respect for the victims and their families that the mall, at least Von Maur, will not be open tomorrow or even for several days. Imagine walking over the same place where someone lost their life less than 24 hours before. I think it would be terribly insulting.

Posted by: Susan on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:57 PM
Massacre says it. Absolutely Terrible. What is worse is that the world cares more about educating our children and parents with other things like computers and Harry Potter, and not teaching how to survive when you get fired from a job. He was fired from his job two weeks before Christmas. #1 What kind of Employer would do that? #2 Why are these young adults not better educated! and supported! when times are tough. And where did he get a gun? My heart goes out to the troubled man that just went to Hell! And his Mom! and to all those that died! and their families! at the Holidays and to those that had to be there to hear, see, and scramble. Thankfully people still care to help one another. God give us all wisdom to stop these killings. Help people to be more observant (alert, sharp-eyed, attentive, watchful, perceptive) and get involved.

Posted by: Jen on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:57 PM
I am so thankful for the quick respond of the OPD. Thanks so much for risking your lives to keep the rest of us safe. My prayers go out to the families dealing with the loss of a loved one. God be with you all.

Posted by: Concerned Citizin on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:57 PM
I sit here and read all the comments and realize there is a bunch onf heartless people that live in omaha and all they can talk about is GUN LAWS when a tradegy like this has happened. Maybe you that talk about the gun laws should open your eyes and maybe pay a bit more attention to your kids. this kid probably would not have taken his life or 9 other if his parents would not have abandoned him at such a difficult time in his life. As a parent my self I would never push my kid out on the street when I knew he was in trouble or had thoughts of suicide. IN OTHER WORDS QUIT TALKING ABOUT GUN LAWS AND DEBATING ABOUT STUPID AND TAKE THE TIME TO SPEND WITH YOUR FAMILY.

Posted by: courtney on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:57 PM
god be with the families of this tragedy including the family of Robert Hawkins. What a sad day for everyone.

Posted by: Brian on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:57 PM
The comment that everybody is making "You can't even go to the mall without being shot" is ridiculous. This could have happen anywhere, my thoughts and prayers are with victims and the families of those victims.

Posted by: Stephanie on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:57 PM
I am dissappointed with a lot of you...Yes, it was a tragedy that something like this happened...and maybe it could have been prevented...But quite a few of you are focused on getting back at the person who did this...what about the families of the victims? What about the victims themselves. Instead of focusing on How terrible the act is, how about focusing on sending your prayers and thoughts out for the families. How about being worried about the victims. I know a lot of you feel unsafe...I do too more often than not...but the victims of today's shooting.. or any tragedy for that matter belong to someone's family! This happened to real people...I myself am saying a prayer for each family and each victim tonight before I go to bed...and I would hope that you might also!

Posted by: Dave on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:57 PM
Lets describe Robert Hawkins as what he really is, a coward. As with all active shooters, Hawkins went to the mall to slaughter defenseless people. When Law Enforcement showed up, prepared to take the fight to Hawkins, Hawkins killed himself. He was a coward and that is how he should be remembered. Actually, he shouldn't be remembered at all.

Posted by: Aaron on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:56 PM
Can we please get metal detectors in public places? Thoughts and prayers out to everyone affected.

Posted by: Christi on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:56 PM
This situation, as sad and unimaginable as it is, truely could have been a lot worse. Santa is stationed right outside of Von Maur and this could have been made even more of a tragedy if countless children would have been wounded or killed. My thoughts and prayers go out to all of those involved.

Posted by: Megan on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:56 PM
Who is that dum to Kill people in a Store. When will people think before that do they need to think

Posted by: Susan on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:56 PM
I have a loved one there in Omaha and this hit close to home, so to speak. I am sorry that such tragedy has happened, it is sad any time of year, but always seems especially sad during the holiday season. If the people of Omaha are anything like the one that I know, I am sure you all will be strong and pull together. My regards and sympathies. S

Posted by: caitlin on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:55 PM
these sort of situations are what make me ashamed to be from omaha.

Posted by: Amy on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:55 PM
This is very sad... My heart is broken for those that lost, for those that had to experience such a tragedy. You are all in my prayers!!

Posted by: Diana on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:55 PM
Thank you to the news crews who are keeping their distance in respect to the families. I know it is appreciated.

Posted by: Mike on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:55 PM
Best wishes to the families of the victims, those injured, and the witnesses to the event. May those who died rest in peace. To those looking for someone to blame, try the kid who walked into the mall with a rifle, nothing can ultimately stop someone from commiting an atrocity such as this.

Posted by: kris on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:53 PM
First of all, my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the people who tragically lost their lives today. What a senseless and selfish act on the gunmans part. If he was intent on taking his own life, why did he feel the need to take 8 innocent people with him. Second, how did he even get a gun that size into the store unnoticed? Again my thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected by this tragic act today.

Posted by: desi on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:53 PM
my prayers to all the victoms that experienced this horrible and heartbreaking tragety.

Posted by: Karen on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:52 PM
I am so saddened by this tragedy that has happened to our community. We do all of our shopping at the Westroads. My heart goes out to the workers and shoppers that witnessed this event, and my prayers go out to the friends and families of the victims. I pray for those who are hurt and those who are hurting. May God help us all try to understand how this could happen and to somehow give us some peace in our hearts.

Posted by: Lynne on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:51 PM
This senseless tragedy will affect Omaha for many years to come...I trust that God will give your city the comfort and the ability to move forward and heal. We live in a world that is so unstable and violent. My heart goes out to all of Omaha.

Posted by: Samantha on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:51 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with the victims families this is VERY tragic.

Posted by: Casey on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:51 PM
God bless the family and victims of the attack, and thanks for finals for keeping me on campus and not out shopping for friends and family. Stay safe!

Posted by: amber on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:50 PM
lots of people died there right now i wounder what will happen tomorrow.

Posted by: Steven Kowalski on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:50 PM
I remember Virginia Tech and Columbine, and trying to imagine what it would be like to have something similar happen in Omaha. Now that it has, though, it seems even harder to wrap my mind around it.

Posted by: Ben on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:50 PM
As an EMS provider and knowing what we have to go thu at times like this my prayers got out to the families of the victims,the omaha fire personel and all who were involved.

Posted by: Scott on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:48 PM
This is another HUGE TRAGEDY!! I wish we could get in the habit of NOT useing these loosers names. This is exactly what they want,(each and everyone of them)they want their names in the media "lime light". Lets face it, they are scumbags, loosers or if you choose to be "PC" then just say the individual. STOP showing or useing their names!!!! It just gives them what they wanted, the reason they do these incredibly insane things, if they knew their names would never be known they might just just shoot themselves and not a bunch of innocent people. Why give them ANY credibility??????????? STOP showing his name!!!

Posted by: Deb on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:48 PM
My prayers go out to the families of their loved one who were killed and injured. My prayers go out to everyone who was in the mall during this tragedy.

Posted by: Georgina on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:48 PM
they need to take this Andrew Bigler (Robbies Friend) off the TV stating "he did go down in history" wow get off the screen.

Posted by: Joe on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:47 PM
I can't believe that a friend of Robert Hawkins says that he "went out in style". Disgrace is a more fitting word. Maniko should have thumped this kid on the head with her microphone, like in a V-8 commercial.

Posted by: Jes on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:46 PM
Shesh people, there are people who have died and all you can do is debate politics...sad. Maybe try and put some of your angry energy into your thoughts for the victims and their families. I have lived in Omaha my whole life and by the Westroad for years...this can happen anywhere, to anyone. My thoughts go out to everyone, and I mean EVERYONE in Omaha...this is hard for us all.

Posted by: Georgia Raldoof on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:46 PM
Im so sad about the shootings, i dont know if i can shop at westroad ever again. when i got home from work at two i cried so mutch cause i knew my feiance was there and works there at VON MAUR. I will be ther for every one whos loved one were there and they will be in my thoughts!

Posted by: L on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:45 PM
I was shaken to hear of the tragedy in my hometown today. My Pastor's Wife was working at the counter and was in the middle of the shooting, miraculously, she survived. But she had to watch as her friends got shot all around her. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone that was there, as well as all the families left behind. May God be a Source of comfort and strength.

Posted by: N.Sonic79 on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:45 PM
Being from Nebraska and having walked those very corridors at Westroads, I am shocked to learn that something like this could happen in a place where I thought this could never happen. I've heard and seen worse happen where I now live. But not back in my home state. Though I am far away, my heart goes out to Omaha.

Posted by: Sarah on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:45 PM
Most crime does happen in North Omaha, and its getting a little out of control. Discover North Omaha...NO THANKS...my heart goes out to the victims. This tragedy does NOT excuse NORTH OMAHA so don't even start that.

Posted by: Pete on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:45 PM
This is a sincerely sad and tragic situation. There isn't anything a person can do if a nut case decides to go on a shooting spree..No mater what the gun laws are. If there isn't any guns..then they will use something else..Good thing this mass murderer wasn't driving drunk..The judges would of let him off.

Posted by: Janell on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:45 PM
As a former Omaha resident, I am deeply saddened by this. I am also fearful for a couple of my friends who work at Von Maur. I can only hope and pray that they are safe. I think that this should be a wake-up call for anyone who knows anyone who is struggling with a mental illness. This includes medical professionals. I understand that incidents like this will happen, but it our collective responsibility as living, feeling humans to reach out and help each other. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved. I pray for closure and healing for all of you.

Posted by: MH on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:44 PM
Robert Hawkins friend who was interviewed in Bellevue is an idoit. It seemed he patrionized Robert Hawkins for what he did. He said Robert wanted to go out in style and the friend said that is what he did. Also the friend stated his opinion has not changed about Robert. The kid didn't seem to be to emotional or regretful of what his good buddy Robert Hawkins did. Heck they have been training for this situation for a while playing their Halo games (first person shooter games). The reason he probably chose Van Maur was he could be up high and shoot down on people. That is what a lot of those computer and video games are like. A killing Spree. My heart goes out to those families touched by this situation.

Posted by: Clem on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:44 PM
Now lets see if the City of Omaha still wants to cut Police and Fire Depts employees. It just goes to show you how we truely can use all the man power we can get to protect and serve us. Let's not be selfish Mr Mayor. Aren't you glad you were out of town !!!!

Posted by: Mary on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:43 PM
There are not enough tears to fill the cavern that has opened up today. The dead, the shooter, and the mall employess, and all of their family and friends will be met with deep, aching sadness today. Prayer will fill that cavern. This isn't about the shooter's parental skills, I'm sure they are beyond despair. This isn't about gun laws. It's about someone being in such a horrible place to think the only way out is to kill himself and take other people with him. It's about evil. Evil conquers one soul at a time. Reach out in kindness and keep the bonds between each other alive, that's the way to conquer evil. Pray for grace and strength as well.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:42 PM
I went to high school with the shooter, Robert Hawkins, he was a 2006 Papillion La Vista graduate. I didn't know him very well and that was because he didn't go to class and was always in the hallways shuffling around with his hands in his pockets and never reached out to anyone. I wonder now if someone had reached out to him his life could have been changed. However, my thoughts and prayers are with the entire community of Omaha especially the victims, their families and anyone who witnesses this horrific tragedy. Maybe it goes to show that everyone needs a helping hand and no matter what, reach out and lend a helping hand... we as a community will get through this and learn from it. God Bless and God Speed.

Posted by: Carrie on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:40 PM
Let's not make Robert Hawkins and all his "First Shooter" video playing friends famous. 8 innocent lives were lost. I know we don't know the victims names yet, but I would much rather hear about them then this horrible person. Video games, antidrepressents (that have been shown to cause young people to be suicidal), gun laws, and bad parenting are to blame!!!! I don't want to hear how he wanted to go out "in style". These poor victims and their families. All of our thoughts and prayers are with the victims. I am so sorry for their loss. We are praying for you!

Posted by: Duh on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:40 PM
You'd be surprised what people can hide in long coats in WINTER....A rifle can be hid. This is sad people. Don't whine about mental illness, etc. Rest in Peace to all the victims.....may God comfort your family in friends during this time of sorrow and loss.

Posted by: Katie on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:39 PM
God Bless the OPD and Douglas County Sherriffs.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:39 PM
To the people of my wonderful hometown, my heart goes out to you. Omaha is such a wonderful town, full of kind people. It is so heartbreaking and unthinkable that such an event could take place. My prayers and thoughts go out to everyone affected by this tragedy.

Posted by: Joslyn on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:39 PM
I just moved cross country here to Omaha this past weekend. This is so tragic and frightening as a new person to the city. I pray we all look to Christ, as He is the reason for the season, and the only one who can truly comfort those in this time of loss.

Posted by: Dell on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:38 PM
What a horrible tragedy. Thoughts and prayers from the Lone Star State.

Posted by: Lisa on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:38 PM
How very sad. The tears have fallen for everyone involved in this today. There had to be so many hero's in that mall today to help those that needed help and how very brave those hero's are. For those of us not there, we can't even imagine what those that were there felt. Our hearts hurt for those that were not fortunate enough to walk out of there and our hearts swell with pride for those of you that did what you could do to help each other. It is a huge tragedy and the country does embrace Omaha tonight.

Posted by: shaz on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:38 PM
so very sorry, prayers to all who have lost loves ones today. I remember This happened to a mall close to me. Springfield Pa, many years ago.

Posted by: Tracy on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:36 PM
My thoughts and prayers are sent to the victim's family. I am sorry for the loss of your loved ones. The days ahead will be rough but trust and believe that the Lord will see you through. This is such a tragedy to happen right after Thanksgiving and before Christmas. An event such as this takes a toll on the nation as whole. This tragedy could have happened at any mall at any time!

Posted by: mol on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:36 PM
i go shopping at westroads zillions of times, the next shopping trip out there will not be the same..... my thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends

Posted by: D on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:35 PM
This is flippin insane! I feel sorry for the victims and the people who were there in general. This goes to show not every crime happens in North Omaha.

Posted by: jayne on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:35 PM
Why was the mayor and the police chief out of town when THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WAS SCHEDULED TO BE IN OUR CITY? THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR THE CITIZENS OF OMAHA

Posted by: Jack Napier on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:35 PM
I HOPE ROBERT HAWKINS BURNS IN HELL!

Posted by: Andrew on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:32 PM
Thanks Susan for somewhat sticking up for the "war" I am from Lincoln and am currently deployed with the 600th in Iraq and have seen cazy stuff here too. It's not just Omaha, the whole world has gone crazy. I hate how people say this could've been prevented by not funding the war and that we should change the mental health stuff and from scott saying with the surge of iraqi vets coming home that we can expect stuff like this, what's that even supposed to mean, this kid that broke down would never have even made it this far and not all soldiers are crazy, so I guess what I'm trying to say is there is a lot of evil in this world, no matter where you are or who you are you will witness many evil acts, but my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families, hopefully nobody I know got hurt neither...

Posted by: CC on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:30 PM
My deepest prayers and sympathy are extended to the residents of Omaha. This is indeed a tragedy. It is my wish that the media does not over sensationalize this event.

Posted by: Raquel on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:30 PM
Can people please stop arguing about gun laws and President Bush? Innocent lives have been taken today and many more scarred. Instead of turning this event into a debate match for issues, we should respect the victims and their families. My heart goes out to all of those affected by this horrific event.

Posted by: Mikala on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:29 PM
God Bless all the people affected by this tragic day. Teens/kids: reach out to those you call friends. Find out about them and maybe things like this can be prevented. God Bless Deborah who took Mr. Hawkins in and for the effort she gave, it was better than nothing at all.

Posted by: Cody on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:29 PM
This makes you wonder what gos though peoples heads when something like this happens... i just feel for the familys that have suffered loss...

Posted by: Taylor on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:29 PM
I can't belive this happend here today when I came home from school I was shocked seeing the news. I'm sorry to all those hurt and killed just know I'm praying for all of you

Posted by: B on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:25 PM
Let's be honest. The shooter was a 19 year old kid. His gun was probably purchased by a 'law-abiding citizen,' most likely his dad. Conceal and carry laws will only encourage the proliferation of weapons into the hands of those which the law did not intend them to have. The real solution is to abolish the archaic 2nd amendment and make gun ownership a privilege, not a right. Omaha has an infatuation with gun-culture and it has to stop. My thoughts go out to those lost at the mall.

Posted by: Ed on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:24 PM
Mental illness does not discriminate based on religious belief or political affiliation.

Posted by: Monet on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:23 PM
I think that the mall should tighten their secrity because if someone can sneak in a riffle...what if it would've been a bomb ya know...WOW...are they going to release the names of the people who didnt make it? My thoughts and prayers go out to the families who lost a love one on this tradgic day. I hope and pray there wasnt anyone in there i knew.

Posted by: Anna on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:21 PM
My prayers go out to everyone victimized, witnessed or just a family member of today's shooting tragedy. May God bring peace and understanding to all.

Posted by: Matt on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:20 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families at this time of holiday 'cheer'. Even though I no longer live in Omaha, I was once employed at Westroads so this story really hit home with me. My prayers for the families, the employees and the city...

Posted by: chris on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:20 PM
We need to stop raising narcissistic children who think they are "special" without constantly being reminded that people outside of their heads are just as "special" and human as they are. We need to stop letting kids soak in media that promotes the idea that individual lives are soap operas and at the center of the world. Look at the rates of narcissism in this shooter's generation. It takes a "special" kind of selfishness for this sort of atrocity to occur. Acts like this demonstrate that there is such a thing as a monster: a person who has no empathy, no active realization that other people are constantly thinking and feeling and existing, too. Complete idiocy. Tragic, tragic idiocy.

Posted by: Jim on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:20 PM
I grew up in Council Bluffs and shopped at Westroads many times. Hard to believe something like this could happen. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of those injured and killed, and with the police and rescue crews. Let's focus on supporting them right now and save the debate on gun control, Bush, etc. for another day.

Posted by: April on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:20 PM
WOW! I am shocked, My thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved.

Posted by: LISA on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:20 PM
What a horrible senseless tragedy. May the Lord be with all of those affected and look over their families.

Posted by: sam on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:20 PM
why would someone due something so mean shooting 9 people.

Posted by: Daryl on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:19 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families affected. May God comfort them in their time of loss. I'm always shocked that these things happen, and then I'm further shocked that these incidents are used to take rights away from law abiding citizens. Disarming the public is not the answer; disarming the public only makes us all as vulnerable as the victims in the "gun free" zones that obviously were not gun free. Criminals don't obey the laws, and defenseless victims make their job easier. Ever wonder why crazed gunmen don't choose a gun show to do their bidding? Armed citizens are not defenseless against these criminals; they obviously prefer their victims to be unarmed. Again, my thoughts and prayers to those who are suffering from this lunacy. I feel for their loss.

Posted by: Ed on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:19 PM
Those who think that lack of mental health funding is not to blame should wait until what the facts show before covering their behinds and justifying their voting record.

Posted by: Bryan on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:19 PM
I can't see why anyone would want to do this. Just alone taking thier own life but when you take the lives of 9 or more lives before you do so is unknown to me. I think or society is falling apart. The big thing that struck me is that there was no security that was their to stop him. How can anyone enter a mall with a giant gun and not be seen or stopped?

Posted by: Nikki on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:19 PM
The the flip today was suppose to be marked by Bush's visit not this sad mess.

Posted by: Kylie on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:19 PM
I pray to the people who were shot today and the well being of their families. And I thank the Lord that today was not a snow day.

Posted by: Jesse on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:19 PM
What was the gunman thinking!!!Killing all those people.I`ve been there a lot but It will never be the same.

Posted by: Little ole me on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:18 PM
OK, my thoughts... This shooting and the random stuff in north O are different animals. This shooter killed himself unlike the north O thugs that shoot at random targets from moving cars, so they can brag about it later. Citizens with concealed carry permits are screened, trained, and have paid for a license, so yahoos are not going to get the permit. most likely only one or two ccp in the area, not lots of cross-fire. NO link to Bush his rifle not covered by Concealed carry. if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns Omaha is still safe.

Posted by: doris on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:18 PM
I extend sympathy to all who were made victims today. But I see already that this has become more a a gun law forum and societal problem forum--ifyou have been following someone did try to help this boy--it just wasn't enough. Also please don't type in caps that is shouting and very rude!!!

Posted by: Amy on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:18 PM
The thoughts and prayers of the entire area are with you all. Please know that help and support surround you. It's difficult to say why these things happen, but in the end what matters is how it changes us. Rather than making us bitter and angry, this should open our eyes to the very real agony of some of the invisible young people in our area. May we realize our responsibility in reaching out and changing the shape of the lives of our community, no matter who they are. There is no room for hatred and alienation in a community who prays for an end to this kind of violence.

Posted by: Jim on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:18 PM
Kudos to WOWT for responsible reporting during a very difficult time.

Posted by: Jennifer on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:17 PM
What a tragic event. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected. It seems so harsh that a good number of people on this board are so quick to point the finger when horrific events such as these happen. For the time being, can't we just focus on helping those whose lives have been ruined today instead of blaming Bush or state policy? While many of your arguments have a logical basis, right now is simply not the time.

Posted by: Sean on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:17 PM
Help me understand why the media would assist this young man in his supposed final intentions of "going out in style" by giving him the attention he wanted...? I propose that all media cease naming the shooter, instead replacing his name with the moniker "cowardly and inhuman mall shooter". Let's take a stand and discourage deranged acts of brutality by refusing to extend celebrity status to those responsible!

Posted by: Amy on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:17 PM
I hope that this incident helps us realize what we have and this can happen anywhere. I haven't felt this way since 911. We need recognize the warning signs. Don't ignore strange feelings that we may get from loved ones. The only thing we can do is ASK and listen to people with this kind of depression. Hopefully we can help them before they committ such an evil and ugly act.

Posted by: marksman on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:17 PM
Tell me the preferred headline wouldn't have been: "Suicidal Shooter goes to mall intent on mayhem. Shot by citizen gun enthusiast marksman carrying a legal concealed weapon." Then the article reads: Evidence indicates gunman was not responding to psychiatric care, and was equipped with enough ammunition to potentially wound many. ** CCW's are law-abiding. That is how they got the permit in the first place. As law-abiding, any that were there didn't have thir gun in that mall. So no chance of this happier ending. We're not talking Billy Bubba with his can of beer. We're talking responsible upstanding members of the community should be allowed to have a CCW and carry it into such a poorly defended location. Don't characterize CCW's for what they are not and don't characterize it as the rubber stamp like the driver's licenses we have.

Posted by: barb on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:17 PM
Heart go out to the families and friends of all the victims, it is a horrible and cowardly act that seems to be happening now any time somebody feels slighted....lose a girlfriend or a job and take out as many innocent victims as you can....what a hateful horrible world we are living in. We in Arizona share your grief Omaha and hope that the victims rest in peace. Oh and to those who feel it always necessary to spout off your horrible political views on Bush or the Iraqi war...get a friggin' life! We are all sick and tired of people like you using a forum that should be to express grief and extend friendship in hard times in order for you to scream your political views.....leave it alone, show some respect for these people and take your vitriolic crap somewhere else.....or better yet, stop whining and enlist in the military and do something productive instead of blaming the President for the actions of a psychotic murderer

Posted by: Rachel on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:17 PM
From a concerned citizens' point of view, I think that this is what the gunman wanted...publicity. He wanted his name to get out and that is just what every news station is doing. Just like the Virgina Tech shooting we should not give him recognition for what he has done. We should be focused on praying for the victim's families and hoping that the two in critical care get well.

Posted by: Taylor on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:16 PM
I still am in shock of what happened today, to think that these innocent people died christmas shopping for there familes. It's shocking and breathtaking to think that it happened here in Omaha

Posted by: Dan on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:16 PM
The Westroads Mall bans law-abiding concealed handgun permit holders from carrying concealed weapons. When you ban law-abiding state certified armed citizens from exercising their right to bear arms, you create a Criminal Empowerment Zone. A concealed Handgun permit holder could have stopped this violence. Period.

Posted by: norton on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:16 PM
Mall security may be for customer service, and for shoplifters, but how does someone not see a man go to the third floor with a long gun that seems to be difficult to conceal?

Posted by: Susan on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:15 PM
It figures. There's always someone who turns a tragedy like this into an anti-Bush rant. This has NOTHING to do with the war in Iraq. Bad things happen, whether there's a war on or not. Drop your unreasonable hatred of the President, and spend some time with your children or grandchildren, and some time in prayer for our country and for the victims of today's tragedy.

Posted by: PatCalabro on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:15 PM
Cathy sez; "At what point will people realize that gun laws need to be changed." Gee, we have over 20,000 gun laws presently on the books. Would another 20,000 more suddenly nake criminals obey the law?

Posted by: T. J. Simpson on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:15 PM
What has happened to our country. Ever since the Virginia Tech massacre there has been bigger shootings and bigger acts of violence than ever before. I pray that our nation can hold togther and not fall into insainity. I personally blame abc for showing the murderer's video.

Posted by: Jerry Gose on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:14 PM
This is a very tragic event that has happened today. I pray for all of the families. My girlfried and I and our kids were at the very same Mall in Omaha this last summer,and you would never think that this could ever happen. It is a senseless tradgey.

Posted by: Vic on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:14 PM
My heart goes out to the poor victims of this tragedy. This is a solemn day for the Omaha and the mall. May god bless

Posted by: joanne on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:14 PM
unbelievable. here are nine people dead and idiots are talking about guns , guns kill people and it is too easy for idiots to get a hold of them. go tote your gun rights the the dead victums and their families. shame on you. don't talk about guns , use your energy to pray for these poor people. and stick your guns where the sun don't shine.

Posted by: Alexis on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:12 PM
When he shot the teddy bear I was thinking that he had not liked kids and thats why he shot one.But when I saw the news it had said that he lived with two kids and that his mom pretty-much stranded him and thats when I thought...NO he wanted to kill people because he was so stressed.But I still fell really bad for the people that died and for the woman that worked at,"JCPenny."

Posted by: Susie on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:12 PM
Keep it in perspective: ONE troubled person with a gun, but HUNDREDS of wonderful human beings who helped each other hide and escape, who tended to the injured, who ushered the less-abled to safety. The metro area is, and will continue to be, a close-knit community of excellent people. Don't allow one troubled young man rob us of our belief in each other.

Posted by: Beth on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:12 PM
I just can't believe it. I have friends who shop there every weekend. I don't know what I would do if it was them. I feel so sorry for those who were hurt in any way. I want to thank everyone for helping.

Posted by: Lorna on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:12 PM
My heart goes out to all the families. I am from Nebraska and my sister called me with the news, it is devastating even being so far away. Nebraska is always home.... Peace to all.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:11 PM
We did not expect nor did we invite a confrontation with evil. Yet the true measure of a people's strength is how they rise to master that moment when it does arrive. The streets of heaven are too crowded with angels, but every time we think we have measured our capacity to meet a challenge, we look up and we're reminded that that capacity may well be limitless. God Bless Omaha.

Posted by: Derek on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:11 PM
It goes without saying what a terrible moment this is for Omahans, and, more specifically the family members involved. But it is curious that the gunman selected a Von Maur, on a Wednesday, at midday. I wonder whether this event was in any way preemptive or simply a thoughtless, senseless crime. I pray for the families suffering on this dark day.

Posted by: Paige on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:11 PM
Is this even real? When I first heard this new around 3 pm., it didn't register. Once I came home and started watching the news, I was in utter shock and disbelief.

Posted by: laroyce on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:11 PM
my sympathies to the victims familes. It is a very sad time for them--As for Todd who advoctaes total watching of teenagers Were you a ABSOLUTLY perfect teenager--There are a lot more teenagers in Omaha and surrounding areas who would never do anything like this--This boy was an exception to the norm

Posted by: Megan on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:11 PM
People need to get it together!! How do you just wake up one day and think that you're going out to go hurt someone and that you're going out in style?!?

Posted by: Codie on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:10 PM
This is very unfortunate that this happened. I am sorry for those involved, but this is a reminder that crime, and unfortunately, homicides involving many people, happen nationwide, not just in the huge cities like New York. I hope for the best for the families involved in this tough time.

Posted by: Scott on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:10 PM
It is too soon to draw any real conclusions as to why something like this would happen in our city...but the first issue that comes to my mind is the total lack of mental health infrastructure that could have acted as a safety net for this individual. There's a provincial attitude toward mental health in this state. That MUST change--especially after the surge of vets return home from the horrors of Iraq. It's time that we all wake-up and grasp reality, lest we see these news stories, again.

Posted by: Lyndsay on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:10 PM
I was in the mall during the shooting. I am grateful for all of the kind people in the mall who put their own safety aside to make sure that others around them were safe. The manager of Bath and Body Works, where I was at the time acted responsibly and professionally to ensure the safety of shoppers in the store and individuals in the hallway. I just goes to show that even through great tragedies such as the incident today that people really do care about one another.

Posted by: Kristen on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:10 PM
I am a teenager and I love to shop. I can't help but think that this could have happened on a weekend when I would be there. We need to find a way to make our malls secure so no one has to risk there lives shopping at them.

Posted by: Lindsy on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:10 PM
To all the witnesses, you are heros in your own right, to all the victims, my thoughts are with your families, to all those who are touched by this tragedy, this is not your fault.

Posted by: AJ on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:10 PM
i just want to say that my blessings go out to the family's to the ones who where lost and injured in this tragedy. I never thought it would happen in nebraska and since it has i think we should step things up and take control.

Posted by: BILL on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:10 PM
THIS IS A TRADEGEDY THESE INNOCENT PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES FOR NO REASON, THEY WERE OUT HOLIDAY SHOPPING. THIS IS SO WRONG. I FEEL FOR THE FAMILIES. MAY GOD GIVE THEM STRENGH DURING THESE DIFFICULT TIMES. PEOPLE REMEMBER THERE ARE ALWAYS SIGNS PLEASE TELL SOMEONE, USE YOUR 6TH SENSE.

Posted by: Jim on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:09 PM
I used to work at Von Maur while putting myself through Grace Univ. I pray for all the families of those lost as well as strength for those who survived. I hope to hear from my former fellow employees that they're ok. As many ask how this type of violence happens I wonder about the law enforcement commercials for "click it or ticket"... seems like priorities are just a bit skewed today.

Posted by: William on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:09 PM
VA Tech and Westroads mall, both "gun free" zones. Look up the Appalachian School of Law shooting, armed citizens save lives.

Posted by: tj on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:09 PM
I'm currently in TX on business...Not only am I just HEARTBROKER...BUT I'M TRULY SHOCKED AT SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND FORUMS STANCES PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN TO DISCUSS HERE!!! I'm sitting her with TX folks who are just floored at these comments! Come on NE show the world what the majority of us are all about...lets stand together, pray together and put our heads together that this never happens again...let us not forget the victims and their families...please know that my thoughts and prayers are with you always!!

Posted by: Marin on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:08 PM
This is a terrible tragedy to Omaha,has left all of us in shock. Everyone in our city must gather together and offer comfort. Not only the family and friends of the victims were affected this is city wide. But remind yourself, this city is not a terrible place to be now, this could happen anywhere. Now we must come together, offer comfort, pray for the victim, there families and friends, be there for each other, and try to rebuild our image of our safety. God Bless.

Posted by: Jesse E. on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:08 PM
First Virgina Tech, now a shopping mall!!!Come on, what is this world coming to? My heart and prays goes to the families of the victims of this tragic event.

Posted by: lauren on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:08 PM
I think this is such a horrible thing that happend today. It's really scary to know one of your friends or realatives could of been in the mall at the time. My wishes and prayers go out to everyone who were in that mall, who died or made it out!!!!!!! Safe wishes and hope everyone who made it out are safe!!!!

Posted by: joe hernandez on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:08 PM
Our thoughts and prayers are with all in Omaha. Being former Omaha residents, I know the city will come together for those who are suffering tonight.

Posted by: Helén on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:08 PM
It is with shock that I've received the news about the shootings in Omaha! Nebraska has a special place in my heart and it saddens me that this kind of thing could happen in the great Husker state! My heart goes out to all of the victims and their families.

Posted by: Beth on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:08 PM
I work in the mall just up from Von Maur and I heard the gunshots and saw the people running from the store shouting there was a gun man. The 4 of us in my kiosk ducked down in the kiosk and waited a few minutes and heard numerous more shots. We stayed down until everything was quiet. We then walked down toward Von Maur and saw a man lying on the ground by the escalators. A security guard came out from a rack of clothes on his hands and knees and shouted to us to move back the shooter was still in the store. We immediately evacuated the building. I am amazed I was so very close to this event and so grateful I was able to get out safely. I am also extremely grateful for our law enforcement officers they responded immediately and did their best in a horrible situation!

Posted by: Andy on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:07 PM
I have spent many of my weekends and summer days at Westroads Mall. I have had some wonderful memories there. It will never be the same going there. Having to think about what if a gunman is here... We need to put a stop to this once and for all!

Posted by: observer on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:07 PM
Why all the stupid questions from reporters? Quit asking people of they can make any sense of this. Of course they can't. Senseless stuff happens. And for those asking how someone could get a rifle into the mall, people have long coats. Think about it.

Posted by: Mike on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:06 PM
We all sometimes take for granted the fact that we live in Omaha and think something like this doesn't happen here. This should be a wake up call for this city, we are not invincible.

Posted by: Chaeli on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:06 PM
Rip to all the lives lost in the westroades mall shooting

Posted by: Jordan on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:06 PM
I work at the Sharper Image, but was lucky to have these few days off. But just glad he didn't walk into a smaller store where there is no place to hide that many people. I feel so horrible about this and I don't even know how I can go back to the mall on friday for work.

Posted by: Eric on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:05 PM
Apparently one of the victim's needed a "killing tool".

Posted by: douglas on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:05 PM
whats wrong with people ?

Posted by: Terry B on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:05 PM
My prayers and love goes out to all the famlies friends and shop workers that are affected by this.God bless you will all my heart goes out to you and your families.

Posted by: Joanne on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:04 PM
Can't understand why someone who wants to kill himself would take innocent people with him, This is got to be the most evil thing anyone can do. All these families during the Christmas season are now left to suffer. If you ask me this 19 year old maniac was a selfess coward. and took the easy way out. He didn't know that now his wrath will be dealt with by God and if he thinks he had a lot of problems. His problems are just beginning. I didn't even know these people and I cried deeply for thier families....

Posted by: Jaci on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:03 PM
I commend the shoppers and employees at the mall who reacted and got themselves to safety. You should be proud on how quickly you took action. My thoughts and prayers go the victims' families in this tradegy, as well as those who witnessed this horrible, horrible incident.

Posted by: Mike on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:03 PM
Those people weren't killed. They were murdered. It is highly unlikely that 14 people individually provoked or threatened a man holding a rifle into shooting them. Please use correct language. This man is a murderer.

Posted by: VoDkA on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:03 PM
I wonder how many more it will take before you people realize that gun laws and throwing people who exhibit the slightest problems in jail will not stop anything. Rest in peace, Robert. If no one else is- I'm sorry.

Posted by: Sherry on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:03 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with ALL the people in that mall at that time...Everyone there was a victim. I am so very sorry this happened.

Posted by: mz cali. on Dec 5, 2007 at 06:01 PM
LIKE ALWAYS WHAT I THINK ABOUT THIS IS IF BUSH PUT HIS TIME INTO MORE CRIME OUT HERE INSTEAD OF IRAQ IT WILL BE BETTER TAKE AWAY THE GUNS MAN PUT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO KILL SOMEBODY OR EVEN SHOOT SOMEONE YOU KNOW GIVE THEM THERE OWN LITTLE ISLAND LET THEM KILL EACH OTHER JUST LIKE THESE RAPIST OUT HERE GIVE THEM THERE OWN ISLAND SEND THEM AWAY FOR GOOD JUST LIKE THE CRIME RATE OUT HERE IN OAKLAND IT IS REALLY BAD BUSH REALLY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT BUT HIS TIME INTO ANYTHING IS IN IRAQ AND SPENDING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THAT HE NEEDS TO GET IT TOGETHER FOR REAL SPEND THE MONEY ON WHAT IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE SPENT ON LIKE CRIME AND THE HOMELESS BUT LEAVE IT UP TO HIM HE DO NOT REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT NOW DO HE

Posted by: AW on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:59 PM
i go to this mall all the time. my sister was there today wen this happened..luckily she was in the cafeteria and not von maur but my thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who lost a loved one in this shooting. It shouldn't have happened. This is such a horrible tragedy.

Posted by: Linda on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:59 PM
To Dan in So. Missouri! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? This could absolutely happen ANYWHERE! It has happened in Tacoma Washington as well as UTAH! Look what happened at VTech! Wake up! I have also lived in Omaha, it is a GREAT place to live! I would move back in a minute! I feel such sadness for the families that have lost a loved one to this senseless tragedy! My thoughts and prayers are with everyone during this time!

Posted by: Andy on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:58 PM
My thoughts are with the families of the deceased and with those sitting beside the beds of the wounded. I have been there and I know! When will we realise that guns are just tools for killing, not some sort of object to worship or build a lifestyle around. We need to ask ourselves who needs an efficient killing tool in their everyday life?

Posted by: Warren on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:57 PM
This is tragic. It might have been prevented IF concealed carry permit folks were allowed to carry at the mall. I have never seen a mall that allowed the trained, concealed carry people to carry there. We would stop a nut like this. The guy who did this terrible crime was NOT a permit holder and he didn't care about the law. 19-year-olds can't get a permit. You have to be 21. Warren, Kansas

Posted by: M on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:57 PM
To the all the families and individuals involved my thoughts and prayers are with you in this difficult time.

Posted by: Sarpy CPA on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:54 PM
Absolutely tragic. Prayers to all involved. I hope all of you active here are just as angry about the next five drunk drivers... we still lose 18,000 lives each year (346 every week) to the drunks on the roads...

Posted by: Omaha Native on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:54 PM
When a tragic event such as this happens, a common reaction is to think, “I’m so grateful it didn’t happen to me or my family”, we may pause to reflect on how much our family/friends mean to us, but then our lives continue as they were. We somehow separate ourselves from the event with the belief that there is nothing that anyone could have said or done to have prevented it, that it would have happened anyway- as if destiny had it planned. Societal Negligence. It is unconscionable to think that there was no one, no where who observed this young man’s behavior prior to today. My heart is heavily burdened with the thought that if someone (anyone) a neighbor, a friend, a co-worker, would have stopped and taken the time to reach out to this person, today’s events might not have happened…the people who died in this tragedy might have gone home tonight to their families like the people reading this. We have to stop behaving as if we are not socially responsible or obligated to one another

Posted by: omahan on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:51 PM
I have lived in Omaha my whole life and it just saddens me that something like this can happen so close to home. It is a horrible tragedy. WE all just have to pull together and be there to support each other in this hard time for everyone. My love and prayers goes out to everyone who was directly affected by this horrible tragedy. May God help you through this time.

Posted by: Diane on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:51 PM
My Thoughts & Prayers are with the families that lost loved ones. My God give these families the strength they will need to get thru these very trying days.

Posted by: DeanToo on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:50 PM
"How many more would be shot in a shootout between a gunman and civilian?" You take your chances. A responsible individual in the right place at the right time *could have* reduced the body count to 1-the suicidal shooter. If they saw the baddie pull out a rifle for no reason, was a good shot and in the right place, it might have ended there. Long odds. Worst case, yes there could be collateral. But at least there would have been a chance of reducing the carnage. This guy was suicidal and a murderous coward. Are you forgetting that he went to a place where guns weren't "allowed"? He didn't go to a police station, he didn't go to the Military base, he didn't take on the Secret Service while they were in town. They are all heavily armed. If the sane competent general population sent the same consistent "don't tread on me" impression, things might have been different. Drama suicides will continue, warn them to leave the rest of us alone or we will pre-empt their show.

Posted by: Caitlin on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:45 PM
I work at oakview and many of my fellow co-workers were very scared saying it could have been us. I know mall security can't do much but they did their best today protecting us. Omaha is still safe but to be honest I am scared to even be at work. JUST PRAY FOR THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF EVERYONE NEAR THE MALL TODAY!!

Posted by: Warren on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:45 PM
What a horrible ordeal for the people of Omaha! What needs to happen is for these malls to allow concealed carry permit holders to carry there. That way people might be able to defend themselves legally. As it is now, these places like colleges and schools are free-fire zones for the crazies--they pay no attention the the law, do they? Warren

Posted by: Carissa on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:45 PM
I am so sad, i feel really bad for the people that died in Von Maur. But im glad for the people that didnt :(

Posted by: JAMES on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:44 PM
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SHOT ARE NOW A SHINING STAR IN HEAVEN AND ARE WERE ANGLES FROM HEAVEN. MAY THEY REST IN ABRHAM BOOSOM

Posted by: S on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:43 PM
You can't blame tragedies like this one on lack of funding for state mental health. Give me a break! Do you know how many people hide their depression or issues from the outside world b/c they don't want to be judged? There's help out there for people who want it and/or people who know others need it. It's a matter of these people accepting they have some issues and dealing with them rather than thinking there's no hope and ending it. My heart goes out to all the victims and their families during this horrific time.

Posted by: Dan on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:42 PM
Truth...there's plenty of laws governing gun manufacturers and dealers. Go get yourself a Federal Firearms License, you'll understand. The paperwork is ridiculous, the fees astronomical, the penalties for messing up are just plain brutal. As well it should be--I wholeheartedly agree that we shouldn't sell/give guns to proven idiots. I guarantee if this had happened in Florida, there'd have been one or maybe two victims--the idiot with the rifle, and possibly his first victim. I'm packin...and you're safer because of it.

Posted by: unbelievable on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:41 PM
It is sad that people are using this as a forum for grandstanding about their personal views on politics etc. Have a little respect for the victims and there families.

Posted by: Steph on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:41 PM
How awful! I'm saddened to hear people blaming everyone but the person responsible. I will be praying for everyone affected by this tragedy.

Posted by: Tara on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:40 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with all of you that lost a loved one today. Look to the lord for guidance and stay strong!

Posted by: A on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:40 PM
My heart goes out to all the victims and their families.

Posted by: Bill on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:39 PM
to the anti-concealed carry person: it's not a concealed-RIFLE permit. also he is a criminal. laws only apply to the law-abiding. think about it. a law won't magically get every criminal to hand over guns. or do you actually believe that happens when a law is passed?

Posted by: Amy on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:39 PM
There are strick guidelines in carrying a conceled permit. You are required to show that you know what you are doing with the fire arm as well as having a really good reason on why you need one. Most that do carry the conceled permits are experts on using them. Thus, can use them in public situations with-out causing much damage. Please read through the requirements on what needs to happen to carry the permit before screaming about the law.

Posted by: Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:37 PM
This is not about guns. This is about an abandoned teen who was taken in by a family in bellevue. All these incidents involving teens point to a much deeper problem. The truth will soon come out and I hope we can learn from this. God Bless the families affected by this tragedy.

Posted by: Debbie on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:36 PM
My heart goes out to everyone involved! My heart goes out to the mother of the shooter, as a mother myself I could not live with myself knowing that I raised such evil. God Bless Omaha and the USA!

Posted by: Laura on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:36 PM
All I want to say, I guess, is please let every one of us thank God for every day of our lives. You never know. I lost a loved one in the bridge collapse in Minneapolis last Summer, and you Just. Never. Know. Also, please give your babies an extra hug tonight. This crazy world isn't showing any sign of slowing down any time soon, and it will be up to them to save it. The families of these innocent victims will always be in my prayers.

Posted by: Vaughn Beasley on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:34 PM
Omaha is/has and always will be "home". Rest in peace to the victims of this senseless act. Thoughts and prayers are with you and your families. This is not a time for critcism, make it a time for prayer.

Posted by: big daddy ridez on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:33 PM
are thoughts and prayers go out to the families that have lost ther loved ones in todays shootings. My the folks that lost their lives rest in peace. sincerly,Big Daddy Ridez.

Posted by: Judy on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:31 PM
GOD BE WITH ALL OF OMAHA, AT THIS TRAGIC TIME. NEEDLESS ACTS OF KILLING AFFECT EVERYONE IN EVERY STATE. KNOW WE CARE......

Posted by: pati on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:30 PM
The same thing happened like this last year the day before Christmas in a South Florida mall. This world is getting crazier every day.. God help us..to be safe in such a destuctive world..!! God bless the victims families and loved ones. Its Christmas..why cant people be at Peace??? Its sooo sad..!!

Posted by: Dave on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:29 PM
I am from Omaha and this does not suprise me at all. There is to much violence there and that is one reason that i chose to leave and go to a safer community. These "kids" now just really don't realize what they are doing!!! Life means nothing to must young adults and noone really cares about that atleast that is what i have seen. My heartfelt prayers go out to all of those who were affect include the gunmans family. GUNS KIDS=DEATH!! Live life to the fullest and remember there are alot of people that have it worse than you.

Posted by: Bill on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:29 PM
The "trained professionals" are off doing other things. If the shooter knew an average citizen might take him out, he'd go somewhere else. Stop taking guns out of the hands of responsible citizens, leaving only criminals with them. They are criminals - laws don't apply to them. If you had a chance to hide - would you hide behind the person with a weapon, or hide behind someone without one?

Posted by: Cally on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:27 PM
The "Teddy Bear Shooter" He must have been a troubled young man.

Posted by: eldon on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:26 PM
If we spent 1/6th of the money we spend in Iraq on health care including services for psychiatric disease, we could reduce things like this here - as well as the injuries we are causing there!

Posted by: Dan on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:26 PM
Tragic event, thoughts and prayers to the families. Hats off to the Omaha Police who according to reports did not hesitate to enter Von Maur to search for the shooter. They obviously knew the urgency of the situation and immediately acted and put their lives on the line as they rushed into the crime area without regards to the danger.

Posted by: jaimie on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:25 PM
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR ALL THOSE FAMILYS THAT HAS LOST A LOVED ONE AND MY HEART AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO YOU ALL.

Posted by: anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:24 PM
OMG another story about a shooting... either the person that signed the concealed guns thing is a complete 1d10t or some people just cant suicide by themselves and have to take some innocent people with them.....................

Posted by: c on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:24 PM
It's the lack of parenting, and the condition of our schools that would let a 19 year old fall through the cracks.

Posted by: monique on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:24 PM
That is so sad to hear, what is the world coming to. We can tell these are the last days of the world, everyone must give their life to the Lord, so we all may go to heaven when God returns.

Posted by: Todd on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:23 PM
This is why all teenagers should have mandatory monitoring 24/7. Teens are the ones that cause most of the issues, just look at the News! Parents should be responsible for the actions of the teens, in this case the kids parents should be tried for murder, as they raised a murderer. It is all teens and bad parents. Don't allow teens to drive. Don't allow teens to be in public in groups larger then 3. You do this, and you will have a reduction in crime in Omaha.

Posted by: Omahan on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:22 PM
Don't fool yourself into believing that politics were not involved in today's tragic events. If funding for State Mental Health Institutions were not cut, people with serious, mental health issues would have a place to seek and receive the help that they desperately need instead of being abandoned and forced to live in a society that is incompetent in dealing with them. We cannot continue to rely on private hospitals to treat mental illness. This is a condition that demands more than outpatient treatment. These people are serious threats to themselves and now, for obvious reasons, to society. They need to be institutionalized when it’s required, where they can be monitored and receive the level of care they need. This epidemic of the ill walking among us has to be addressed. It is a large contributor to the crime rate in this state. I hope we remember this come voting time.

Posted by: Brast Carrington on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:21 PM
To everyone that is saying i dont feel safe in Omaha anymore, you must be so blind to the world because Omaha is not the only place that things like this happen. Tragedies happen all over the United States and the world and we have to learn to live and deal with it. Posted by: Jessica Location: La Vista WOW!!! Omaha is not the same nomore since the frist time i came its was nice a quite it everywhere u went...now shooting at the mall thats just crazy i come from a big city NEW YORK and this hasnt even happen at the malls down there ive since so many thing but not like this one its just so crazy how people can take someones else life...hopefully the police will get everything fingured out...AND FOR THE FAMILIES THAT GOT AFFECTED MY PRAYERS ARE FOR YOU and the works at the mall my prayers are for you why is everyone debating gun laws - a 19 yr old just walked into the mall & shot at people shopping. He was suicidal & this was his way of saying the hell

Posted by: concerned on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:20 PM
I have seen so many posts about ..."if only some 'law abiding' citizen with a concealed weapon permit had a gun, this would not have happened". BALONEY!! Add people with concealed weapons to the chaos of the situation, how does one distinguish the 'law abiding' citizen firing his/her concealed weapon from the perpetrator? Yes, the perp had a rifle which is easy to identify, but not all perpetrators carry a rifles. THINK ABOUT THIS PEOPLE!! Criminals will get their hands on whatever tools they can and will do so at any cost, regardless of what laws are in place. They (criminals) are very selfish individuals and don't care about how their actions affect others. This young person was a selfish coward!

Posted by: =(] on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:19 PM
wtf! he could have taken himself out only. buy n000000000 he just has to open fire in a mall. sheesh

Posted by: R. W. Johnson on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:18 PM
We have a problem Omaha, religious groups hate the devil, political parties base their campaigns on hate, the military hates the insurgents, candidates hate each other. The population hates Clinton, Bush.. take your choice. Now we are learning to hate Hillary. You can't have a good, agressive campaign without a generous measure of hate. Don't make any difference what or who, just hate as a rallying cry. Now, what do you expect?

Posted by: Amber Gesa on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:17 PM
I just saw your report on t.v. and im glad that this didnt become more than what it did. I was terrified when the siren went past my school because i was worried about the ppl in the ambulance. At that time i didnt know what was going on and now i wish that that had never happened wahhh. i wasnt sure if anyone i knew was in the mall at that time and i prayed that they werent dead.

Posted by: wandering65 on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:17 PM
those who are harping about gun laws....they are not going to stop people like this from getting a gun. It's more of a pain in the tush for those of us who are honest people. I understand that there needs to be some type of control but I guarantee it will NOT stop people such as this....common sense DUH!

Posted by: Andrea on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:17 PM
I agree with Hayley; have a little sympathy and consideration for the victims and their families and take your debate elsewhere. My heart goes out to all the victims and their loved ones.

Posted by: Delancey on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:16 PM
Out of town on business when I saw the news...this is so very sad. I am very sorry for all the families who lost loved ones. What was the purpose of this...it is beyond belief that someone who is suicidal would feel it necessary to kill innocent people. I am in shock...

Posted by: Allison on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:13 PM
I go to that mall frequesntly and this is a true tragedy. Please stop making this a debate and keep the families and departed ones in your thoughts. Let's start being a bit more sensitive people.

Posted by: holley* on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:12 PM
this kind of tragedy really scares me! I was at work right down the street and to hear this makes me nervous to even go places. You think you are safe in crowded places but your just not anymore!

Posted by: Amanda on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:12 PM
I am sadened by such a selfish thing that man did!!!! How unfare for the deffensless people he murdered...AND FOR WHAT!! To the victims and the murdered you and your families are in my thoughts and prayers!!!

Posted by: Kent on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:10 PM
This is exactly the reason that the concealed carry law in Nebraska should be strengthened and the licensed people legally carrying handguns allowed in the mall. Had I been there in JC Penney when he "walked through" the entrance doors with an UNCONCEALED RIFLE as per the JCPenney employee witness, he would have gotten no farther, I can assure you. Absolutely nuts to think that banning guns is the answer.

Posted by: Shannon on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:09 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. Enough about the gun control garbage...think about the families and what they have to deal with instead of raising a political debate.

Posted by: c on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:09 PM
To everyone that is saying i dont feel safe in Omaha anymore, you must be so blind to the world because Omaha is not the only place that things like this happen. Tragedies happen all over the United States and the world and we have to learn to live and deal with it.

Posted by: Jessica on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:06 PM
WOW!!! Omaha is not the same nomore since the frist time i came its was nice a quite it everywhere u went...now shooting at the mall thats just crazy i come from a big city NEW YORK and this hasnt even happen at the malls down there ive since so many thing but not like this one its just so crazy how people can take someones else life...hopefully the police will get everything fingured out...AND FOR THE FAMILIES THAT GOT AFFECTED MY PRAYERS ARE FOR YOU and the works at the mall my prayers are for you

Posted by: Silra on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:05 PM
why is everyone debating gun laws - a 19 yr old just walked into the mall & shot at people shopping. He was suicidal & this was his way of saying the hell with everyone & instead of taking just his life - he took 9 lives if not more - he was a coward for his actions. If he wanted to kill himself he should of done it - but without taking innocent lives with him. Where were his parents - why did no one notice the signs of suicide???? Instead of debating we should be mourning the loss of innocent lives - taken out by this senseless tragedy...

Posted by: Michelle on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:05 PM
I am horrified by this... There is such despair and hopelessness in parts of this city and nothing's being done about it. We've crippled our mental health systems and their ability to treat those in need. We seem to rely on reactionary systems rather than preventative proactive methods of dealing with disturbed people. Arming other citizens who don't know how to shoot would simply have meant more people dead. Plus, who would have been able to determine who the primary shooter was? Concealed weapons for citizens is stupid-- we need a viable mental health and drug treatment system in place to help these people BEFORE they take up arms against the rest of us.

Posted by: Liz on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:04 PM
Having lived in Omaha for 3 years while my husband was in law school, we lived at 94th and Dodge - a block away from the mall. We loved Omaha and it will always have a special place in our hearts. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the families of all those affected.

Posted by: Rick on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:04 PM
What a loser to pin this on George Bush and take this sad opportunity to go back and rehash an imagined and fabricated lie about cheating in the elections. You are what is wrong with polital discourse today.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:04 PM
lets get real the people who do this type of thing are the ones to blame not laws. i have been trained on many different types of weapons however being of good sense even if i carried a consealed weapon i wouldn't shoot in a crowded store. think more people would have the chance of being injured or killed. as for the parents of the people that do these, some of the parents do their best but kids, no matter the age, rarely listen to their parents because they think they no more. how many of us out there listened to everything we were told. yes some parents need to do more but not all of them. people like this are not always easy to spot until it happens. lets get things right and actually be more concerned with the victims and their families

Posted by: To all the Idiots on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:02 PM
This could have happened anywhere..anytime...to anyone. This has nothing to do with Bush being in town..he had already left. None of you know what happened or why...let it go and just keep watching the news because it is obvious that you are so bored that you have to blog in with a bunch of misinformed comments...like there are more than two confirmed dead...try nine on for size with five others injured. Freak accurances like this happen all the time all over the world and this just happened to happen at the Westroads. If more people were allowed to carry guns legally a lot o these problems honestly would not occur! But at least the President was safe.

Posted by: Barb on Dec 5, 2007 at 05:00 PM
Everyone please read MARK's exerpt! Screw the gun law right now...8 innocent lives have been lost. I hope all of your families are accounted for if that is all you can think about. Gun control...it wouldn't matter anyway. Criminals usually don't follow the rules!!! Thanks Mark for caring about innocent people! I am just sick about this!

Posted by: Matt on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:59 PM
God bless omaha

Posted by: Todd on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:59 PM
No gun laws or lack of a gun laws is going to matter to someone who is determined to carry out such an incident as this one.

Posted by: Dan on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:59 PM
After living in Omaha for over 22 years, THANK GOD we don't live in here anymore. The worst that happens down here on a DAILY basis is a minor robbery. No murders and killings lead the headlines every day. Our are sincerely sorry for the victims and their families.

Posted by: Tab on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:58 PM
The real trajedy is the fact that this kid said he was "going out in style". Not only has he taken the lives of innocent people, he has left the guilt of what he has done with his parents. All of these families that he has affected, is horrible. The people in the mall were not suicidal, they were shopping and getting ready for the holidays. What this kid has done is sick and selfish.

Posted by: Dan on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:57 PM
Concealed weapons? So the scene could have turned into a shootout and possibly more people could get killed? If everyone could carry a gun around this would turn into the wild west. At the slightest sign of trouble you would see four guys reachin' for their pistols to try and be a hero. All shootings like this are all kids who have something wrong with them. Do you think that they went to Wal-Mart to buy their guns? Martha- How in the hell can you bring up an election from almost 8 years ago? My thoughts are with all the families, it is horrible that someone who thought he had nothing to live for took so much life from people who wanted to live it.

Posted by: Ben on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:55 PM
All of you concealed guns proponemts, Whose to say your concealed weapons "heroes" wouldn't shoot the wrong person, or other people running away? Leave the guns to the trained professionals. If you have a concealed weapon, you're looking for something or someone to shoot. You better get a good lawyer and have deep pockets because if you shoot someone with your concealed gun, you're going to trial and probably jail as is the guy who is commiting the crime intially. Thoughts and prayers to the victims here. Focus on them, not the shooter.

Posted by: Lauren on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:54 PM
okay were talking about a kid who was 19 I don't think he had a legal license...and thats beside the point..there were 8 victims who woke up today not knowing it would be the last day they would do that. My thoughts and prayers go out to all who lost a loved one...and for those of you who are blaming Bush, thats just kind of stupid, we don't know what this kid was thinking and since he was 19 I doubt he made this choice based on what Bush thought

Posted by: Mike on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:52 PM
While it is justifiable to look for political solutions to today's tragedy, I think all sides would do well to understand that insanity can only partially be legislated against. A comprehensive reform of mental health care in the state and the country should be the primary target of our scrutiny instead of tired debates about gun control. Events such as this mall shooting deserve to be looked at first and foremost as a human tragedy that will never have any precise cause and effect solution (if only there were armed citizens..., if only Bush wasn't in town.., etc). Let's approach this situation with care and reason as opposed to knee jerk hostilities against guns, anti-gun laws and the city of Omaha.

Posted by: bev on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:51 PM
why would anybody come to a public place and hurt a person let alone 15! if you are so sick of your life and absolutely have to end it do it at home.

Posted by: Rev. James on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:51 PM
What a horrible event that happened today here in Omaha, our thoughts and prayers are with the familys of those involved. When you get off work tonight, go home and hug your husband or wife and kids, be thankfull everyday, take nothing for granted!

Posted by: Anne on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:51 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the innocent victims. It makes me angry when the shooter takes their own life, it's gutless. They have the guts to gun down innocent people, however, they don't stick around to face the consequences of their actions. I sincerely hope he rots in hell!

Posted by: Amy on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:51 PM
Two words: Metal Detector!!

Posted by: chris on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:51 PM
My heart goes out to the families and friends of all the victims. God bless you all of you.

Posted by: jOE on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:51 PM
IF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE CARRYING CONCEALLED WEAPONS STARTED TO PULL THIER GUNS WHAT KIND OF A MESS WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN? HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED? GET REAL! PEOPLE FRANTIC AND SCARED WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT TARGETS. MORE GUNS WOULD HAVE BEEN DISASTEROUS.

Posted by: dan on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:51 PM
It's really sad what happened here today. I think the impact for all of us will be the encroachment to our freedom of peace wherever we go in the city. We all remember that it's not a big city phenomenon as events like it have happened all over the State in recent years such as the killings at the bank in Norfolk. What's worse is reading the comments listed here below about the removal of guns as the ultimate answer. I suppose these same people would assume that we should remove cars and motorcycles too because they kill people? How ridiculous. 911 was the wake up call to us all that we live in a sophisticated society and with it good and bad. The only solution will be more controlled access by policing authorities into our daily life and the airport is one such result. Are you ready? And where will it end?

Posted by: JR on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:50 PM
My thoughts and prayers to all the victims and their families. I'm so sorry to hear that this has happened.

Posted by: Theresa on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:49 PM
I lived in Bellevue for 17 years, recently left, and I never would have thought Omaha would be on national news for something so tragic. My heart goes out to all those traumatized. I realize if I were still at home, I could easily have been at that mall. I hope any one affected by this is able to come through it all.

Posted by: Jake on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:48 PM
This is very sad, I am all for guns and arming citizens. But lets not turn this into a political debate about guns. People were murdered and people lost their loved ones.

Posted by: Dean on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:47 PM
More or differant gunlaws would not change what happend here. The people who commit these crimes would not do anything differant because of a "gun law", murder has always been against the law and it still happens, perhaps someone with a concld gun could have changed the outcome however with the malls policy that same person whould not have carried thier gun in. Bottom line this is a tragedy for many people and I fail to see how the fact our president was in town today could have played any roll in this. People go home tonight and hug your kids/parents and be happy everyone is home safe.

Posted by: Jerrod on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:47 PM
KC- Answer this...how are you going to get rid of all the guns? And who and what kinda of people would be the last ones with them. Please, use some logic before you turn this into an event about gun control. You can make fire arms and bombs, you can't stop the crazies...

Posted by: Colin on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:45 PM
This has nothing to due with gun laws or who is allowed to purchase a gun legally or illegally. About 59.1 million adults in the United States personally own a gun. In 1993-4, roughly 93 million adults, or 49% of the adult U.S. population, lived in households with guns. There is no national gun register in the USA, so it is impossible to know exactly how many guns are in circulation or who has them, but the FBI estimates there are more than 200 million guns in civilian hands. Americans are a different breed. Violence will always be present in this country. Face it we are a violent people. We shoot people in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places everyday, why does it come as a surprise that people shoot each other here? Wake up Omaha, violence is real and it is all around. Now the soccer moms in West O will have something else to complain about than the price of Hannah Montana tickets!

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:44 PM
I'm from Omaha, but now live in Colorado. It sadly reminds me of when I heard about Columbine (I was going to UNL at the time). Such useless violence, and for what?

Posted by: Hayley on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:44 PM
It disgusts me that you people turn this into a debate over concealed weapons. That's not the cause of the problems in the world. Why don't you all just take a second and do something HONORABLE like empathize with the families of these poor, innocent victims. What if that was your son, daughter, mom, dad? Would you be arguing about concealed weapons then? It is so disgusting that we have to place blame on something. We just have to immediately place blame or else it wouldn't be ok. Well, let me tell you, for those families, it will never be ok. Stop blaming. Have some respect. True, honorable respect. Do something today that might stop a crazy gunman from going into a department store... Don't cut the guy off on the drive home...don't cut down that coworker...make someone feel good for god's sake. Ugh.

Posted by: ed on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:44 PM
This guy would not have a tally like this down here. Properly used, guns preserve and protect. And like anything else,they can be abused. So,if one person had a concealed pistol, he/she could have stopped this madman. A law abiding concealed pistol owner probably could have prevented the massacre at Va.Tech, also. May the victims be w/God now and may He have mercy on that madman's soul.

Posted by: chuck on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:44 PM
I think that instead of trying to find someone to blame for this tragedy, everyone should come together and show some support for these families who have deceased or injured loved ones as a result of this mess. It's definitely not the time to debate gun control.

Posted by: Rosie on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:44 PM
Instead of talking about gun laws, manufacturers, etc. Get to the root of the problem. Thanks to the welfare system, expect more of the same. They're coming of age now. Where do you think the criminals are coming from? Two parent families with a stay-at-home parent? get real.

Posted by: Ryan on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:42 PM
Fahey has lost control... IMPEACH HIM NOW!

Posted by: Anthony on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:41 PM
My heart goes out to everyone at the mall today, and my prayers go out to the victims of the shooting.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:40 PM
I highly doubt a 19 year old who leaves a note saying 'Im going out in style' is smart enough to coincide his suicide with the visit of the President. Besides that, according to Bush's schedule, he was leaving Epply @ 1pm. I'm guessing another anguished teen who 'has nothing to live for'. He was 19, hadn't even started to live yet. Another tragedy with innocent victims because of one child's selfishness.

Posted by: Susan on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:40 PM
Seems like we are forgeting something...Our hearts, prayers and tears are now with the 9 families that have now had their lives changed forever. The right to bare arms seems to be a secondary thought at this time.

Posted by: confused on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:40 PM
Martha Williams: seriously? George Bush is to blame for this? COME ON. George Bush did not put a rifle in the hands of a 19 year old kid and make him open fire in a mall at Christmas time. It is what it is, I agree with you on that point, but seriously.......COME ON. God Bless the victims and the families of the deceased.

Posted by: Elyzabeth on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:39 PM
This is a tragedy cause by a very disturbed man!!! It has nothing to do with the President as some may think!! The man was obviously sick and needed help. So keep the politics out of it, Martha!!!! I pray for the victims and their families!!!

Posted by: Brad on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:37 PM
I think my new years resolution is going to be a concealed weapon permit and a gun. I don't ever want to be a in a situation like this and not be able to protect myself efficiently.

Posted by: RW on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:37 PM
How awful! My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families.

Posted by: Nathan on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:37 PM
I'm not sure what's more disgusting, the shooting or the left-wingers and right-wingers trying to politicize this tragic event. Save the gun control talk for bar rooms, please. People died today and what should be first and foremost on our mind are the families and friends of the victims.

Posted by: Jed on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:34 PM
Terrell... The police, and security guards are under NO OBLIGATION to protect you. They cannot be held responsible for failing to protect you. Will they maybe try? I'd expect police officers to try.. but an unarmed mall security guard? Are you content on waiting a few minutes for a cop to arrive to protect you, while a gunman is heading your way? I'm not. The supreme court has ruled that that police are not personal body guards, and cannot be held responsible for failing to protect anyone. If you think a cop at the other end of the mall, will protect you 300 feet away when a gunman is heading toward you, you are sadly mistaken. Each and every one of you have the right to protect your life, with deadly force if need be. Why do you fail to understand that? Sometimes, sadly, it comes down to that.

Posted by: alicia on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:34 PM
God Bless those souls that were tragically taken from us today and god guide those families who have lost a loved one. this truly is a tragedy that was very unexpected. Only love and unity will get us thru this tragedy. God bless and protect those families and our city!!

Posted by: Rickless on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:34 PM
Martha Williams, that is the most ignorant thing anyone can say. Quit blaming Bush for all the problems of this country. This is not the result of his visit. This is the result of one person. Your comment is one of the most idiotic I have read on this topic and you should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking this. Quit hating.

Posted by: Gary on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:33 PM
To: Martha Williams; It is dumb to speculate that this has anything to do with Bush's visit. What do you base your beliefs? Makes as much sense as saying that the shooting has to do with the cold weather. It is obvious that you hate Bush and will find anything to make him look bad.

Posted by: Trish on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:33 PM
Wow now we need to metal detecters in the malls ...What is going on with the way people think ... our world is just not what it use to be .I will pray for the familys of all those who are in this

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:30 PM
How did no one see a man walk to the 3rd floor of a shopping mall with a riffle? That's not an easy thing to just hide. People need to open their eyes a bit.

Posted by: Katie on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:30 PM
I am disgusted with Martha's comments regaurding Bush. How childish and tacky that you can turn any horrible tragedy to fault George Bush. If this was about our President why wouldn't the shooter gone out to where Bush was? High security? Than why not shoot up the mall whilst Bush was here to at least get his statment across? Right now we need to pray for the victims family and stick together to begin the healing process not blindly blame outside sources. This is going to take a long time to recover from and things are definately going to have to change but they aren't going to change if we keep simple minds like the one you have.

Posted by: Ken on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:30 PM
Just pray and be thankful

Posted by: Amy on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:29 PM
I used to work in that Mall and was there over the Thanksgiving holiday. With Southroads mall that closed down, working there you saw an increase in Gang territorial disputes. Even found gang writing in one of the fitting rooms. How does everyone know that the shooter was a KID? It could have been an employment or domestic dispute. We won't know until all the facts are in. Also, I thought there was an Omaha Police dispatch at the mall - located where the old Yonkers used to be.

Posted by: Joe on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:28 PM
Martha I can not believe you are that stupid! This was a 19 yr old. He probably did not know that Bush was in Nebraska! Quit trying to blame everything on Bush. Things happen because peiople are crazy!!!

Posted by: Tammy on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:28 PM
I am tired of people blaming parents for everything. A parent can't even disipline their children anymore without them calling the police for child abuse. I know of children skipping school, sneaking out of the house, stealing vehicles, running away and nothing is done to them. The schools don't abide by truency laws, police won't charge them and the parents can dicipline. These kids have no respect for anyone and no one makes them accountable for their actions. It needs to go back to the time when kids had respect for their parents and the law. You didn't see these things happening in the 70's and 80's . We feared our parents and the law becasue we knew we would be accountable for out actions.

Posted by: Sarah on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:28 PM
All of you people who are saying anything else other than having thoughts and prayers for these people who's families don't even know they're dead yet make me sick, This is not happening so that people have something to debate about this is real life and people have DIED get it through you head have some respect! My thoughts are with all of those affected personally and as well as the rest of our community all of us will be affected by this in some way. My prayers are also with all of you people who would rather argue on here than be good citizens and give your thoughts and prayers may God bless your souls!

Posted by: Maricela on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:27 PM
y did those murdris person killd all those pleople it just dosent make sence. and y did he kill himself it is like a suiside mission just like 911

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:27 PM
I dont know why every one is talking about concealed weapons laws, and carrying guns when people have died! This is a horrible tragedy that laws and gun control could never have stopped. For one moment, can people not bring politics into the picture with an issue!

Posted by: MK on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:27 PM
This is why businesses should not be able to put up no concealed weapons signs with the exception of banks and federal buildings. Law abiding citizens cannot even protect themselves because the mall thinks it has everything under control. Leave the gun laws alone. A crazy nut job did this not a law abiding citizen!

Posted by: Truth on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:26 PM
it seems to me that the more we have laws allowing guns to be carried by any and everyone means that more guns will be manufactured by greedy corporations which means that more guns will be available to the bad guys - the ones that rob the law abiding citizens that have a permit to carry them. I have a hard time believing that's the right answer. Why is there no regulation on all these corporations that are manufacturing guns/weapons? Seems like that's the place to start... That being said, I'm deeply saddened by this tragedy & my prayers go out to everyone affected by this nightmare.

Posted by: terrell on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:26 PM
Jed Location: North Platte umm. jed what are you talking about? mall security guards, and police, their job is to protect and serve.... i just want to say my heart goes out to these people, and their family's.

Posted by: Jennifer on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:26 PM
Martha, are you seriously going to turn this tragedy into a political event? For God's sake, people have been murdered and you are trying to blame the President. When does personal accountability come into play. The shooter is to blame for his actions and people have lost husbands, wives, children, parents and friends as a result. It is devastatingly sad to think someone can value life so little. My prayers and deepest sympathies go out to the families and the victims that witnessed this massacre.

Posted by: KC on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:25 PM
Answer this question? How many shootings would there be if there were zero guns? Arming civilians with guns is not the answer.

Posted by: Kenneth on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:25 PM
I am all for concealed carry. The police only arrive to clean up the mess (and unless someone is shot, they don't come at all). I fail to see the value of unarmed mall "security". Our mayor is more worried about spending money on bridges to nowhere and new baseball stadiums than trying to fix what is wrong with Omaha. Even our city council members want to reduce public safety so they can spend more money to make a Omaha a playground for the wealthy. Our sewers back up when it rains. It is only a matter of time before the whole city is one ghetto. This was not a matter of "if", it was simply a matter of "when".

Posted by: Alan on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:24 PM
I have been trying to get a concealed license but as far as I know they have not issued them yet. I'm prior millitary and am a highly trained and decorated crackshot. If I were there with my licence just one shot to the trigger hand or elbow could have ended it before anyone was shot but the perp. I'm glad we are giving the public a chance to stand up for themselves but it was too late this time.

Posted by: John on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:24 PM
Do you honestly think that this shooter has a concealed carry permit? Some facts to consider: I sincerely doubt that this was a legally purchased firearm; nationwide, 99.8% of firearms and 99.6% of handguns will not be involved in a criminal activity in any given year (NRA-ILA). Nearly 80% of people convicted of a gun-related crime used firearms that were illegally obtained. Our national murder rate (latest data, as of 2004) is at a 39-year low. Nearly twice as many people die in a given year due to automobile accidents than in firearm related deaths. States that have a concealed carry law have on average a 31% lower homicide rate than those states that do not. There are over 2.1 million self-protection reported uses of firearms in the US every year- significantly more than the number of violent crime gun uses reported. So, this being said- do you actually think that taking away licensed firearms is going to prevent violence? Please research topics prior to reacting emotionally.

Posted by: steve on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:23 PM
guns=death

Posted by: Katie on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:23 PM
I'm very sad to see this happen. I'm also glad that nobody took it upon themselves to pull out a concealed weapon (or 10) and shoot at this guy -- without proper training, good aim and clear thinking, average citizens in an emergency situation like this could potentially injure or kill even more innocent bystanders.

Posted by: Sarah on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:22 PM
This individual clearly didn't possess the forethought to obtain a license to conceal and carry. Personally, I wish there were more licensed carriers out there that had good judgement and could have taken control of the situation, maybe saved a couple of innocent lives. But if there were, that person would have been prosecuted for violating the law against carrying in a posted restricted area. No good deed goes unpunished! Its horrible that there aren't any safe places for our children to go. Are the guards at the mall armed? And if not, WHY NOT?

Posted by: mark on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:22 PM
What surprises me most after reading the posts on this sight is the fact that people are more worried about debating concealed weapons rather than the tradgy of families that have lost loved ones due to a senseless act of violence.

Posted by: Jed on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:20 PM
WOW!! C?? Protecting yourself and your loved ones with a gun, makes you as bad as the person who started the shooting of innocent people? That's an amazing statement, honestly. To think that you have the right to keep and bear arms, to defend your life.. to say that it's bad for someone to do so? I can't believe someone just said that. I feel sorry for your loved ones, having such a spineless person who wishes to never try and protect their lives.

Posted by: M on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:20 PM
How many of us do you think would actually take this guy down when it comes to it, whether we had concealed handguns or not? I'd like to think I would have the courage to go out there, but I know that's not the case. I would be just as scared as anyone else and be hiding in the dressing rooms like everyone else. Blanketing this situation under the fact that we don't have concealed firearms and if we did it wouldn't have happened is simply not possible. I'm not going to go into whether it would cause more problems than it solves, but it definetly wouldn't have fixed this alone.

Posted by: Kathy on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:19 PM
And the Mayor says crime is down in Omaha. Tell that to the families who lost loved ones today. I think we need some "West Coast" Offense training in our local political and law enforcement agencies. My prayers go with the families of the dead and wounded and all who experienced trauma in this massacre.

Posted by: Brent on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:18 PM
JJJ, The guys that do this are looking for a high body count that is why they choose weapon free zones (Schools, post offices, college campus) If we cant have citizens with guns in these locations then we need to have police officers in each store and school. Being a violent crime survivor I can tell you first hand that when a man has a gun to your head and wants to kill you the only way to stop him is with deadly force. However its easy for all of us to say what we would or should have done. It sounds like this is a situation where there was little time to react. Your best chance may have been running and making yourself a moving target. We all need to pray for the people impacted by this shooting. I used to live in Omaha and have family that live by this mall. This hits close to home.

Posted by: Lisa on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:18 PM
Then the supposed shooter turns the gun on himself. The easy way out - hell has a new customer.

Posted by: M on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:18 PM
Why?!

Posted by: GNP on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:17 PM
Welcome to the real world

Posted by: KC on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:16 PM
Yeah, have everyone carry concealed weapons!! That makes a whole lot of sense!! Ever see how mad people get from Road Rage?? Including yourself?? What do think would happend if people with type of rage carried concealed?? Gee, I wonder how many gun violations, shootings, and deaths there would be then?? This argument just shows how stupid people really are. And that my friends is the real problem. Stupidity.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:16 PM
I was born in Omaha but been away since 1989. I still have a lot of family and friends living there. Everyone in Omaha is in our prayers. This just breaks my heart. What is the city doing to fix the violence in Omaha?

Posted by: Bob on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:14 PM
this has nothing to do with gun control laws, north o, or blame to anyone or anything except the shooter, just pray for victims and their families.

Posted by: Rita on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:14 PM
Are you kidding me? If you take away the right to bear arms the only people who will be armed are the criminals. Let the good men carry guns so we have a fighting chance. Places where people are allowed to carry firearms have MUCH lower crime rates - criminals aren't stupid - if they know they will encounter the same resistance and force, they are less likely to be so brave.

Posted by: Chris on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:10 PM
The majority of these comments are in favor of Conceled weapons. So why hasn't city council done anything about it yet? In my opinion, everyone should be trainned as a child how to safely use a hand gun.

Posted by: Ryan on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:10 PM
Banning firearms would solve nothing. Hand gernades are illegal and very, very diffucult to obtain. Yet one turned up at the same mall recently. I say by the end of the day this will somehow be blamed on W. Bush.

Posted by: mary on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:09 PM
i pray for all of those who were there the ones who made it and the ones who did not. and i pray for the families.may god bless you all. my sister was a manager at this von maur store thank god she quit when she had her baby or she would have been working.there is no one to blame except the shooter himself. this is NOT a race issue or guns issue its all about a person who went and killed these people . many of those killed were froends of my sister and she also sends her prayers to all of those who did not make it.

Posted by: Jed on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:08 PM
This guy had a rifle, something he wouldn't need a concealed weapons permit for in the first place. But honestly, think about this for a moment. Do you really think that if a person has, or doesn't have a permit, owns a gun legally or illegally.. that it will stop someone from doing something like this? You cannot stop someone from comitting a crime like this. I know many people who carry guns, every single one of them values life a lot. They do not wish to take a life, not even a bad persons life. But lets say that even 1 person out of all the people with permits, does something bad. Do you really think their permit caused them to do this? Do you think not having a permit would have kept them from doing it? Anyone, even YOU could choose to go arm someone right now, if you wanted to. No law, no policy can change that. YOU are responsible for your own security. You cannot rely on mall security guards, or police who are not around to protect you. It is not their job.

Posted by: Travis on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:06 PM
We just had a similar shooting here in Salt Lake. I am deeply sorry that Omaha is now going to have to deal with this. We do need to protect ourselves and our families. It is our right as Americans. Gun control will not stop this sort of attack.

Posted by: martha williams on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:04 PM
I believe this shooting has something to do with George Bush's visit to nebraska. Something he has cut is causing problems for people and someone took it out on innocent people. But it is what it is. I just wonder if Bush's people are going to cheat us out of another election?

Posted by: C on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:04 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the victims. But what scares me about these comments people are posting, when a comment comes up talking about carrying a concealed weapon and being able to fight back. That makes you just as bad as the person who started the shooting.

Posted by: Deb on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:03 PM
To Mike: Who gets to decide who is crazy and where are they going to go? The hospitals dont do anything to help people with mental illness.

Posted by: Derek on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:02 PM
First off, my deepest sympathy's to the families of the victims involved. Second, to all of those people that are against concealed weapons. I have one statistic to throw out at you. In the last 20 years exactly one person in the U.S. has been murdered by someone who had a concealed weapons permit. Do you know why? It is because it is pretty hard to get a concealed weapons permit. You first off have to have a reason to get one. You have to go through numerous background checks, and in many states you need to have a mental evaluation. So don't blame the gun, blame the person. There were 10,177 people killed with firearm in 2006 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_07.html) And that is a large number but more than 5 times that many people are killed by second hand smoke every year and people don't go around saying ban cigarettes. (http://www.no-smoke.org/getthefacts.php?id=13) So please do not give up the 2nd amendment due to a few people

Posted by: Tara on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:00 PM
I shop at Vonmaur all the time with my young kids.This could have been worst if school was out or even a weekend.My prayers are with everyone involved in this situation It's sad when you can't go to the mall without having to worry about being shot.I also heard 2 people died and for what? because some loser had nothing better to do than shoot up a mall.

Posted by: Steve on Dec 5, 2007 at 04:00 PM
My thoughts and prayers goes out to those affected. Why are we arguing about whether the concealed weapon law is bad when it is illegal to have a firearm in any department or mall? Who cares about the dang law when something this tragic happens?

Posted by: R on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:59 PM
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Armed citizens could have saved lives.

Posted by: Laura on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:59 PM
Let's be honest. Tougher gun laws will only be followed by law abiding citizens. Criminals find alternative ways to obtain guns. Do you really believe that this guy carried a gun because he had a concealed weapon permit?

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:59 PM
Westroads...I have gained a new found respect for the police. Just to be on the scene and not have a clue what or why this tragedy happened. My hats off to them.

Posted by: Miss V on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:57 PM
First, even if more strict gunlaws are passed, there is no guarantee said laws would actually be adhered to. This is insane. I work for an internet company...may I make a suggestion? Do your Christmas shopping online this year. I know I am. This is insanity, and a sad reflection of the times in which we are living.

Posted by: Jan on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:57 PM
I was just discussing with a friend today where I think the right to bare arms is obsolete. The less guns we have the less chance we have of being shot. Many guns that are in the hands of crazy people are guns that have been stolen from the good/sane people that supposedly got the guns to "protect" themselves.

Posted by: Kelsey on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:56 PM
yeah there was a grenande on friday by jc pennys - i feel so bad for these people. it could have easily been my family or friends. =(

Posted by: jjj on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:55 PM
you make millions of guns a year, they're gonna get in the wrong hands. for all you idiots out there - concealed weapons are not the answer - how many more innocent bystanders would be injured by a shootout between a crazed gunman and a pseudo trained civilian??

Posted by: Zack on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:54 PM
Watch, there will be a run on concealed weapons licenses. Personally I'm all for it. People who are going to go out and shoot other people obviously don't care about gun laws. I would rather have an armed public than sit back and watch things like this happen and spiral out of control.

Posted by: Jeff on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:53 PM
Take away the concealed gun permits? I will be VERY surprised if the shooter had a concealed firearm permit. If there had been any shoppers in the immediate area with a concealed firearm, they may have been able to end this situation BEFORE MULTIPLE people got shot. The key is GUN CONTROL, not gun elimination.

Posted by: Eric on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:53 PM
I am a former resident of the People's Republic of Omaha, and have never felt it was a safe town, north, south, east or west. The cops let criminals run free and hassle the innocent. It's become a "Little Chicago", and I do not desire to come back. Now people are going to blame the instruments, but the instrument is unable to kill people on its own. Guns are as responsible for death as spoons are for obesety. They are merely tools, and when used improperly any tool can be deadly. Cars kill far more people every year than guns, and are the leading cause of global warming, maybe we should ban them too! The perp is the one and only person at fault here. Pray for the families harmed by this tradgedy. They need your love and support far more than anyone needs your anger and resentment over laws, guns, drugs, cops, etc.

Posted by: Shila on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:52 PM
What is happening to our city? Not a day goes by without someone shooting someone... now you can't even go to the shopping mall. It goes to show you that it isn't only North Omaha with the problem - it is CITY wide!!!! When are we going to take control!!!

Posted by: Rebecca on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:52 PM
I would like to know the ages of these gunmen. I'm hoping they weren't teenagers, but if they were I think if they want to pretend to be adults & play with guns, they should be punished as adults.

Posted by: Gary on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:52 PM
My heart goes to the good people in Omaha on this. We had a mall shooting not long ago here in Salt Lake, with all the same things posted here. My thoughts and prayers are with you. This is tough for the entire community.

Posted by: Jenny on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:51 PM
One occurance of a shooting in west omaha does not alleviate all the shootings in North Omaha. Go by the statistics- they speak for themselves. Prayers go out to all the families who are dealing with this during the holiday. Hope whoever does this rots in hell.

Posted by: Harley on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:47 PM
Please do not turn this into some political gun law BS. Gun laws do NOTHING to keep guns out of criminals hands. It only makes it impossible for law abiding citizens to have them. Any gan banger or looney wants to get a gun, a silly law isn't going to prevent it.

Posted by: AJ on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:46 PM
Why blame firearms. Just because someone is not responsible with them should you blame them. Someone could have gone in there with a knife or a hammer or really anything and caused damage. I hate how one minded most people really are. There do not need to me MORE laws. That just hurts those that follow the law. Criminals can get a gun no matter...thats why they are criminals. There needs to be gun education in place. Back in the day this was common knowledge. People aren't taught things like this anymore because its not needed like it was back when. People think about more than yourself when you go jump on something. You could ruin someone elses life and lifestyle. While this is a horrible event, picture it if someone there was armed and properly trained was there in defence...a citizen. Events wouldn't have lasted as long as they would have. God bless.

Posted by: Omahane on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:45 PM
This is the exact type of scenario as to why people SHOULD carry concealed weapons for the lawful purpose of self defense. Can you imagine being there with your family & seeing people get shot, and you could be next? And you have nothing to protect yourself with? When you are seconds from danger, 911 is only minutes away.

Posted by: Sally on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:45 PM
We had just left the mall when this happened. I'm so thankful we left when we did! My prayers go out to all those involved and to the shooters family, who will soon learn what their loved one has done.

Posted by: USA on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:45 PM
It is our 9/11

Posted by: LAE on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:44 PM
It is time that people start to realize that Omaha, just like all cities in this country, has a problem. The question is how can it be stopped...what can anyone do to end the violence. How could a person walk into a mall with a rifle and not be noticed by someone...anyone. It is time that people start to be aware of their surroundings and actually report something that appears to be "unusual". Too many people are afraid to report unusual events thinking that someone will laugh at them or that they will get someone who is innocent in trouble. Better that there are false alarms than people being shot in a shopping mall. Be aware of your surroundings has always been the number one rule.

Posted by: Lindsay on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:44 PM
When you are questioning motive, you have to think of where they were in the store. Since the shooter was down in customer services, they might have not gotten a job, or been fired from a job, or had a bad sales representatives. I just have to say that thank the Lord that this wasn't a repeat of VT. 2 people is two too many to die, but it is a HUGE stretch better than the 37 that died at VT. Hopefully the man in surgery at UNMC will come out all right, but for now, we need to thank God that no one else was seriously injured.

Posted by: m on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:44 PM
This is a terrible trajedy, but there is not reason to hold the mall or omaha responsible. There are just bad people in the world. It happens other cities as well. My prayers are with the victims and families that are involved. And a special thanks to the brave law enforcement and paramedics who risked their lives to save the shoppers.

Posted by: Mike Berney on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:43 PM
Does it really matter where the shootings occur? West O, North O, South O??? It don't matter!People are peple. What is causing all the violence EVERYWHERE is what matters. It has got to be stopped. Stop putting the blame on a certain part of the city. It happens EVERYWHERE! It is not even safe to go out and shop anymore. People are so strung out on drugs they can't handle the every day situations of life. I believe drugs are the main culprit of the high violence rate. Also, just because a store has an emblem banning concealed weapons, is not going to stop someone from bringing a weapon into a store or anywhere else. There has got to be stricter gun laws and they MUST be enforced! The penalties for carrying a concealed weapon without a permit must be stricter with MANDATORY prison time. If a juvenile commits a crime with a weapon, no chance of the juvenile being tried in juvenile courts. Do a adult crime, be tried in adult court and do the adult jail time! Let him cry behind bars.

Posted by: Suzanne on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:43 PM
Praying for the victims, their families, and for the emergency personnel involved in this situation

Posted by: Reality on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:43 PM
This is certainly a tragedy, but it's only surprising this doesn't happen more often with psycho's out there. You wonder what will come out about the shooter, but with the shooting at Von Maur, you wonder if it is someone mad against the world of wealth and excess. Still a psycho and not justified, but only time will tell.

Posted by: BlessOmaha on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:43 PM
Start by loving your family more and loving your friends more so that they will have love.

Posted by: T on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:42 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to those involved in todays tragedy. This can happen anywhere and it does daily...sadly it has now affected Omaha directly. Wasnt there a grenade found in the parking lot of Westroads earlier this week, or late last week?

Posted by: Jim on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:42 PM
passiing more gunlaws only means badguys will be the only ones carrying guns...doesnt sound to smart to me

Posted by: Jess on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:40 PM
I pray that we catch the gunmen, and I pray for those injured in this incident. It is too bad this this had to happen.

Posted by: Mo on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:39 PM
This just goes to show that no one, no place is exempt from danger. Even more draconian gun laws will not prevent something like this from happening again. Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people. It is everyone's responsibility to ensure their own safety. My heart goes out to those people who suffered this terrible tragedy.

Posted by: brian on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:38 PM
Society as a whole is changing, parents are to busy to pay attention to there kids lives or take them to church or get to know them. then these things happen, because they are not around to know their child is having problems and until society starts reverting back to how family situations were 50 years ago this will continue to happen. God Bless

Posted by: MJ on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:38 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to all innocent victims there.

Posted by: Precious on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:36 PM
Once again some of you are making this a race issue. It is a human issue and we all need to come together, and support one another. Crime is does not about color, creed, or religion. I pray for the families that are going through this tragedy. Also I pray that Omaha as a city will come together, North, East, South, West and surronding suburbs. We have to protect our families, and we can protect the children who don't have the parenting skills that are needing today to raise a good child.

Posted by: Sarah on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:36 PM
I wish that some law-abbiding citizen had been carrying a concealed weapon to stop the maddness. This has nothing to do with gun laws, they aren't attaining these weapons legally anyways. Tragic happenings, my hearts go out to the victims and their families....On another note, those of you sitting on 93rd and Dodge heading east? When an ambulence is trying to get past...move out of the way! I am appalled watching over and over the ambulence trying to get past and no one moving.

Posted by: B on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:36 PM
Wow... Omaha has some real news for once. Stuff like this seems to happen all over - not just in urban centers or ghetto neighborhoods. I've experienced more crime in small cities and the burbs than I did living in bed stuy brooklyn. Its very unfortunate. Our prayers go out to the injured and their families.

Posted by: Jackie on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:34 PM
What is this world coming to?

Posted by: Rick on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:34 PM
Gun laws do not take the gun out of peoples hands, this person(s) would still have this gun if guns were outlawed. Gun laws just take the guns out of law abiding peoples hands.

Posted by: Ryan on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:32 PM
Ok, we better go through this again: Murder is illegal. Banning concealed carry (which is probably already banned at the mall) or firearms in general would only prevent law abiding citizens from carrying weapons. People who want to kill others are already planning to commit the ultimate crime. They will not decide against it just because carrying a gun is illegal. The real problem is that there aren't enough legally armed and trained civilians in the general population. This could have been stopped.

Posted by: Evan on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:32 PM
Gun laws wont stop these things and its a very very sad tragedy

Posted by: Dave on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:32 PM
Im sure this guy didnt posses a concealed weapon permit in which changing the gun laws would have had no impact on this situation, your ignorance is what is scary Kim

Posted by: R on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:31 PM
Taking away a concealed weapons permit isn't going to do anything to Omaha and this gun problem. If you take the time and think it out, all ILLEGAL activity is done by people who don't have a permit and who are being careless. Myself (a female) has a permit to carry a gun. I carry one for this reason if someone opens fire on me, I can protect myself.

Posted by: Amy on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:30 PM
I used to work down the hall from Von Maur, so I'm thanking God for my career change. This is very sad. The violence in Omaha has gotten way out of control. What is wrong with people?? Do they think taking other's lives is just one big game??!! God help us.

Posted by: Lisa on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:29 PM
I really don't believe stricter gun laws will stop the random idiots that walk into a mall and open fire randomly. Stricter gun laws would prevent the innocent law abiding citizens from protecting themselves in such a tragedy. My prayers go out to the families of the indiviuals who were involved.

Posted by: Jen on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:29 PM
Quote: "This is exactly why law abiding people should be able to carry concealed weapons in the mall." Are you kidding me? Do you think this kid was a "law abiding person" Come on, get real. Get off your high horse and realize we live in a different world. Maybe decades ago their was a need for the "right to bear arms" but those days have long since passed. As long as guns are available they are going to end up in the wrong hands. I am sure in your world, it would have been great to have 10 other people in this mall with hand guns shooting at random too. That would surely solve the problem.

Posted by: Mr. G on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:29 PM
What do you people want? Anytime government gets involved then the "Big Brother" watching becomes an issue. Carry a self self defense item is an issue but I carry mine anyway. Maybe look at yourself and what you choose to support. The movies and the environment we create causes these issues.

Posted by: Kim on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:28 PM
How do I explain to my young son what he witnessed in the parking lot of Westroads Mall? It's unexplainable. I am struggling as a parent here. This is something that will haunt him for him some time. Truly heartbreaking. My prayers and well wishes go out to all involved in this tragedy.

Posted by: Molly on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:27 PM
No one noticed a guy carrying around a rifle? A rifle is not easy to hide. Be aware of your surroundings. Be aware of your safetly always.

Posted by: Paul on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:27 PM
Anyone notice how these incidents always happen in locations where concealed weapons are prohibited. Wise up...allow the concealed weapons (w/ permit) and the idiots will have to think twice before going on a shooting rampage.

Posted by: Jed on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:27 PM
You can change laws, take away guns, it will not stop a bad person from doing this. Guess what? It's illegal to even build a pipe bomb... but someone can easily build a pipe bomb and use it in a mall. Good people should always have the right to defend themselves against nutjobs like this. Concealed weapons permits HAD NOTHING to do with this. Do you really think someone who wants to kill someone, needs a permit? A concealed weapons permit, IS NOT a permit to use your gun. Everyone says "guns won't protect you", but then you want to wait a few minutes for a cop to get there with a gun? What if you were with the group of people waiting in Old Navy, huddled in the back room? Wouldn't it be nice if a good person with a gun was able to stop a gunman, if he entered the store and started firing shots at innocent people? This is not about vigilantism.. it is about good people having the right to defend their life. The "no weapons" policy worked well, huh?

Posted by: heather on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:27 PM
How many of the idiots blaming concealed weapons laws for this ACTUALLY think the guy who shot HAD a license!!?? Grow some common sense people - the criminals do NOT license their guns!! *DUH!!!!!* I can't WAIT to move back home where common sense prevails over ignorance!

Posted by: BD on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:27 PM
Who was it that passed the concealed weapon law? What the hell were they thinking? Obviously, they weren't. Why can't these crazy people just take themselves out? They have to go and take innocent people with them. That's NUTS!! When is "enough is enough"? Obviously someone forgot their meds this morning.

Posted by: Sam on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:26 PM
When the "traditional base" was taken out of our schools we started seeing things like this. What criteria is there for right and wrong when that base is no longer allowed? My thoughts and prayers go out to all involved in this.

Posted by: student on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:26 PM
I can beleive this happened in Omaha!

Posted by: Nick on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:26 PM
Kim...Take away concealed weapon permits??? You think this guy said... "hmm.. I better go get a concealed weapon permit so I can go shoot some people..."? NO! It's people like this that prove we need the laws that allow law abiding citizens to legally carry.

Posted by: Devin on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:25 PM
I one of the 5 people that were shot had a weapon, this would not have happened. Besides you cant have a concealed weapon in the mall. So no one with a permit would not have been allowed in the mall.

Posted by: Jon on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:25 PM
The solution is not fewer guns. Fewer guns is already our problem: only the nuts carry guns. I would feel safer if there were more good citizens (proficient and safe) carrying concealed weapons.

Posted by: Karen on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:25 PM
Restricting law abiding citizens from their 2nd amendment rights will only increase crimes. Criminals can't get a concealment licence so more than likely the person who did the shoting had criminal background and would have shot regards of the un-needed gun laws for LAW abinding citizens

Posted by: Mary on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:24 PM
We are NOT safe. This is the new reality. We had better get used to it and learn to protect ourselves.

Posted by: Jane on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:23 PM
Tolerance my fanny, Jodi - innocent people were wounded and killed today. Lawbreakers forfeit any "privilege" of tolerance they were hoping to claim the second they committed their crime. If the fellow found with the self-inflicted gunshot would is found to be one of the suspects, that degenerate is a filthy coward in the purest sense of the word. He had the bravery to take out his wrath on total strangers, but not the bravery to face the punishment of his crime? And if the other two suspects are found to be involved, may justice come down on them like a Mack truck. To the first-responders, mall workers, customers, and all the families affected by this horrific tragedy, may God bring comfort to your troubled hearts during this time.

Posted by: Rebecca on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:23 PM
This is EXCATLY why I want to get out of Omaha as soon as I can.

Posted by: L on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:23 PM
A terrible tragedy. May all involved find comfort in prayer.

Posted by: B on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:22 PM
All you people are just stupid! This has NOTHING to do with guns, it has everything to do with nut jobs that lose it! Might this be someone that recently lost a job at Von Maur? Instead of all this crap your all saying how about some prayers for the people and families

Posted by: brian on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:22 PM
You can have all of the gun laws you want. They will not stop the people that want to use guns to kill. What would you do stop making cars because some one ran ove a child? Guns are just machinary. they dont shoot people, people shoot people.

Posted by: Omahan on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:22 PM
Westroads is probably going to get sued. Especially that they infringed on your right to protect yourself with a CCW. Hopefully they do get sued and change the policy to let law abiding citizens have the option to protect themselves. If they had allowed CCW maybe this guy could have been stopped.

Posted by: Jean on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:22 PM
This is horrible, what kind of a world do we live in? This is the reason that there needs to be more control of certain things, guns being a big one. We are so lucky that this was not more tragic than it was - THANK GOD for our law enforcement and rescue workers who have practiced for situations like this and who responded so quickly. We really need to look at these things, if for no other reason than for our children's sake!! This cannot happen again!!

Posted by: trish on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:21 PM
uh, hello, people. i seriously doubt whoever did this took the time and effort to apply for a concealed weapon permit. get a clue! there have only been a handful of people requesting these permits. these thugs more than likely bought their guns illegally off the street. we need better gun control laws, yes, but don't go blaming the concealed weapon law.

Posted by: Sandy on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:20 PM
I work here the Westroads and we are all on pins and needles. Where are the parents!!! It is time to stop blaming others.

Posted by: Katie on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:20 PM
What a terrible tragedy-it is safe to even go to the mall anymore. My thought go out to all the victims and their families.

Posted by: Fed Up on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:19 PM
Bring back public executions: hanging, stoning, etc.

Posted by: wake up on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:19 PM
gun laws don't not keep criminals from getting guns. if they want a gun they well get one no matter how many laws you pass.

Posted by: Jessi on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:18 PM
This is absolutely horrible.

Posted by: steve on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:18 PM
Criminals will always have access to guns. Making them illigal isn't going to do anything. If someone is going to go on a rampage and kill people I don't think they are going to worry about getting a gun charge. Get a clue people. Restrictive gun laws only hinder law abiding people.

Posted by: Sherry on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:18 PM
No matter what the laws, criminals will always be able to get guns. It is ridiculous for people to think that stricter gun laws will prohibit such random awful acts of violence.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:18 PM
guns do not kill people do and if people would speak up when they see someone doing something wrong maybe we will not have all this killing

Posted by: Chris on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:15 PM
To Cathy and any other person who is going to say gun laws need to be changed - WAKE UP. Gun laws have become much more strict over the past 10 to 15 years and it has had practically no affect on the amount of violent crime. If a person is naturally violent, they will find a means to act out their violent tendancies. Gun control laws or not.

Posted by: Concerned on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:14 PM
All you have to do is be in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is cruel and unfair to those who work hard for what they have. It seems people have no regard for others and everything is about self and Omaha is turning into the wild west. I end by saying this...People grab hold tight of your children and model and encourage them to make decisions that are beneficial to themselves and others. This has got to stop.

Posted by: Concerned on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:14 PM
Who was the moron that passed the concealed weapons law anyway? Gee, how stupid do you have to be or what has to happen first before they take their head out of you know where. Maybe that individual should have a sit down chat with the families that have been affected by today's shooting. Are we really safe anywhere? The answer to that is no. Why couldn't the individual who carried out the shootings just stay home and take his anger out on himself? Instead of innocent people.

Posted by: Zach on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:14 PM
never thought something like this would hit home. hopefully everyone will be ok

Posted by: C on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:14 PM
When are stores and malls going to get rid of minimum wage, rent-a-cop and provide real armed security in these stores?

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:14 PM
To Kim in Omaha: How would revoking concealed weapons do anything to prevent someone with a rifle slung over their shoulder from carrying this out?

Posted by: T on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:14 PM
It is not a matter of changing gun laws. Most shootings involve stolen guns. The people commiting these crimes are not "outstanding citizens" and are not registering their guns to go out and shoot people. My prayers go out to the innocent victims involved and their families and friends who are effected by terrible event.

Posted by: 2ndAmendment on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:13 PM
Cathy, the only ignorance posted so far is...YOURS. The gun control laws only keep the honest people honest. Criminals who possess (possibly steal), carry, and use firearms illegally would do so with even the most restrictive laws and punishments in place. I'd like to hear public opinion of OPD's overwhelming response. Thanks to all in public service!

Posted by: Brian on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:13 PM
Im sure this person paid full attention to the gun laws!!! This was a criminal, they dont care about the laws!! The type of people that do things like this, dont care what or how many laws are in place. To think that another law would have avoided this tragedy is the IGNORANCE!! Thank you OPD for your quick responce and profesionalism.

Posted by: Rob on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:12 PM
Gun Laws don't need changing. People to who don't register their weapons will still carry unregistered weapons. The vast majority of gun owners are responsible people.

Posted by: Lindsey on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:12 PM
So, basically they went to the mall with guns, and decided to kill people..? I'm so sick of people trying to solve their own issues by doing that dumb stuff. I definatly hope somebody gets caught. That's so wrong..

Posted by: J on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:11 PM
Gunmen that murder innocent people are not deterred by gun laws. They do not register their guns, they steal them. Creating new laws that only stop good, law abiding individuals from protecting themselves is not the answer.

Posted by: B on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:11 PM
Makes you wonder what happens with people, this time of the year, is supposed to be shared with family and friends rejoicing at life, not burying your aunt who was going to get little Jimmy a new Nike sweatshirt on sale a Von Maur! Makes me sick. Why...why do people do these things? Who does these things? Thank God for Firefighters and Paramedics, The police were very quick to react! Way to go Omaha, we at least know how to deal with tragic situations and how to take care of our own!!! God Bless the injured, and the families of the dead!

Posted by: Me on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:10 PM
Well with ideas like yours cathy many others will. Guns will always exist legal or not and criminals will always have the ability to get them. Why cut off the rights for law abiding citizens.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:10 PM
My uncle was working in the mall when this happened and this is a very tragic thing. You can't go anywhere anymore. And it's not just Omaha. It can happen anywhere.

Posted by: Kim on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:09 PM
This is a terrible tragedy. WE must pass more gun laws and take away the concealed weapons permits. Guns are no good, no good at all! Stop the violence!!!! My thoughts and prayers go out to all of those involved!!!

Posted by: courtney on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:09 PM
The shooting is very heart breaking. I hope that these horrible people get death penalty if their caught.

Posted by: Mike on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:08 PM
This is why we need to get rid of all crazy people!

Posted by: Cathy on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:03 PM
At what point will people realize that gun laws need to be changed. How many more people must be victims of this ignorance.

Posted by: Jack on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:01 PM
Oh no!

Posted by: jake on Dec 5, 2007 at 03:00 PM
Makes me want to get a concealed weapons permit and fight back against scum bags that do this.

Posted by: Jodi on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:56 PM
Prayers out to all those involved. Love one another. Demonstrate tolerance.

Posted by: CS on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:53 PM
Another psychopath roaming the streets freely and hurting innocent people when he/she should probably be locked in a rubber room somewhere...

Posted by: L on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:52 PM
Tragic News

Posted by: Jed on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:50 PM
I use to live in Omaha, near this mall and I went there often. This just goes to show that the malls "NO WEAPONS" policy provides a false sense of security. This is exactly why law abiding people should be able to carry concealed weapons in the mall. It doesn't matter who it is. Any single person can snap. But 99% of the time, good people will not just snap. But do you really think a "no guns" sign will stop them anyways? You can't stop it from happening, and I'd rather have the 99% of the good people carrying a gun who pose no threat to innocent people. My condolences go out to the victims of this tragic situation. But we all need to rethink what the differences between true safety, and false safety is.

Posted by: sabrena on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:49 PM
i was at oakview mall a month ago and my new truck was stolen in a hour and a half. and now people are being shot shopping! what is happening to omaha? i don't feel safe there any more.

Posted by: lincmercguy on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:49 PM
Westroads mall has posted that it does not allow concealed carry on their premises just in case anyone missed it.

Posted by: Friend on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:48 PM
Please--some of us lived through Club 89 30 years ago. This HAS happened in Omaha before. It will be a long road ahead for anyone who was there.

Posted by: Christa on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:46 PM
This is insane! Malls are supposed to be a safe place! I remember hanging out there all the time after school! This goes to shows that no matter where you are in omaha...shots can still be fired..its not just north omaha that has to deal with shootings...Omaha as a whole needs to make this madness stop!

Posted by: mike on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:45 PM
God Bless those that have been hurt

Posted by: Jennifer on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:44 PM
My prayers go out to all of the people involved.

Posted by: Suzee on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:41 PM
My heart pours out to those caught up in this tragic incident. Just when we think that something like this can't happen to us...it does. I hope they catch who did this and give them the death penalty!

Posted by: rebecca on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:39 PM
See it is not always in north omaha where the shooting happen. I thik this proves a point north omaha is not bad

Posted by: D on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:37 PM
Now we can't even feel safe at the mall for holiday shopping. How did this young man get a rifle into the mall? No doubt he's in the process of turning his life around. When they catch him..let him turn around in a cell and call it "life."

Posted by: NEALO on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:34 PM
NO ONE CAN BLAME SHOOTINGS IN NORTH O ANYMORE BECAUSE ITS EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT OMAHA. THE CITY NEEDS HELP AND IM A 16 YEAR OLD TEEN SAYING THIS

Posted by: G on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:32 PM
Here we go again. Now if I cant even go to Von Maur!!!! I'm going to invest in a bullet proof vest to do my shopping now. First we had to worry about getting stabbed up in Walmart now we have to wear armor to go to the mall

Posted by: BillyBob on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:32 PM
It'd been nice if somebody there had the concealed carry permit. But then again, you aren't supposed to take your weapon into the malls if they have a sign or not. Anybody know if they do ?

Posted by: tammy on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:30 PM
What is wrong with people now days. Nothing is that bad that you need to go to the mall and open fire on innocent people. Everyone is someones family, please remember that.

Posted by: Typical on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:30 PM
Can I be the first to say what I'm sure will be on the comments? "Uh, where's the parents" and "Wow, Omaha used to be such a safe town" or perhaps "Hey West Omaha, it isn't just North Omaha with shootings" later....

Posted by: Frensichu on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:24 PM
Alright, I'm going to get straight to the point. WHERE are the PARENTS!??? Whoever committed this act, PUT these THUGS in JAIL!!

Posted by: Carolann on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:22 PM
Oh wow thanks so much for the text message of the shooting im at school and the minute i got the text message i got onto ur home page and was watching what was happening.. i was planin on going shopping there tonight too! i wont be anymore.. thats just strange how it happens the same day as president bush comes to town.. werid.. i just hope everyones ok! my prays go out to the familys!

Posted by: Kevin on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:19 PM
Good god, what is wrong with people? I read all these articles about Hip Hop and the bar scene and all its problems. Now someone has done this in a store? Who do we blame this one on? Hey I have an answer, instead of the bar owner, the store owner, the gun manufacturer, the music, how bout we blame the whack job that brought a gun out to shoot people.......

Posted by: Drew on Dec 5, 2007 at 02:15 PM
Here we go again...concealed weapons?

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